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I live in Toledo but I didn't see much Rocket football this year.

I understand he's 6ft. plus, ran a 4.4 at his pro day. Going to talk to my co-worker who is Mr. UT at the job. I'll be able to give his impression of Hollmman tomorrow.

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Can somebody start a thread listing all the guys we are bringing in. How many can we invite???

I know, I know why not me make the thread. Thought it deserved somebody in the know and have a list already.



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Sadly, I expect the team will be moving Duke, maybe by draft day.


I expect that we are moving him no later than Draft Day, but we're still stacked without him.

I think eotab guessed best with him potentially being a ST guy that can maybe be depth or possibly upgrade on Hilliard.

Still, I'm with Vers... unless we feel this guy is some rare hidden talent that will drop to the 4th round, I wouldn't drop a pick on ANY RB this year. Take that pick and package it with something else to move up and get someone we covet more at a position of greater need.


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To this point, every position where a player has been released, traded or simply not re-signed Dorsey has brought in reinforcements. Observable behavior, by Dorsey, is evidence that if Duke leaves the Browns he will be replaced. Hilliard is not that replacement. It would be criminal to have Hilliard as the primary number 2 back. How that RB comes on to the roster is uncertain.

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Can somebody start a thread listing all the guys we are bringing in. How many can we invite???

I know, I know why not me make the thread. Thought it deserved somebody in the know and have a list already.



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JT Hassell is a Shaquem Griffen clone (crazy athlete LB/S with a hand issue) from Florida Tech that we brought in for a visit.

Search "JT Hassell Highlights College part#2" on Youtube for a look, but may want to mute your speakers first.

https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2019/4/4/1...visit-on-friday


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Check out this profile on the DB prospect , Stephen Denmark dude got crazy measurables, looks fluid with size, speed and flips his hips. If he goes undrafted, I hope Dorsey makes a UDFA run at him. He might eliminate TE mismatches in our secondary.

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Check out this profile on the DB prospect , Stephen Denmark dude got crazy measurables, looks fluid with size, speed and flips his hips. If he goes undrafted, I hope Dorsey makes a UDFA run at him. He might eliminate TE mismatches in our secondary.


I mentioned him before somewhere.

May have been in the safeties thread.

Looks nice walking off the bus. Liked the bit of tape I saw, but it was pretty limited.


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Steeler Depot has a lot of profiles. There are several GIFs of Denmark there.

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Good information. Thank you.

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Several OT, lots of WR, even. Several LB and a ton of DBs.

Corrion Ballard is standing out to me because we met privately AND made him one of our 30. He and Jeffery Simmons are the only two I see with two meet ups, thus far. The two local guys will likely be late flyers or targets as UDFA.



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Fast, plays center field, and apparently likes to hit. Hard.

Probably a late round developmental guy; maybe even UDFA?


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Ty Johnson, Maryland might be an interesting late round/PFA running back/return specialist. Ran a high 4.3-low 4.4 40 at his pro day before pulling a hammy.

His highlights are a little underwhelming and you'd like to see him break more tackles, but he has that nice speed and good forward lean. Might surprise with a better OL in front of him. MD's offense was pretty misdirection oriented which somewhat left him the odd man out. Shows pretty good awareness in pass pro.

I've seen an Arian Foster comp.

Sidenote: Maryland's offense was pretty fun to watch before everyone got hurt. That Texas game was pretty wild.


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Darius Slayton, WR, Auburn might be a nice value. He has easy speed and acceleration and great start-stop quickness. The separation he typically got on comebacks was filthy. Auburn's QB play was awful and his numbers reflect that. Slayton did have some drops.

Might be worth a flier to see what he could do with an accurate QB, Henry coaching him up, and Kitchens scheming up plays. Has the speed that Dorsey seems to love.


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CBSSports has their new mock up, and they have us taking Slayton in the 4th.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news...very-selection/


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CBSSports has their new mock up, and they have us taking Slayton in the 4th.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news...very-selection/


Hadn't seen that. 4th round is the range I'd seen in general. Actually saw his name on playerprofiler.com when I was looking at WR target shares. Decided to check him out and watched some highlights and a couple game cutups. Stidham looked like he really regressed. Had happy feet and was tucking and running or wildly heaving it while not set far too often. Slayton was consistently getting open, though.

I'm not a big Layne fan. I get that he's a local kid, but don't fully get the hype. I won't be too upset if Dorsey likes him, though. I don't hate him, I just don't get excited about him, either.


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An honest question, not a criticism.

Why would the team spend any draft capital on a receiver? It's obviously the strongest unit on the team. It doesn't make sense to me. I'd rather add another edge player. Even TE would be an area that makes sense to bring a guy in to compete.

Different observation. I was looking at that visit chart and for some reason, I decided to look at the running back prospect, Darwin Thompson. I do think we move Duke Johson by draft night. This Thompson kid, he's different than Chubb or Hunt. Very intriguing prospect. In the mold of Sproles or Cohen. He would complement the backs we already have.

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He is not really a sleeper, but he has fallen off of the radar at least in the media ... He might be worth a late round pick.

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Anderson showed great talent during his time with the Sooners but could not finish a season due to injuries. He broke his leg in the second game of the 2015 season, running the ball just once for 5 yards. In the spring of 2016, he suffered a fractured vertebra, missing the upcoming season. Anderson was healthy throughout his redshirt sophomore campaign, ending the year strong by leading the FBS in yards from scrimmage over the final seven weeks (all starts). He ran for 1,161 yards and 13 touchdowns on 188 carries (6.2 average) and caught 17 passes for 281 yards (16.5 average) and five more scores in 14 games, garnering second-team All-Big 12 honors. His 26 carries for 201 yards and two touchdowns against Clemson in the national semi-finals caused scouts to expect a big 2018 from the Katy, Texas native. However, Anderson again fell to injury in the second game of the year, this time his right knee gave out after he rushed 11 times for 119 yards and three scores over those two contests.


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An honest question, not a criticism.

Why would the team spend any draft capital on a receiver? It's obviously the strongest unit on the team. It doesn't make sense to me. I'd rather add another edge player. Even TE would be an area that makes sense to bring a guy in to compete.

Different observation. I was looking at that visit chart and for some reason, I decided to look at the running back prospect, Darwin Thompson. I do think we move Duke Johson by draft night. This Thompson kid, he's different than Chubb or Hunt. Very intriguing prospect. In the mold of Sproles or Cohen. He would complement the backs we already have.


If we're getting an edge, I think we'd do it sooner.

Our receivers room is good, but injuries happen, and once you get to the 4th round you're looking for guys that may be undervalued. Auburns offense did Slayton few favors. Dorsey likes speed. Plus, I'm not sure who we'll have returning kicks.

It's nice to be able to give receivers running go routes rest as well.

I could see him as our 5th wideout pretty easily.

I'm not that strongly behind him. Just think he could possibly be good value where he's being projected and I hadn't heard about him before, so I figured a sleeper thread was a good spot to mention him.

I also think we don't have any glaring holes, so we can afford to really go BPA. If it happens to be a WR, so be it. If not, that's okay, too.

Darwin Thompson's highlights look impressive. Nice balance and power for a littler guy. Hurdles always worry me for some reason, though lol


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J/C - Loving the chat on this thread.

I'm not a huge fan of Justin Layne either - not saying he's not a good prospect by the way. He has the measurables and athletic ability but I don't think he's a fit for a zone scheme at this point. He's also likely to go in round 2 or 3.

If we do pick up a WR - there's lot of talent - then using one of the 5th rounders would seem fine if they are the BPA. Would we take a chance on someone like Preston Williams or look for a more dynamic slot type?

Chase Winovich is a guy I really like based on his play, his demeanour, his attitude. Maybe he goes to rounds 3 or 4?

As for a LB - Ben Burr-Kirven (Washington) looks like he could be a really good player and he *could* be that hybrid LB/S. He's slightly undersized but worth a mid round selection IMHO. Either he, Germaine Pratt (NC State) or David Long out of WVU I think would be really nice additions. Chase Hansen (Utah) is another SS/LB type.

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Thanks, you gave me some reasons I hadn't thought of before asking the question. Not a big deal but, I think the team could address those situations that you mention from within the group we have now. It wasn't my intent to knock Slayton don't know much about him, although I will look into him now.

LBs... there may be some viable late-round candidates that deserve a look. Tre Watson has been mentioned and I like his game. I think I read that he had 6 INTs last year which suggest that he would offer something in pass coverage. The other LB I'm interested in is getting graded all over the place. I don't know what to make of that. That player is Emeke (e-mek-key) Egule (egg-bul-lay) of Houston. I Like his range, plays fast. Shows up in run defense and against the pass.

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Thanks, you gave me some reasons I hadn't thought of before asking the question. Not a big deal but, I think the team could address those situations that you mention from within the group we have now. It wasn't my intent to knock Slayton don't know much about him, although I will look into him now.

LBs... there may be some viable late-round candidates that deserve a look. Tre Watson has been mentioned and I like his game. I think I read that he had 6 INTs last year which suggest that he would offer something in pass coverage. The other LB I'm interested in is getting graded all over the place. I don't know what to make of that. That player is Emeke (e-mek-key) Egule (egg-bul-lay) of Houston. I Like his range, plays fast. Shows up in run defense and against the pass.



Egbule looks interesting. Shows potential, but his ultimate value will depend on his "mental" growth. That's the part that's hard to predict without meeting the kid (sometimes still then). Athleticism and aggression show up, but lots of false steps and "bad"/non-ideal angles.

I like Watson, too. I think that high INT number is a bit of an abberation, though. A fair bit of being in the right time at the right place on tip drills, but he's not really dynamic in coverage. Being in the right place is valuable though. However, I don't think he's going to be used much outside of short zones and some to the flat. Wouldn't really want him manned up on a scat back, but that's true for most LBs. Has solid, not great, range, but I do really like his instincts.


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In the NFL draft there appears to me, to be such a drop off beyond the top 105-125 pick range, that there's simply no position, not even kicker, not even runningback, from your opinion, that I'd say should be left to not before the 6th or 7th round, at least in some years, as everytime they draft the team is in a different state of being with different strengths and needs.

forever. Except maybe I'd say never draft a kicker, but I could be swayed because ya never know, mostly I meant, it seems the old Browns never seemed to have a problem finding a good kicker without using a pick on one.
Runningback? I don't think can work that way.

I want Mike Weber anyways, so.


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