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Give the reporter the truth and don't try to massage the answer to fit your needs and the controversy goes away. Freedom of the press is a wonderful thing. You guys should try supporting it.
Everyone supports the Constitution until it's inconvenient for them I guess......
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Actually I think most of the whining isn't coming from Phil it's coming from you guys It is..  And anyone who thinks the media created any controversy on this team doesn't have a clue how the media works. U are so dead wrong on that..how many times have we read junk that Phil is setting up Rac and so on? Take your mind out of the denial it's in. The media does go further than theyshould..often guys have a agenda.. So you don't think Grossi reporting that Tressel was coming was not any controversy? Had Romeo come out the first week of practice and said Charlie is the QB until further notice then guess what......No QB questions. Then he be called a liar as I told Pit. See how U forgot it was said in the offseason DA would have a chance to compete? What was that? U forgot?? The same with any other problems with the team. "What's this we hear about Bentley's rehab?" Correct answer: He'll probably not play this year even though he wants to. That would be premature and stupid when you don't know..unless U truely want to save him for 08. Give the reporter the truth and don't try to massage the answer to fit your needs and the controversy goes away. Yeah they're like innocent lille babies who need to be bottle fed milk every 2 hrs 
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Actually I think most of the whining isn't coming from Phil it's coming from you guys..... 
And anyone who thinks the media created any controversy on this team doesn't have a clue how the media works. They may report the same thing 50 times in the span of one week but they don't create the story. They just report it. Had Romeo come out the first week of practice and said Charlie is the QB until further notice then guess what......No QB questions. The same with any other problems with the team. "What's this we hear about Bentley's rehab?" Correct answer: He'll probably not play this year even though he wants to. Answer given to the press: "Uh, gosh, we're not sure"
See how that works? Give the reporter the truth and don't try to massage the answer to fit your needs and the controversy goes away. Freedom of the press is a wonderful thing. You guys should try supporting it.
Everyone supports the Constitution until it's inconvenient for them I guess......
BS! The media determines what to talk about. They ask the questions they want to ask and report on things they want to report on. It's freedom of the opinionated press. They create controversy by reporting on the same things over and over again and asking the same questions over and over again.
They don't like straight forward answers. In fact, they love when the straight answer doesn't come because it gives them an avenue to create and manipulate. I could give you tons of examples of stories the media here in Atlanta choose to create and report just to cause tension. It's pathetic. No one talks about these things until the media creates them. It gets people talking. But it's all negative. The Cleveland media is no different.
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They may report the same thing 50 times in the span of one week but they don't create the story. They just report it.
Oh how naive you are... Let me site one example for ya.
When did you ever hear Savage or Lerner or anyone higher up in the organization say that RAC was on the hotseat? Name the person who said it.
Ok,, now that you can't do that, tell me how a reporter reports something that wasn't said?
THEY MADE IT UP TO START A LINE OF CONTROVERSY! They needed something to talk about,, they didn't have anything real, so one or many of them started something...
Now I would say it's perfectly ok for a reporter to ask,, "Is RAC on the hotseat if he doesn't win 8 games this year".. Perfectly good question in my mind.. Fair. But that's not what takes place.
A reporter speculates that RAC will be on the Hotseat, another reporter picks that up and says, "Unconfirmed reports suggest that RAC is on the hotseat" then of course, ESPN says, "Local sources confirm that RAC is on the hotseat"
See how it works,,, Tell me again how they don't make the news, that they just report it!
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People who run teams in cities that love those teams will always have questions when the teams aren't doing well.
Savage needs to grow a set .... along with some thicker skin. He's the leader of the lowest performing team in town right now. The Cavaliers went to the Finals. The Indians have the 3rd best record in all of baseball, and (barring total implosion) are headed to the playoffs. The bar has been raised .... and the Browns need to start experiencing some success as well. The Indians and Caviliers have still had those who questioned every move .... questioned the players determination and capability ..... and so on. It comes with the territory, and simply being the 3rd year head of a beloved, but struggling, team doesn't get you a free pass. If anything it turns up the scrutiny and increases the questions about every move.
A former boss of mine kept a sign in his office that said "No Whining". Maybe we should take up a contribution to buy one for Savage.
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Tell me something..how long did it take the Cavs to go to the finals?
And we know Lebron was the MAJOR reason..but did they INSTANTLY go to the finals since he came?
And the Indians...how many years have they been out of the post season hunt?
Maybe the fans can grow some common sense also?
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How many years has it been since the Browns fielded a competent team? I don't count the Buth Davis fluke team that caught so many weird breaks to squeak into the playoffs ..... but a legitimate playoff contender? 1994? That's a lot of years od bad football .... and 3 years of oblivion. Whether Savage likes it or not, he gets the brunt of the team's recent history until he proves capable of changing the team's fortunes. Not "should" ..... not "probably will" ....... but until he does it via the team on the field. Even then, there will still be questions. There always are, and always will be. If this minor stuff is getting under his skin, he won't be around for long, because he'll jump following the 1st 2 game losing streak. 
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Just a general reply;
some of you guys are killing me...
The media lets RAC and Phil get away with murder, especially Romeo. Watch the press conference on the main site with Romeo on Wednesday.... he'll half-ass an answer, not saying much of anything, and there's no follow up, no questions to press any issue. Happens all the time.
To an outsider like me, the Cleveland sports media doesn't seem nearly as bad as other cities... Boston or New York.
If you guys knew what the hockey media is like in Toronto or Montreal, you'd see the Cleveland sports media as a bunch of spineless jellyfish by comparison.
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How many years has it been since the Browns fielded a competent team?
Football is different than baseball/basketball.
All of those blown picks and FA crap that Clark and Botch brought in set this team back..U realize we should have at least 3- 5 players from 99??
We don't.
Phil is building a competent team..so I can wait ..
If this minor stuff is getting under his skin, he won't be around for long, because he'll jump following the 1st 2 game losing streak
Please he's deflected a lot of crap the media has spewed that last few years..
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If I had the crying baby image .... I'd post it.
Phil has received a pretty heavy duty free pass thus far. His biggest question mark has been "Does Romeo stay or not?". The press rallied behind him when the "power struggle" occurred. There are some GMs who would kill for the support Savage has received thus far.
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Ytown,, deflecting blame for this particular issue doesn't wash.. In my eyes, there is NO good excuse for starting rumors just to get response that then gets twisted into an even bigger "Non Issue" Story.
Deflecting this back to Phil in this manner doesn't ring of truth,,, or fact for that matter
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How many years has it been since the Browns fielded a competent team?
Football is different than baseball/basketball.
All of those blown picks and FA crap that Clark and Botch brought in set this team back..U realize we should have at least 3- 5 players from 99??
We don't.
Phil is building a competent team..so I can wait ..
If this minor stuff is getting under his skin, he won't be around for long, because he'll jump following the 1st 2 game losing streak
Please he's deflected a lot of crap the media has spewed that last few years..
Actually it's harder to turn around a basketball or baseball franchise...
Not that I disagree with you with the lack of talent, because I don't. I'm just saying it's a quicker timeframe to turn around a football franchise due to the cap and parity.
We should see us take a leap in this 3rd year.
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Ytown,, deflecting blame for this particular issue doesn't wash.. In my eyes, there is NO good excuse for starting rumors just to get response that then gets twisted into an even bigger "Non Issue" Story.
Deflecting this back to Phil in this manner doesn't ring of truth,,, or fact for that matter
What are you talking about? 
The QB thing or RAC being on the hot seat?
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I am going to agree with Pat here. Phil really needs to shut up about the whole media influence. Cleveland's media is a joke and wield no power; especially with CBS sold out each and every Sunday no matter the games outcome.
If PS thinks dealing with Cleveland's media is stressful, try Philly's, New England or New York's.
RAC deserves to be on the hot seat. All coaches do. If Joe Torre can sit on the hot throne in NY with his resume, the RAC can take a little heat.
People need to hold the Browns accountable. It was PS and RAC that decided to tear down and build from scratch. Now, at least IMHO, they have enough talent to win some games in this league. That being the case, Savage has shown some promise.
It's time for RAC to do the same. Jim Brown said it, put up or shut up.
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Would you be changing the diaper? Sounds like U need one. Phil has received a pretty heavy duty free pass thus far Why do some of you say that? What free pass? The third year of any new regime shows where the team is headed.. Who said Phil has never ever made a mistake or we should overlook everything? Some of us UNDERSTAND why certain moves were made..some of us understand that every move isn't going to work.. The press rallied behind him when the "power struggle" occurred No..the fans did first..then the media did..although some of the people wanted him gone. Now a lot of those same people want Rac gone.. Fact is have we had a GM with his credential and has tried to build a team like he has? AMMO : Actually it's harder to turn around a basketball or baseball franchise... How U figure? In the NBA IT takes 1 - 2 players to turn a rotten franchise around..look at the Cavs.. Baseball is harder than basketball..and in some aspects harder than football because there's no salary cap...sot he wealthy get the best players. But they do get farm teams to develop players.
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Actually it's harder to turn around a basketball or baseball franchise...
Not that I disagree with you with the lack of talent, because I don't. I'm just saying it's a quicker timeframe to turn around a football franchise due to the cap and parity.
We should see us take a leap in this 3rd year.
I agree, Ammo, it is MUCH harder to turn a basketball team away due to the restrictive salary cap and guaranteed salaries (Larry Hughes!). It is MUCH harder in baseball unless you are a huge market team (Boston & NY).
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Actually I think most of the whining isn't coming from Phil it's coming from you guys...
No kidding.
They claim to hate everything associated with the media yet somehow are the first to whine about it and call people naive.
Funny stuff really..
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If PS thinks dealing with Cleveland's media is stressful, try Philly's, New England or New York's.
That's completely irrelevant. This is Cleveland and we should have higher standards than that.
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The Cleveland media treats this franchise with kid gloves. Anybody who doesn't see that, doesn't know what they are talking about.
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I said a lot of posters are naive..aim your remark at me...U fall into that category?
I didn't say I hate everything associated with the media and if I were to..then I would complain about every article I read.
Funny stuff really..
No U are...
I don't buy into everything the media spits out..
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What kills me is that it's always the same 3-4 guys crying about the media. I expect Phil to do that. He knows it's a line of crap but it helps deflect criticism from Romeo and himself. I doubt he actually believes his own whining.
These guys, on the other hand, actually think there is a media conspiracy to rack the Cleveland Browns with controversy. Hilarious, really.
Simply stated, if the Browns put a few more W's on the scoreboard there'd be a lot less "controversy". And the last time I checked the "media" was not responsible for a single win or loss. Ever. Gosh, Pat was right.
See how easy that was.
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Peen, this comment by Otto is why I was calling him naive.. Quote:
They may report the same thing 50 times in the span of one week but they don't create the story. They just report it.
Are you agreeing with Otto when he says that reporters ONLY report the story?
If so, then my comment stands, but now applies to you as well...
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Anyone who thinks that, doesn't know what they are talking about.
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I don't think that... I KNOW that. No offence.
Now maybe the electronic media in C-Town is different, I dont live there . But judging by the print media, and the press conference vids, RAC and Phil are treated pretty damn lightly.
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Oh how naive you are... Let me site one example for ya.
When did you ever hear Savage or Lerner or anyone higher up in the organization say that RAC was on the hotseat? Name the person who said it.
Ok,, now that you can't do that, tell me how a reporter reports something that wasn't said?
THEY MADE IT UP TO START A LINE OF CONTROVERSY!
<sarcasm>The no good reporters! Remember how they made up stories that Butch Davis was going to be fired in the middle of the season? *Pssh* They made it up to sell papers. Davis RESIGNED... he wasn't fired. Bunch of no good liars.
Remember how the reporters said Dilfer was demanding a trade because of Carthon? LIARS!
Remember how the reporters said Carthon would be fired? RAC and Phil told us that Moe was in NO jeopardy and consistency was important. Moe RESIGNED! The LIARS (media) strike again.</sarcasm>
Face it, no matter where it is government, sports, or office politics - information gets leaked. Reporters received leaked information and look for a hook of some kind.
My guess... Phil is starting to feel the heat.
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These guys, on the other hand, actually think there is a media conspiracy to rack the Cleveland Browns with controversy. Hilarious, really.
Then you're actually blind to it then..
Or you don't know how to interpet it.
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Merth, if I was so inclined, I suppose I could find a few other examples of what I think,, but frankly, the whole thing isn't worth my time or effort. Nothing I say is going to convince anyone I'm right if they don't already know it..
SO,, I'm outta this one...
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Well on this it's obvious some are not perceptive enough to get it.
The media put Rac on the hotseat and they take shots at Phil many times.
Get this..I've seen too many articles that say Phil is setting up Rac or they're not on the same page..or Rac is a lame duck coach..
Grossi went on his tirade about Tressell coming..
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Thanks, Merth. At least I know I'm not totally insane. (Notice I said not totally......  )
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The sheep will continue to read and believe everything that is reported to them.
No. But as it pertains to the Browns show me one instance when something that was reported was incorrect.
I'll help you out......it's gonna be mighty tough.
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How bout Grossi and Tressell?
How bout Lerner and drafting QB's?
How b out Rac being a lame duck coach?
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These guys, on the other hand, actually think there is a media conspiracy to rack the Cleveland Browns with controversy. Hilarious, really.
It is hilarious.................
They read too much into things. Just like the Dosey/Anderson joke. Look at it for what it is and go with it.
Had RAC have came out week 1 in pre season and named a starter and back-up,all this "QB contraversy" wouldn't be going on right now. but no,he couldn't let training camp answer the question before pre season. Or game 1,or game 2,or game three or..............................
Hell,he just announced the starter. He could have easily said he gave them equal reps in camp and Frye is the starter by at LEAST week 2 in the pre season and talked Charlie up to the media.
But no,he just perpetuated this thing on and on and on.
No wonder the media and the fans are going through this QB contraversy. The head coach has done it ever since the beginning of training camp.
I didn't hear them whining when RAC was doing it. Or Phil either for that matter.
It's only when a few of us posters or the media does it to bring out the lynch mob!
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How bout Grossi and Tressell?
How bout Lerner and drafting QB's?
How b out Rac being a lame duck coach?
This article and discussion pertains to the QB contraversy going on in Cleveland
That's been an ongoing theme from the beginning of training camp untill just a couple of days ago BY OUR COACHING STAFF!
So go ahead and blame the media for "this one too".
In some cases the media does start contraversies,but with this one? It falls squarely on RAC.
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HILARIOUS and SO TRUE... Funny part about it all is that the SAME people continue to drink the F.O. Koolaid while the writing is on the wall... FACTOID #1. Frye and DA were made available to other teams by our FO this offseason. FACT #2. Savage entered us into the Trent Green Derby because he needed something better here. FACT #3. We traded up to grab Quinn to address the need at QB. FACT #4. RAC announced an open comp. in training camp to determine teh starter. FACT #5. RAC flipped a coin to determine the starter for pre-season game one because NEITHER of his projected starters showed any promise. FACT #6. Charlie and DA were STILL being offered up to any takers as recent as 10 days ago. The media KNOWS these things and MOST fans tend to not put them into persepctive but as Merth pointed out, the "media" is more correct about "rumors" around here than most seem to give them credit for... I ABSOLUTELY think RAC is on the hotseat whether some people choose to ignore the facts or not... Flame on...
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I'm beginning to see you have selective reading..
This article and discussion pertains to the QB contraversy going on in Cleveland
Guess you don't read every post.
Cuz this discussion is going in different directions..and U don't stay ON COURSE ALL THE TIME EITHER ..
I'm done for now..U guys go off on a tangent a lot.....
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I'm done for now..U guys go off on a tangent a lot.....
Well,one tangent I will never have is giving the FO,coaching staff,players or any other members of the organisation a "free pass" no matter what they do. To go to bat for them and stick my neck out for them even when they do screw up. To win,everyone must be held accountable.
So we all have our tangents. But mine is a little more objective than some.
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Grossi and Tressell.....Tony speculated that Tressell would be a good fit. I don't recall him saying the Browns were seriously looking at him but he might have. Even if he did I seriously doubt he made it up out of whole cloth. He got leaked some info from someone.
Lerner and QB's......Not sure what you are getting at here but I'll take a stab. Do you seriously think that the owner of the team had no say in whether we picked a QB and who that might be? C'mon, not even you can be that thick.
RAC....If you don't think RAC is sitting on a seat that is a tad bit warm you are naive beyond the wildest imagination. The man is 10-22 in the last 2 years. Anyone that thinks he can survive another 4-12 season is drinking the koolaid, big time.
Besides, these issues are hardly what I would call a controversy. They are normal topics of discussion. Especially on a losing team. As I said before a few wins ends all the "controversy" for good.
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Forget it man....some talk about interpretation then don't even know op-ed from reporting.
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