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Ok this is really an odd question.

My Brother lives in Pittsburgh and he mentioned the rumor around town is that Haden is on his way out.

I haven't payed any attention to Joe except when we play them and wasn't exactly overwhelmed with his play.

Did I miss something, is he playing well? if so, is he someone that would make a good fit here again for the second time? Again, just asking

I live in Pittsburgh and I have not heard that. Joe is by far their best CB, in a secondary that is limited by talent.

I see no reason why they would get rid of their Best CB, when the #2 CB was benched 2 or 3 times throughout the year.

They will probably restructure his contract. If not he might be cut, they are going to be in a bind because of the Antonio Brown situation.

Haden will make $10 million in salary this year. I thought he played OK last year, but probably not $10 million good, His cap hit for 2019 would be almost $12 million, with a dead cap of only slightly less than $2 million if cut.

I don't know that we'll be interested in Haden if he should become available, or that he would want to come back.

Oh, that's what my Brother said,, something about his contract being too much... Restructure or trade or cut?

He left Cleveland because he didn't want to restructure his contract... so we'll see what happens, I guess.

Sounds like maybe Haden breeds dysfunction. They weren't a dysfunctional franchise before he arrived...

I wouldn't mind him coming home, I have a Color Rush jersey of his that I bought a week after the trade (it was $20-25). I were that more often than my original style jerseys.

Not sure why you'd quote me, but ok... nothing new here.

Would love to have joe back but don't see it happening... met him a few years ago and he seemed like a solid guy... good cb which is hard to find... if he's cut he'll find a home fast...

Have we ever cut/traded/let someone go to free agency, and then they come back?

Highly doubt it happens. Personally, Haden could never be counted on to make the big play when we needed it. I think we're better without him.

Have we? No. Have teams that are competent, with a history of having good players? Yes.

I'd rather get to the playoffs before we give Haden his goodbye tour. But as far as I'm concerned, Josh Cribbs, Joe Haden and Joe Thomas are the first three Browns players since the return (I'd count Phil, but #kickersaren'tpeople), I would love to see him out of the black and yellow and back into the brown and orange.

I would love to see Haden back, he gave us his all during the dark times. I would love to see him back when we are a playoff caliber team.

No Cleveland athlete during my lifetime has shown the city more love than Joe Haden. He played at a pro bowl level, when other players were quitting on the team. He was court side at Cavs games, when we had LBJ and when we had Dion. Dude adopted this city exactly like a Star should and he should always be honored by the Browns and the city. I cannot speak highly enough of the dude, and he's extremely nice in person, always willing to take a photo with a fan. My friend got a picture with him last year at Momocho. I really hope he plays for the Browns again, sometime soon. While I don't think he'll get cut by the Steelers this year, I hope he goes to free agency next year.

We SASHI’d that one .... just like King John SASHI’d cutting Kendricks ...

I like that ... we got SASHI’d ... lets hope KJ don’t get SASHI’d to often ....

Does Ray Horton count?

He's a solid 3rd corner. Big fan of Joe, would love to see him back. Problem is he is about to be 30.

Emotionally, I can get onboard with the idea of Joe Haden coming home to Cleveland.

In terms of cost vs performance, I don't see him being more than marginally better than what we can draft and groom, however. We already have Mitchell as the "veteran" CB as well as Gaines and Carrie along with Ward now having a year under his belt. We have more than adequate "veteran presence"; we need to start grooming young talent that will be here for the long haul.

jc

I really like Joe when he was here. He was injured quite a bit at the end though. I would love to see him retire in a Browns uniform.

I think when you break down the difference between emotions and practicality your post explains it well.

That's 37 in corner years.

Yes, to name a few:

Paul Warfield - Traded in '69 to Miami/re-signed with the Browns when the World Football League folded after the '75 season.

Mike Baab - Traded to NE in '88/re-signed as a Plan B free agent in '90.

Earnest Byner - Traded to the Redskins in '89 for RB Mike Oliphant/re-signed as a free agent in '94.

Antonio Langham
Orlando Brown

J/C

The elder statesman CB we should have kept was McCourty.

If Haden isn't valuable-enough to the Cheaters and their awful D backfield, how could he be valuable-at-all to us?

j/c:

Has anyone confirmed that the Steelers really want to part ways w/Haden?

Personally, I think our current group of corners are better than either Haden or McCourty.

I think that it was an opinion that they could drop Haden, and a release or restructure of Haden really makes sense.

The Steelers have $10 million in cap space. (with their top 51) They have an issue with Brown. Haden will cost somewhere around $9 million next year if he plays at his current contract. He's the kind of veteran who does find himself on the outs as the league year opens.

More importantly, the Steelers would get more money by cutting either Mike Mitchel or William Gay. I think we're doomed to watch Haden play out the rest of his contract there. Hopefully we knock them out of playoff contention so we won't have to see his contract get dragged out by playoff games

Haden is their best corner, he's going nowhere.

And he would probably be our worst corner, so that's good news...