As a business owner who does business globally (internet) I would be extremely thrilled to see the EU dismantled due to the exceedingly restrictive laws they pass. And try to force upon Americans.
the EU won't take that big of a hit, thats why they're not even making it a big deal. they want the UK to hurry up and go through with it.
the people voted for it, so i want to see what happens. half the country is already ticked about the first referendum, and businesses are already suffering because of the exit.
anybody who thinks the EU will collapse anytime soon, please dont hold your breath.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Brexit was just some right wing tired of left wing rule crap anyway. They roused the low info voters into voting for it and they didn't even have a plan to exit! Much like GOPers taking power here, lots of hot air but no business sitting in the driver's seat. This will probably cause a major recession in the UK that will trickle out into the rest of the world.
yea its a big blow...to the UK. its a dent to the EU, but something they can recover from without much drama.
they will still be the 2nd largest market in the world. i certainly hope its not a domino effect, thats what our enemies want afterall. first it will be the EU, then NATO.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
No, its not like that at all. EU passes all kinds of crappy laws (GDPR) and then tries to force the rest of the world to follow their laws under threat of lawsuit.
It's not good for American business. At all.
The EU is evil. I have Europeans who work for me who hate the EU. Nobody likes them. They are evil and need to go.
Eve we agree on the GDPR, but we can't yell at them until we put our own house in order. The Trumpian infringement on internet freedom is disgusting. And now they want to regulate social media like state run media. you think you have issues now, wait until you have to police every word on your games under threat of multi-million dollar penalties.
Eve we agree on the GDPR, but we can't yell at them until we put our own house in order. The Trumpian infringement on internet freedom is disgusting. And now they want to regulate social media like state run media. you think you have issues now, wait until you have to police every word on your games under threat of multi-million dollar penalties.
Dude, I am already there. I had to encrypt half the data in my database.
Because, God forbid some kid says they have blonde hair and lives in Austria.
OMG! PII! Encrypt! Encrypt! Whaaaaaaaaaat.
I can't stand this ish. It's all horrible.
Trump hasnt done anything remotely as bad as the GDPR.
But there is the Net Neutrality thing, which is bad enough to vote him out no matter what party you belong to
Eve we agree on the GDPR, but we can't yell at them until we put our own house in order. The Trumpian infringement on internet freedom is disgusting. And now they want to regulate social media like state run media. you think you have issues now, wait until you have to police every word on your games under threat of multi-million dollar penalties.
Dude, I am already there. I had to encrypt half the data in my database.
Because, God forbid some kid says they have blonde hair and lives in Austria.
OMG! PII! Encrypt! Encrypt! Whaaaaaaaaaat.
I can't stand this ish. It's all horrible.
Trump hasnt done anything remotely as bad as the GDPR.
But there is the Net Neutrality thing, which is bad enough to vote him out no matter what party you belong to
Only people like us get that though. Average Joe has no idea.
I blame it on porn. If it weren't for all the free porn, the internet would still be just for geeks.
Eve we agree on the GDPR, but we can't yell at them until we put our own house in order. The Trumpian infringement on internet freedom is disgusting. And now they want to regulate social media like state run media. you think you have issues now, wait until you have to police every word on your games under threat of multi-million dollar penalties.
Dude, I am already there. I had to encrypt half the data in my database.
Because, God forbid some kid says they have blonde hair and lives in Austria.
OMG! PII! Encrypt! Encrypt! Whaaaaaaaaaat.
I can't stand this ish. It's all horrible.
Trump hasnt done anything remotely as bad as the GDPR.
But there is the Net Neutrality thing, which is bad enough to vote him out no matter what party you belong to
Only people like us get that though. Average Joe has no idea.
This is true.
It's why I will drink champagne when the EU falls.
Eve we agree on the GDPR, but we can't yell at them until we put our own house in order. The Trumpian infringement on internet freedom is disgusting. And now they want to regulate social media like state run media. you think you have issues now, wait until you have to police every word on your games under threat of multi-million dollar penalties.
Dude, I am already there. I had to encrypt half the data in my database.
Because, God forbid some kid says they have blonde hair and lives in Austria.
OMG! PII! Encrypt! Encrypt! Whaaaaaaaaaat.
I can't stand this ish. It's all horrible.
Trump hasnt done anything remotely as bad as the GDPR.
But there is the Net Neutrality thing, which is bad enough to vote him out no matter what party you belong to
Only people like us get that though. Average Joe has no idea.
I blame it on porn. If it weren't for all the free porn, the internet would still be just for geeks.
I dont blame it on porn. Because porn is the underbelly of the internet that avoids all regulation. Much like illegal stream sports sites.
thats fine since you're arguing from an american business perspective.
i am not. i know europeans who love the EU. also, the EU provides a great business relationship for america overall.
i definitely disagree with you on this.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
there's obviously pros and cons, but EU providing a single market is great for business, instead of having to deal with different standards based on the country you're dealing with.
car companies certainly hate brexit.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
it being 3 years old as far as overall relationship of the two markets isn't really relevant.
also, nobody is claiming US companies are gonna up and stop dealing with the UK. thats our closet ally, we will never do them like that. but it does make things a bit more complicated.
for example, if you're importing cars to europe, then normally you can have 1 set standard to export. if the UK leaves, then the standards will change. so now you have to ship one standard for the EU markets, and another for the UK. no company is gonna go "nah we're good" over that, but the fact is that it will increase cost.
so if the EU collapsed, then a company will have to make a different standard product based on different regs each country has. the EU market streamlines it.
the pound has historically been worth more than the euro and the dollar. its been like that forever now so i don't really understand that point. we have no idea what the pound will be worth once they leave the EU market.
im going off what businesses and half the population say about it.
so yea, it might be better for you specifically, but you're not actually producing anything and shipping it overseas.
just from a logistic management standpoint alone, the UK staying in the EU is more beneficial.
Last edited by Swish; 03/23/1910:11 PM.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
I guess I dont know how a currency affects a car specifiction. Seems it shouldnt matter.
Its true, I'm not shipping anything to Europe.
I dont really understand what difference it makes. Other than the currency valuation.
For a business like mine, its an advantage to sell to Europeans because their superior currency valuation makes my product cost less for them than it does for Americans. It makes my business more competitive than European businesses.
As in: they can buy 3 months of premium upgrade on my game for way less than they can buy 3 months of premium upgrade on an EU game. Its also cheaper for them, than it is for Americans, to be upgraded on my game. Purely because of currency valuations.
I would imagine this is the same for companies selling physical products.
Brexit has no bearing on any of this as the pound and euro are both worth more than usd.
i get that, but again, you're not dealing with import/export laws and logistics management with regards to shipments and such.
also, currency valuation is a good argument to use, but you need to make sure you take into account purchasing power and cost of living. A euro in Germany goes a longer way than a pound in the UK. a euro in Romania goes a longer way than a euro in Germany. A dollar in Slovakia goes a longer way than a dollar in the US.
200 USD (176 euro) in the US will get me two weeks worth of groceries for my family of 4. 80 euro (90 USD) will get me two weeks worth of groceries in Germany.
my overall point is that there's a lot more at stake than just whether or not Eve hates EU restrictions. we're talking about movement of people, cost of living, purchasing power, logistics, etc etc.
a video game isn't essential. you're looking at it from your own personal business standpoint, and im talking about brexit from an overall standpoint.
Last edited by Swish; 03/23/1910:58 PM.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
i get that, but again, you're not dealing with import/export laws and logistics management with regards to shipments and such.
also, currency valuation is a good argument to use, but you need to make sure you take into account purchasing power and cost of living. A euro in Germany goes a longer way than a pound in the UK. a euro in Romania goes a longer way than a euro in Germany. A dollar in Slovakia goes a longer way than a dollar in the US.
200 USD (176 euro) in the US will get me two weeks worth of groceries for my family of 4. 80 euro (90 USD) will get me two weeks worth of groceries in Germany.
my overall point is that there's a lot more at stake than just whether or not Eve hates EU restrictions. we're talking about movement of people, cost of living, purchasing power, logistics, etc etc.
a video game isn't essential. you're looking at it from your own personal business standpoint, and im talking about brexit from an overall standpoint.
Maybe so, but a pound and a euro arent hugely different as far as value.
My point was that this doesnt have much to do with currency.
It has to do with freeing themselves from the EU. And their laws.
This is what I'm all about when it comes to dismantling the EU.
if a referendum was held today, the UK would vote to remain.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
my evil ways still wants to see a no deal brexit though.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Macron and the EU as a whole are pretty much fed up with Brexit and just wants it to be over.
May’s plan already failed in disasterous fashion twice. 3rd times the charm?
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
oh, and a petition to revoke article 50 (brexit) has reached 5 million signatures. for a population of 66 mill, thats significant.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
yep. i want to see a no deal brexit, just to watch the world continuing to burn.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
I'm kind of ignorant about the EU so after reading more about it, the union seemed to have been setup after WWII to avoid more conflicts. Supposedly it helps facilitate trade, social exchanges between countries?
I guess I don't understand what the big deal is if they leave?
