just because conservatives blindly supported a billionaire who doesn't know what he's doing doesn't mean liberals are gonna do the same thing.
that CEO can kick rocks. and here we go again with people hyping a third(purgatory) party candidate that everyone knows won't win.
America is such a pathetic hellscape that we can no longer operate as a nation without a billionaire telling us what we need to do. That billionaire just so happens to run a coffee company who had a company day off to remind employees not to call police on black people. We're so sad.
Is there a reason why you hate rich people or billionaires so much? Just wondering nearly every single politician is rich. If they have that much money there is a chance that they know how to get things done and are somewhat successful. Are you against people becoming successful?
What's your issue? I'm not following. Why do you bring up race and social status in almost every one of your posts? Just asking.
everybody on this board agrees that we have way too much big money in politics. so i dunno why its "hate rich people" when it comes to this aspect of politics.
you can't complain about politicians being corporate puppets, then turn around and support the puppet master.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
just because conservatives blindly supported a billionaire who doesn't know what he's doing doesn't mean liberals are gonna do the same thing.
that CEO can kick rocks. and here we go again with people hyping a third(purgatory) party candidate that everyone knows won't win.
America is such a pathetic hellscape that we can no longer operate as a nation without a billionaire telling us what we need to do. That billionaire just so happens to run a coffee company who had a company day off to remind employees not to call police on black people. We're so sad.
Is there a reason why you hate rich people or billionaires so much? Just wondering nearly every single politician is rich. If they have that much money there is a chance that they know how to get things done and are somewhat successful. Are you against people becoming successful?
What's your issue? I'm not following. Why do you bring up race and social status in almost every one of your posts? Just asking.
I don't hate rich people or billionaires. But I'm not a fan of the violence used to accumulate that wealth. Pretty much every single politician is bad and the wealth they amass comes directly from their inability to their job properly. I want people to be successful unlike you. You want a few people to be successful and you want that to be predicated on their birth and a little bit of hard work.
The reason why I cannot respect neocons is exactly spelled out in your post. Republicans today don't support capitalism or democracy, they support state corporatism, where corporations extend beyond their financial role into a political overseer. They want this because it provides a fast track to allocate our nation's resources. They're such consumers that they forgot what actual production looks like.
Well everything you stated about republican view points is completely wrong which doesn't surprise me. I could tell you what I think of the current democratic party but you probably already know.
You and Swish seem to have a problem where you make broad sweeping generalizations, be it a person or event. You both need to work on that.
Well everything you stated about republican view points is completely wrong which doesn't surprise me. I could tell you what I think of the current democratic party but you probably already know.
You and Swish seem to have a problem where you make broad sweeping generalizations, be it a person or event. You both need to work on that.
I'm not a Democrat. I've written that about 8 times in the past week. Look, you're chock-full of broad generalizations that have no basis in reality. 10 minutes ago you said the New Yorker wasn't credible. Get a grip on reality and stop letting your own narrative lead you in life.
Well everything you stated about republican view points is completely wrong which doesn't surprise me. I could tell you what I think of the current democratic party but you probably already know.
You and Swish seem to have a problem where you make broad sweeping generalizations, be it a person or event. You both need to work on that.
It's fine to say that, or even think that. But then those pesky facts get in the way.
Tillerson was the CEO of Exxon. The wealth of his cabinet members is staggering. Education Secretary-nominee Betsy DeVos ($5 billion), Commerce Secretary-nominee Wilbur Ross ($2.5 billion) and Small Business Administrator-nominee Linda McMahon ($1.6 billion).
From big banking, you know, the people we had to bailout? Mnuchin, following in his father’s footsteps, cut his deal-making teeth at Goldman. White House strategist Steve Bannon put in his time there, and the designated director of the National Economic Council, Gary Cohn, was long considered to be the next CEO at the investment bank.
Hey, at least you can't call this generalizations.
Point being, Trump has helped to place big money, big business and big banks in charge of a lot of our government and the facts, not accusations, bear that out.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
Yep and when this happens you have leaders that are so disconnected that they think you can go to the store and get groceries loaned to you while you work out the financial bumps... WTH?
So then you know what millions of people stand for at an individual level? When I talk about republican viewpoints I'm including everyone in the whole country that could support the party.
Well everything you stated about republican view points is completely wrong which doesn't surprise me. I could tell you what I think of the current democratic party but you probably already know.
You and Swish seem to have a problem where you make broad sweeping generalizations, be it a person or event. You both need to work on that.
I'm not a Democrat. I've written that about 8 times in the past week. Look, you're chock-full of broad generalizations that have no basis in reality. 10 minutes ago you said the New Yorker wasn't credible. Get a grip on reality and stop letting your own narrative lead you in life.
Get the heck outta here with the you're no a democrat. What are you then? A socialist, a communist?
So then you know what millions of people stand for at an individual level? When I talk about republican viewpoints I'm including everyone in the whole country that could support the party.
Since poles indicate that 86% of Republicans back and support Trump and he is the current leader of the Republican party, that the facts speak for themselves.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
1. That's not mathematically possible for polls to give an accurate opinion of political viewpoints of all. Polls commonly limited by sample size, who is asking the questions, and error\bias rate. Which poll are you referencing, who did it, which people were sampled?
2. I fully support the president of the United States as should all of you. If the president fails then your country goes down with him.
3. Apparently you've never heard of someone identifying with a majority party even though they don't agree with them on every single viewpoint. Nearly everyone I know is this way, most likely including yourself. I've met very few people who agree with their own party on everything. This is a flaw in the current two party system because both parties are moving more and more extreme. Personally I'd like an independent or libertarian to win the presidential election.
Yet they voted for him. What more do Republicans have to do until you admit they support Trump? Hoping a president succeeds doesn't mean you support them as a politician and agree with their platform. There's a difference.
Let's go one step further. McConnell wouldn't even bring a bill to vote before the senate unless he knew Trump would sign it for over a month. Where was the outrage from Republicans?
When you sit idley by and say nothing, vote for and stay silent on issues, your support is evident. When the leader of the majority of the senate refuses to bring anything to the floor unless he knows the president will sign it and you sit by and say nothing, you're supporting it.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
save it. you didnt show this level of support for obama, so everyone here is well aware that you're full of it right now.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Well everything you stated about republican view points is completely wrong which doesn't surprise me. I could tell you what I think of the current democratic party but you probably already know.
You and Swish seem to have a problem where you make broad sweeping generalizations, be it a person or event. You both need to work on that.
I'm not a Democrat. I've written that about 8 times in the past week. Look, you're chock-full of broad generalizations that have no basis in reality. 10 minutes ago you said the New Yorker wasn't credible. Get a grip on reality and stop letting your own narrative lead you in life.
Get the heck outta here with the you're no a democrat. What are you then? A socialist, a communist?
2. I fully support the president of the United States as should all of you. If the president fails then your country goes down with him.
This is such nonsense. Typically, especially in cases like with Trump, the country does better once the failing President is out of office. The US didn't fail when Nixon went down, we failed because of Nixon. The same can be applied to Trump.
This is just a general response because I could not read through 7 pages of the cons vs libs drivel.
SO let me throw this out there because as a Republican turned Libertarian I am not sure how I feel on this. But Libertarian Bill Weld is going to run in the Repub primaries. While I like the fact that maybe this is the only way to get the Libertarian agenda in the door, in a way I feel kind of like we are selling out.
So my two choices, as of right now would be Rand Paul or Bill WEld, either of those two guys could bring me back to the Republican Party. I want the Neo Nazis, white supremacists, White nationals, or whatever is the term 0f the hour gone from my party. I want to get back to what the Repub party is supposed to be about , and these individuals have destroyed that.
You may be in the drivers seat but God is holding the map. #GMSTRONG
There's more people like you out there than some would care to admit.
I'm never going to agree with either party on every issue. But bringing back at least an ounce of respect to the Republican party is certainly a step in the right direction.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
I'm curious to know who the Democrat Party would prefer to go up against. I don't consider Trump in a position to win re-election, although the recent news as of late and media bias continues to push people away from progressive agendas.
That said, Bill Weld is, for the most part, an unknown to many voters and it could look like, if he were to win a primary, that the Republicans are more divided than originally thought, had a knee-jerk reaction to a Libertarian candidate because of Trump's antics, and went against the grain of keeping with their party preference for a re-election term.
Just thinking out loud at this point.
At DT, context and meaning are a scarecrow kicking at moving goalposts.
I'm curious to know who the Democrat Party would prefer to go up against. I don't consider Trump in a position to win re-election, although the recent news as of late and media bias continues to push people away from progressive agendas.
That said, Bill Weld is, for the most part, an unknown to many voters and it could look like, if he were to win a primary, that the Republicans are more divided than originally thought, had a knee-jerk reaction to a Libertarian candidate because of Trump's antics, and went against the grain of keeping with their party preference for a re-election term.
Just thinking out loud at this point.
Based on how the last election played out - I think it's totally wrong for anyone to think Trump is out of it. I spent a year before the last election saying Trump was un-electable. . . . a month before the election and seeing how putrid Clinton's campaign was, the harm Comey did and then driving through rural OH and IN and seeing tons of 'Trump' banners in front yards together with NO Clinton support on display I started to change my mind. Never say never - the opposition HAS to step up and stand for something and appeal to the middle ground.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
This is just a general response because I could not read through 7 pages of the cons vs libs drivel.
SO let me throw this out there because as a Republican turned Libertarian I am not sure how I feel on this. But Libertarian Bill Weld is going to run in the Repub primaries. While I like the fact that maybe this is the only way to get the Libertarian agenda in the door, in a way I feel kind of like we are selling out.
So my two choices, as of right now would be Rand Paul or Bill WEld, either of those two guys could bring me back to the Republican Party. I want the Neo Nazis, white supremacists, White nationals, or whatever is the term 0f the hour gone from my party. I want to get back to what the Repub party is supposed to be about , and these individuals have destroyed that.
This is just a general response because I could not read through 7 pages of the cons vs libs drivel.
SO let me throw this out there because as a Republican turned Libertarian I am not sure how I feel on this. But Libertarian Bill Weld is going to run in the Repub primaries. While I like the fact that maybe this is the only way to get the Libertarian agenda in the door, in a way I feel kind of like we are selling out.
So my two choices, as of right now would be Rand Paul or Bill WEld, either of those two guys could bring me back to the Republican Party. I want the Neo Nazis, white supremacists, White nationals, or whatever is the term 0f the hour gone from my party. I want to get back to what the Repub party is supposed to be about , and these individuals have destroyed that.
Rand Paul please.
That's who I was pulling for in the 2016 election because he aligns closest to all of my views. Unfortunately he wasn't the nominee.
2020 I am either voting for Rand Paul, Howard Schultz, Donald Trump, or Ross Perot.
That said, Bill Weld is, for the most part, an unknown to many voters and it could look like, if he were to win a primary, that the Republicans are more divided than originally thought, had a knee-jerk reaction to a Libertarian candidate because of Trump's antics,
Bill Weld is a career Republican, his tenure as Governor of Mass was as a Republican, he is just another guy who saw the party losing their damn mind
You may be in the drivers seat but God is holding the map. #GMSTRONG
That said, Bill Weld is, for the most part, an unknown to many voters and it could look like, if he were to win a primary, that the Republicans are more divided than originally thought, had a knee-jerk reaction to a Libertarian candidate because of Trump's antics,
Bill Weld is a career Republican, his tenure as Governor of Mass was as a Republican, he is just another guy who saw the party losing their damn mind
Well he's got that going for him at least. That's a big positive.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
Not sure he will be my candidate this time around or not, but he is why the left is more left now!
Medicare for all! Education! Infrastructure! Criminal Justice/Prison Reform! Green New Deal! Addressing Income Inequality!
And more things good for the average Joe! No more Billionaire looking out for Billionaires. No more traitor selling us out to the highest bidder and destroying our world standing.
Read something that sounded like a compromise maybe Kloboucher? Free community college...that would be something a lot of people would flip on.
When junior gets free college that his parents pay for with high taxes, who really benefits? Is it really free?
Of course it's not actually free, nothing is. However baseline education for people without the means would improve our country not hurt it. The money pouring out overseas is NOT America first, Educating our own IS America first.
The artificial inflation of college is directly correlated to government backed loans....You go bankrupt....too bad so sad, the government won't forgive you on those loans. If we aren't going to expose these college to significant losses by exposing them to the reality that people cannot repay them for essentially defrauding teenagers then something has to give.
We are talking about state run colleges worth BILLIONS with a B.
Read something that sounded like a compromise maybe Kloboucher? Free community college...that would be something a lot of people would flip on.
When junior gets free college that his parents pay for with high taxes, who really benefits? Is it really free?
Of course it's not actually free, nothing is. However baseline education for people without the means would improve our country not hurt it. The money pouring out overseas is NOT America first, Educating our own IS America first.
The artificial inflation of college is directly correlated to government backed loans....You go bankrupt....too bad so sad, the government won't forgive you on those loans. If we aren't going to expose these college to significant losses by exposing them to the reality that people cannot repay them for essentially defrauding teenagers then something has to give.
We are talking about state run colleges worth BILLIONS with a B.
Education is a good thing. I see your point on out of control costs. We also agree free education ain't free.
We have free community college in Tennessee with a Republican governor and a Republican legislature. 66% of the state voted for Trump. Sometimes your empty rhetoric does not apply. Romneycare is another example.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
We have free community college in Tennessee with a Republican governor and a Republican legislature. 66% of the state voted for Trump. Sometimes your empty rhetoric does not apply. Romneycare is another example.
And who pays for your free education? You do, through higher taxes. Republicans or Democrats can provide free food too, if you pay for it.
