DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Palus Politicus Socialism - another hot button Fox/Right wing false narrative.

Ah, would you like to see the articles about American hospitals who "patient dump"? Would you like to see world rankings in healthcare?

I didn't think so. You want to find those who complain and pretend that represents what's the norm. It isn't.

Trump says Australia's health care beats the U.S.'s: He's right

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-says-australias-health-care-beats-the-us-hes-right/

OH SNAP! Did Pit just use a Trump statement to shut 40's trolling down? LMAO

No, because 40 didn't say anything, 40 brought you views from Australians who live with Socialism, and die from it.

Yes you just posted articles that fit your agenda. So I guess you are RIGHT.

Trump targets democratic socialist Bernie Sanders and AOC with his attacks on the socialist left and socialism and his supporters cry about how bad socialism is... Meanwhile Trump takes advice from Putin (openly acknowledged), embraces brutal dictators and regimes around the world all while acting like a plutocratic Autocrat at home. Yes it is better to be friendly with the communist dictators, and drive the US toward an authoritarian dictatorship than to let a DEMOCRATIC socialist bring about change that levels the playing field for the working man and poor while helping everyone. Talk about screwed up values... smh


Did Putin give Trump the idea to stop “war games” with South Korea?

https://qz.com/1304547/trump-stopping-war-games-with-south-korea-was-putins-idea/


6 Strongmen Trump Has Praised — And The Conflicts It Presents

https://www.npr.org/2017/05/02/526520042/6-strongmen-trumps-praised-and-the-conflicts-it-presents

2020 Dems being urged to back push to pack Supreme Court

Progressive groups are reaching out to 2020 Democratic presidential candidates to support their push to expand the number of Supreme Court justices in order to diminish the current conservative majority.

So far, the drive by the group named ‘Pack the Courts’ is getting two maybes from Democratic presidential contenders and a no from a likely White House hopeful.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/2020-dems-being-urged-to-back-push-to-pack-supreme-court

The Left will stop at nothing.
They hate Trump more than they love our Country.

Shame!

This is the type of statement that always makes me chuckle.
Truly bumper sticker-grade kitsch.
Rush Limbaugh -2.5 level stuff.
Chum for debate-hungry sharks.


I don't play that.
I'm not hungry. And I know the difference between bait- and prey.

_____________________


Both parties will stop at nothing.
They're political parties.

Stopping at nothing is what political parties do. That's why so many of their operatives have gone (or eventually will go) to jail.


Having said that, I'll also say this: In this particular instance, the petitioners have precedent on their side.
Supreme Court numbers have been extremely fluid, going all the back to 1789. That's 'founding fathers' old, Dawg.


But you're all: "Enemies will stop at nuttin'," aren't you?


That's why I laugh. And chuckle. And snort. And occasionally guffaw- depending on how audacious/hypocritical/under-informed/tone-deaf/IQ- challenged you choose to be on any given day/subject.


If you live with fam who has access to an Amerex B441 2 lb, please ask them to aim it at your head, and release the valve.
40: #hair on fire


This is nothing more than History rhyming, once again.
S# don't always roll in your ideological favor.


Shall I help you to your fainting couch, Mizz Scarlet?


As I alluded in a previous post: you really should sit tight (and silent) on the bench with your trusty clipboard, as you watch The Franchise work a thread here at DT.


"For punishment, you are a glutton-
And I might have to undo a button...
Once I finally decide
If I'll serve up your hide
As a crown roast, lamb chops- or as mutton.

I'll certainly agree you didn't say anything. At least anything of substance. Just the typical conservative complaints about how different culture assures different results (Because Australia, U.K, Japan, etc, all are so culturally similar that that's why our gun control works) and the insanely entitled claims about how public health care doesn't cater to individuals who aren't seriously ill or are having elective surgery.

It's more of the same. Unimpressive and trite. Which sums up conservativism.

You gave your opinion on the state of your home nation.
I simply showed your opinion was your own.

I see Libs in both our Countries do not like being questioned and react by attacking the messenger. Must be a world wide emotional disturbance.

No, they know it's foolish for someone to show you the opinion of a hand full of people and try to claim it's what their nation thinks on an issue.

So you are saying BDU's opinion was the final word on the subject.

Not surprising.

Austrailia is ranked much higher in healthcare than the U.S. by a large margin. It's not even close. So all of your hot air, propaganda BS won't change that.

It was not my hot air. It was the opinion from other Aussies on the state of their own healthcare.

Go look in the mirror for propaganda BS.

You point out only the things that support what you wish to believe.

I see you fail to mention that all Democratic nations have national healthcare and every one of those rank higher in healthcare than the United states while all spend less per person than the United states. The evidence is in for anyone willing to look at it objectively. And posting the outliers to try and support a defunct argument won't change that.

Gee, then lets see what the Fed Chairman says about your ideas...

Powell says economic theory of unlimited borrowing supported by Ocasio-Cortez is just 'wrong'

An increasingly popular theory espoused by progressives that the government can continue to borrow to fund social programs such as Medicare for everyone, free college tuition and a conversion to renewable energy in the next decade is unworkable, Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell said Tuesday.

"The idea that deficits don't matter for countries that can borrow in their own currency I think is just wrong," Powell said during congressional testimony in the Senate.

The notion behind what is called "Modern Monetary Theory," or MMT, is that as long as the Fed can keep interest rates low without sparking inflation, the national debt and budget deficit won't be an issue. MMT has been espoused by politicians including Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., and Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/26/fed-chie...just-wrong.html

Stupid is as Stupid does.

Yep, the rest of the free world can do it but we keep making excuses.

Wow - don't answer the post just change direction .... nice.

Your opinion piece from an unhappy Aussie was fine. It was also the outlier. The guy who wrote that might have a genuine beef or he might have been paid by someone with an interest in sowing discord ... the FACT remains that overwhelmingly the evidence supports and verifies that Australia's nationalized healthcare is better and more affordable than the USA's.

But - I know you, just like Fox, would prefer to take the ramblings (or in Fox's case random tweets) from someone with an opinion - and then claim that somehow that proves something on a larger scale ... or in Fox's case they seem to be currently quoting random left wing tweets from the public and claiming it's news and that it reflects the Democratic view point on something.

Watching clips from CPAC where GOPers are decrying socialism and just heard CNN's John King call the GOP the "Grand Ostrich Party".

GOP === Grand Ostrich Party

This is what 2020 is being turned into:

GOP targets Socialism in hopes the Dems will nominate a far left progressive / democratic socialist to Trump run against because they think they can win the middle and independents. At least that's what they want us to think...

The GOPers really fear the Progressive candidates and want the Dems to buckle onder their rhetoric and pressure from big media to nominate Hillary 2.0; then Trump can trounce them. Two Democratic Socialist are the two most popular politicians in the country! Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, one is popular due to far left ant the other the far right. Both are liked by much of the middle.

The "middle" hates both Sanders and AOC.

Actually if the GOPers are smart they won't say much about old Bernie and the Socialists. Because once again, just like last time, your party will be divided between the extremists and the moderates, and this gives Trump the best chance.

If the Dems were actually united and put forth a moderate populist candidate, they could easily beat Trump.

You all are instruments of your own failure.

The South is a lost cause for Democrats. They need to stop trying to appeal to them. Focus on where the labor is. The midwest still remembers that life is best when we have strong labor. If they elect another Hillaryite, then they'll lose the midwest. Might be able to carry Atlanta, but not Georgia and not the South.

You are one of the most biased posters I have ever encountered. You get away w/a lot because you rail against the establishment, but man, you have a disturbing tendency to attach damning labels to entire groups of people.

Only a teacher would think that labor is a damning label and not the life blood of the world

Get a life, Vers.

Why do you do this?

I was referring to you saying "the south is a lost cause for Democrats."

You despise other folks who label entire groups of people, but you do the same damn thing all the time.

Jesus man, the South is much different than you think it is People are people. There are good and bad in each group. Stop w/the all-encompassing labels.

I know you do it constantly, but you really need to stop talking out of your butt.

I quoted you.

You are a biased person that is just as bad as guys like 40 and Vambo.

I will say this again .................Assigning qualitative labels to entire groups of people is wrong. I will add that it is ignorant and only adds to the problems instead of attempting to repair our issues.

I see you as I see 40 and Vambo. You are all the enemy of peace and productivity because hate is in your heart.

This would mean a lot more if you didn't pick fights every day on this forum. Someone mentions Sashi? Gotta cut that out like the Gestappo. Someone says something bad about Hue? Where's the gun. Forum is dead? Time to troll the other sub forums. It's a shame, because you're such a bright dude, but you just want to fight all the time. Right now you're taking the obvious political strategy and saying that it's a condemnation of an entire group of people. Blue dog democrats are not only not allies for progressive ideas, they can no longer hold down their districts. They're politically useless, both as allies and as administrators. The Democrats need to stop focusing on the coastal elites and the south during elections and focus more on the midwest. If I'm a monster for pointing out the obvious, then so be it. It doesn't change the truth.

LOL............right.

Maybe one day.............you will get it.

And maybe one day you'll look at a political map. Until then, like sand in an hour glass, these are the days of our lives.

I have looked at political maps. I also know that labels are wrong. Perhaps one day....you will realize that it is wrong to assign labels onto entire groups of people.

Well let's hope one day you understand them

I agree that the south is lost as far as flipping it blue. Vers can't argue with that.

I am not arguing that, OCD.

I am arguing that one should not attach labels to entire groups of people.

This is a great paradox.

I’m pretty sure that you, me, swish, ocd, Pitt, perfect, and a few others all get labeled into a group.

I will await the “leave the liberals alone!” defense force!

Socialist, alarmist

Slander used by the south and republicans. Protect your top 5% of American wealth, act like race relations aren’t an issue, and tell me anthropogenic climate change does not happen.

We literally should have stomped on your throat after the Civil War. This amount of injustice is laughable, if we are talking fundamental ideology of tUSA.

It should not surpise us, these are the dark points in American history, check the source.

You show fear of the South.

I find that odd.

Considering the South is much more racially inclusive that any other part of the country.

What do you fear, exactly?