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I'm having to much fun watching it all unfold. I wouldn't miss this if you paid me. I'm a big fan of the circus.

Yes, me too.

Another thing, every Woman I have ever talked to about their abortion has told me basically the same thing...

"You enter those doors as one person and you come out changed for the rest of your life." It is not about rights, it is about guilt forever. Sometime in the future your financial position changes, your life changes and you are left wondering what could have been.

Very sad.

How very white of you to make that decision for her. I mean it's only because you care....

Interesting. The few women I’ve known that have shared their stories were grateful they had the choice to choose. They also, while expressing some grief, realized their lives would have been impacted in such negative ways if they had carried the fetus to term. That they weren’t in a good place to start a family and wee glad they made the choice they made.
Two of the women were able to finish school. One has a PHD. They both have families now and are great parents. Neither has regrets.

So... everyone is different.

Hence we should have choices.

Some recent years ago as I recall abortion was called BLACK GENOCIDE because of the disproportionate amount of abortions in the black community but ,I guess its fine now....what changed hmmmmmmm .

Tell your story to the hundreds and hundreds of women who line the streets in DC every year at the Right to Life March, carrying their little signs stating, "I Regret My Abortion".

what about the thousands and thousands of women who support their right, as well as other womens rights to choose?

they outnumber your side.

I am pro choice, but reluctantly. The Idea that you can't abort a rape baby is so far beyond the pale, I cannot understand.

Meaningless.
About three-quarters of Americans identify as Christian.
They outnumber your side.

It's because people woke up to the fact that it's about choice, not race.

It's because people woke up to the fact that poor crosses the color barrier.

It's because people woke up to the fact that the same people pushing to force that they give birth are the same people trying to gut every program that may help them with their ability to raise that child.

They woke up to the fact that a certain part of our society has worked very hard to divide people along racial and socioeconomic lines.

When you pro choice folks are done with late term abortions and killing living children born alive, perhaps cases of rape, incest and life of the mother can be discussed.

Until then, we go forward.

All or nothing!

Why would you want to sabotage your own agenda? You know damn well reasonable people think that's insane and are going to fight against that?

The same way the dems think post birth abortions or 9 month abortions should be allowed, it's idiocy to sabotage your own agenda to prove some point.


Just like with the election, when you alienate otherwise sympathetic people with utter nonsense it doesn't help.

What I think we are seeing now is the radical extreme of both parties having the loudest voice and the most influence. It's not conducive to anyone trying to use logic and common sense.

It has to be that way for now just like with gun laws, give an inch and the Left will take a mile.

Want to discuss a workable solution?
When you pro choice folks are done with late term abortions and killing living children born alive, perhaps cases of rape, incest and life of the mother can be discussed.

Stop killing kids who would live into their 80's without your intervention.

Until then, we move forward.

I don't intervene in anything. If you offered some logical middle ground it would be much easier to push your abortion agenda. But alas I almost forgot who I was responding to.

Agenda? Elections? Money? Alienation?
We are talking about killing children here!
50+ million Americans are dead so far!
I don't support that.
I have fought against it for decades now.

SMH once again somebody ASSUMES I always vote Republican.

Just a sad sad comment bro

Hopefully some people will WAKE UP to the fact that 9 month to post birth is plain and simple homicide, but, hey as long as the votes come rollin for the soulless left they could care less.

J.C.

If this was the soul issue people voted on you would have a point.

This will be corrected, if not this year. Do you want to know why?

Because Ohio is not antiquated. We do have the good Amish, but take your antiqauted notions elsewhere.

Nothing at all antiquated about killing babies.

a little perspective:

Mike Pence tells Liberty University graduates to prepare to be 'shunned,' 'ridiculed' for being a Christian


Vice President Pence warned the 2019 graduating class at Liberty University in his commencement address that they would face persecution for their faith.

“Throughout most of American history, it's been pretty easy to call yourself Christian,” Pence told students Saturday, according to USA Today. “It didn’t even occur to people that you might be shunned or ridiculed for defending the teachings of the Bible.”

“But things are different now,” he continued, adding that “some of the loudest voices for tolerance today have little tolerance for traditional Christian beliefs. Be ready.”

Drawing from his own personal experience during the address, Pence discussed the criticism his wife, Karen, received last year after she returned to work as an art teacher at a private elementary school that prohibited LGBT students and teachers.

“When my wife, Karen, returned to teach art at an elementary Christian school earlier this year, we faced harsh attacks by the media and the secular left,” he also said during the address, according to The Christian Post.

“These attacks on Christian education are un-American,” Pence continued.

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-...o-prepare-to-be

You mean like the haters prospective right above your post. SMH. 40

How is the Hollywood celeb sex boycott going?

What an insane idea.. telling women to not have sex with men unless they were prepared to take care of the baby...

Why, if they actually did that, unwanted pregnancies and abortions would go to almost 0... what a horrible idea.

And for the record, since somebody will accuse me of putting that responsibility completely on the women to be responsible.. MEN should do it too.

Vasectomy for all 14 year old boys. Happy Birthday... snip snip.
Problem solved.

I dont know and don't much G.A.S-t , what are you asking me for?

More killing and injuring of the innocent I see.

Because yours was the last post....

Create more divides! Useless leadership!

Most people don't care what your beliefs are. Just the loud wheels squeaking to be greased draw attention to this crap. I don't care if you are some bible thumping snowflake that wants to live purely through Jesus or some liberal pretender acting like religion has no place in reality... People have a right to believe what they want and practice their religious beliefs or non-beliefs in anyway they want. AND YOU CAN HAVE POLITICAL VIEWS SKEWED BY YOUR RELIGION! IT'S OKAY!

What you can't do is push your beliefs on others via BS legislation, force, or any other involuntary way! Abortions go against your religion, I understand that and you will never be forced to get one. But your beliefs on abortion do not entitle you to push those on another who may actually want or NEED and abortion. Bottom line is when it comes to religious beliefs we need live our lives the way we choose and but out of others lives who feel differently. Only in a situation of serving the greater good for society should we force acts on somebody that go against their beliefs, like mandatory vaccinations. You don't have to get an abortion to let others get one, you don't have to get gay married to let others do it, but you can make others sick or dead by not getting your kids vaccinated! Is it so hard to understand this simple concept and end this stupid ass division over religious beliefs?

Like anything Milano does, it was a complete failure. Did you not watch the last GoT episode?

women should have full control over whether or not men should be snipped or not. and we should have zero say so in it.

No. More FACTS you can't allow yourself to see.

It's no wonder the right is full of hate filled Incels. Women should choose, period. They should choose when to and when not to have a baby. They should choose when to and when not to sleep with a guy. They should choose to maintain control of their own bodies regardless of the law or 2000 year old cave dwelling beliefs that get dredged up by hateful ass men. The same men trying to force babies on women who don't want them are the ones who also victim shame women for sexual assault... what does this tell us?

Women are not property. Women are equals of men and over half of our population. They should be treated as such.

Why do men like you have the right to decide what a woman can or can not do with her body?

Let her choose. Let him choose too. If she decides to have the baby and he doesn't want anything to do with it, he should be able to walk away without having to pay for the next 18 years.

I think we should start snipping them younger. Have them save a few samples for when they meet the proper lady, they can start a family the right way. But sometimes I just stay awake at night praying to God because the thought of so much sperm being wasted is saddening. What if one of those little guys could cure cancer and they'll just waste their life away in a dirty sock in some dark corner of a kid's room.

Every man that masturbates should be facing 25-life.