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This is going to be interesting !

All i ask is that the dems to pull a GOP with hillary's emails, and keep going for it non stop.

accept the finding and move on.

What huge waste of time and a complete $40 million dollar cluster-frak. Ridiculous.

Opinion.

Facts: 30+ people indicted.

Simply not true on any level

We've reached the end of the beginning.

Yet not a single charge of conspiracy, collusion, and none with anything to do about Russia.

so crimes are all good with you as long as it isn't collusion. got it.

you heard it here first. Erik is perfectly fine with criminal activity as long as its the people he supports.

I'll take your analysis and opinions as gospel when you can provide empirical proof of no-go zones.

I'm looking for well-respected publications, and YouTube videos don't count.

Please staff away from right-wing rags, too.

Thanks!

Should he post 2 year old articles, and then claim "Well, I didn't look at the date. It showed up in my feed."

If the government dug into your past just to check and see if there was a crime, what would they find? What would they find on any of us?

The premise of this entire witch hunt was simple. Look into every aspect of the lives of Trump supporters and see what can be found. Barring that, let's see if we can accuse them of lying.

How would any of you fare with the McCarthy tactics that were used?

I don't know Clem I still feel like this

I see what you did there.

Well I drive over the speed limit a lot. . . . and, and, and, well maybe I am boring - but that is it.

As for your comment about McCarthy like tactics ... that's you just believing the drivel the state run news agency and Brietbart is feeding you.

Actually, I haven't watched the news in years. I read several different sites, including Breitbart, drudge, UK sites, liberal sites like MSN, and others. I read the right, left, middle, and foreign. Can you say the same?

I would absolutly defy you to find me one politician, rich person, or powerful person that hasn'the done something unethical to aquire that wealth and power.

This has been a witch hunt. The bring people into testify, threaten them with crimes, and attempt to force confessions.

So you've already changed your position - from any one of us to merely focusing on the rich or powerful and politicians?

It wasn't a witch hunt.

Russia tried to get Trump elected. That's fact. Trump campaign lied constantly about contact and affiliation with Russians. Fact. . . . . ergo it was investigated to see if there was any chance the Russians actually worked with the Campaign during the process.

It's not hard. And while you say everyone has dirt in their past if it was investigated .... You know what, if it's true, then let's investigate them all - left, right and corporate leaders - and the corrupt ones can lose the assets and gains from their criminal behavior. I'd be 100% fine with that.

Calling this a witch hunt and questioning Mueller's tactics is 100% buying into the Trump attack on the credibility of the investigation that has led to 34 people being charged, many of them Russians. And if you think it's normal for a presidential candidate to surround himself with so many criminals in top positions, the world must be a pretty awful place for you to live in.

Democrats are aj joke. I think they owe America a apologia.

Now its time to go back to worriying about how much Malania shos cost.

Apples and pancakes...you keep trying to claim Hillary was innocent. Comey spent 15 minutes on national tv telling us how she repeatedly broke the law and was guilty of using her private, non-government server to send and receive classified emails. We later learned that foreign adversaries gained access to her bathroom server. That act compromised the security of American citizens. She committed espionage and Loretta Lynch did nothing about it. Shocker.

THAT is a real crime that was investigated (weakly) and found evidence of criminal activity. The Mueller probe apparently did not find any evidence of what it was charged to find...unlike the Hillary email corruption.

The two things could not be more dissimilar if made up for a segment on The View.

j/c:

This thread is going to be so much fun to follow.

Hillary wasn’t charged with anything. No charges, no convictions on her or anyone around her.

The same can NOT be said for trump and his cronies. Multiple indictments, guilty pleas, and guilty verdicts. You’re right, it is apples to oranges. Hillary is less corrupt than trump.

And that’s the way the GOP sheep on Capitol Hill and Foxnews rolls as well. Nothing we didn’t know already bro.

And smarter.

To be fair so is my neighbor’s chihuahua...
...the birds in my trees out back
...the ants in my driveway
...the lamp in my living room
...my bath towel
The list could go on.

I think it’s pretty cool how swish brought up Hillary first and the usual suspects took the bait.

It's like the Democrats just found out that Santa Claus is not real.

Leaked LA Times Mueller report...
https://www.latlmes.com/breaking/full-leaked-robert-mueller-report

Like the apology we got over Hillary's emails?

How about we wait to see what the report actually says. I see the right celebrating no more indictments coming from Mueller. Does that mean there are no more indictments coming from SDNY, DC, or any one of many other investigations that Mueller spun off or were initiated elsewhere.

I wouldn't call Mueller's investigation a waste of time even if it clears Trump and other of knowingly or unwittingly colluding to win the election. But we already know for a fact that they had meetings with Russians to get dirt on Hillary and open some sort of back channel communications.

We also know Trump is included on the indictment of Cohen for illegal payoffs. We know the Trump Charity organization is a sham. We know Trump lied about not having business dealings with Russia during the campaign. There is a ton of info uncovered during the special counsel investigation. Tons.

We would not have known these things without Mueller, we would not have identified the players that interfered with our election in 2016. We wouldn't see the tip of the iceberg that is the Trump criminal enterprise.

At this time, we don't know what Mueller actually has to say about collusion, conspiracy, and Trump's Russian connections. All we know is that he is not bringing more indictments. Is that because there was not enough evidence? Is that because there was no evidence? Is that because he thinks a sitting POTUS can't be indicted? Is that because he spun some of it off to other agencies and they will be following through? We just don't know.

But right now and here I will say that if Trump is innocent of all accusations (we already know he's complicit in some) that I will apologize for calling him a traitor. But I will not apologize before the facts come out and before we really know what was done and by who.

I expect people to take positions based on facts and not feelings. I take positions based on proven fact, and Erik repeatedly takes positions using feelings.

And OJ Simpson was also found innocent.

Hillary was investigated (using that term loosely) for wrong-doing...and she was found to have done wrong on numerous counts...egregious and careless wrong-doing. Obama's puppet Loretta looked the other way.

Trump was investigated (with no apparent limits on scope, time, money or intrusion and intimidation) for alleged wrong-doing...and was found to have NOT done wrong.

One committed a serious crime, lied repeatedly about the crime, destroyed evidence about the crime and got away with it...ala OJ...one did not commit a crime and got away with it.

Can we get our 40 million dollars back from the Democratic sheep and whinners.

Manafort already paid it back lololol

Anyway, interesting that the DoJ won’t release it today. If it cleared trump and his associatesc wouldn’t be taking so long.

I don't agree at all..

First of all, it's not over yet, in fact I think it's just beginning.

Second, $40 million isn't the cost,, it fact it's way less than that... You are forgetting the fines we levied and extracted from folks,, manafort paid a hefty fine in the area of $15+ million and he also lost property in the mix. Total cost to him was around $20 Million.. Cohen also lost money and so did Flynn.

We are a long way from done. The house committees will use t he information that Mueller uncovered and go after the things that Mueller didn't.

Remember, the Special Counsel is more of an investigative body....

First, what the hell does OJ have to do with anything?

But the statement about Trump is just flat out WRONG. He's been found to have done several impeachable things. The payoffs, the mismanagement of Trump org funds, lying about the Trump Tower Moscow deal, and breaking the emoluments clause are all impeachable offenses but the GOPer Senate will not vote to impeach. They are complicit too as far as I'm concerned. So don't drag this trash up in this thread and expect to be taken seriously.

You got way more than that from Mueller confiscating Manafort's assets. And that man earned every dime he made and it was all well spent. Sorry you can't see that with your Trumpian goggles on.

Probably has something to do with the counterintelligence and national security investigation still ongoing or having to protect sources. I think SDNY & DC picked up some of that IIRC.

I find it hilarious that the Trumpian puppets come on here over the fact they got news that Mueller won't be bringing more indictments. Sure that's a small silver lining, but when you look at all the investigations and suits pending against this administration, not to mention we have NO DETAILS on Mueller's actual findings... as usual GOPers don't know crap but think they do.

IF, big if, Trump is cleared of conspiracy to collude with Russia during the 2016 election; then somebody needs to explain/prove why the hell he acts the way he does with Putin. It's obvious to everyone that he is somehow influenced in that relationship, why?

Exactly, this has been one of the most disgusting misuse of funds I've ever seen in my life. The entire congress, DOJ, ALL members of government owe a HUGE apology to the American people. I'd also accept a refund of whatever funds were used. Can we charge the people who started the investigation without probable cause?

So, who's next for investigations? Obama? Schiff? Talib? AOC?

At this point the House committee can do whatever the F they like. Oh well, we didn't find anything with the Mueller investigation (the one they pinned their hopes on), let's just move to the next thing instead of actually governing for the American citizens. Our congress is quite worthless if you ask me.

When is enough going to be enough? You got to start asking that question at some point.

Its a waste of time rather than doing real governing.

Yeah! and the Hillary investigation too. I mean did they even get any indictments or convictions out of that one?