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rofl see, i can do that too.... thumbsup

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For God's sake Lefties give it up. Why not admit you were wrong and wasted 30 million dollars acting like children. If your congressmen worked half as hard for America as they do whining about Trump we would have illegals under control, tariffs working fairly, Health care by working together fixed. But all we get is resist, resist resist.

If the Dems ever do get back in power the Republicans will probably act the same way and America loses.

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For God's sake Lefties give it up. Why not admit you were wrong and wasted 30 million dollars acting like children. If your congressmen worked half as hard for America as they do whining about Trump we would have illegals under control, tariffs working fairly, Health care by working together fixed. But all we get is resist, resist resist.

If the Dems ever do get back in power the Republicans will probably act the same way and America loses.


Are you practicing to be a writer for Trump TV? LMAO@U You and your kool aid mustache must be something to behold! Trump is dirty. He let the Russians help him and said nothing while it was going on! It's in the report that they knew what Russia was doing or did and timed things in the campaign to coincide with wikileaks dumps knowing they would benefit from both. They then denied knowing anything, got caught lying, and tried to cover it up.

So there is what you are denying is a problem. If you are good with all that and Trump, we really have nothing to talk about.

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I appreciate your response and the tone of it, but Clem, it's been bugging me. Especially this part:

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It seems that you'd like to initiate substantive change by interacting on a fansite message board. While I think something like that is possible, I also think it's highly unlikely. People don't come here for that. And those who do wish to make a positive difference do so away from this site. Some volunteer their time and service within their communities. Some donate money to causes they believe in. Some mentor young people through their schools or churches. We even have a Dawg Talker who ran for public office in 2018.


I don't think I can initiate change by interacting on a Brown's message board.

What I am saying that I am consistent w/my beliefs and ideals in all walks of life, whether it be on the street, w/my neighbors, on message boards, in the education field, in business, etc.

I don't pick and choose when to be a good citizen who is pursuit of being fair-minded. I would find it hypocritical to talk in public about being fair-minded and then coming on here and preaching hate and having a narrow-minded perspective.

It is my belief that when you have honorable intentions, it's a full time thing and not a part-time act.

But, I get the bottom-line of your commentary. My views aren't really welcomed on this forum. I'm okay w/that.

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And the present game is being won by a dictator that holds more power than any president in American history. And the sheep fall silent.

How does he hold more power than any president in history?


1. His AG is protecting him. He’s acting as his lawyer.
2. The gop sheep on Capitol Hill are silent and believe all the lies and tweets.
3. He controls a major news outlet.
4. He has a military presence in Yemen that the senate has voted to end and ordered to remove our precious troops from harms way and trump vetoed it.
5. He’s placed two SCJ on the SC.
6. He’s written Putin a new lease.
7. He’s given a voice to Lil Kim.
8. He’s taken taxes from the poor and given that to the rich.
9. He’s single handily pulled resources from the military, farming, school programs, the poor, the starving and given that to a useless wall.
10. And the top reason he has more power than anyother president in our history. Most of his cabinet are acting secretaries and not confirmed by congress giving him even more power to his budding dictatorship.


Everything that you just said here, you don't have any evidence whatsoever about anything, from any person, or anyone. Pretty much all of it is made up! tongue


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Originally Posted By: PerfectSpiral
Originally Posted By: DCDAWGFAN
Originally Posted By: PerfectSpiral
And the present game is being won by a dictator that holds more power than any president in American history. And the sheep fall silent.

How does he hold more power than any president in history?


1. His AG is protecting him. He’s acting as his lawyer.
2. The gop sheep on Capitol Hill are silent and believe all the lies and tweets.
3. He controls a major news outlet.
4. He has a military presence in Yemen that the senate has voted to end and ordered to remove our precious troops from harms way and trump vetoed it.
5. He’s placed two SCJ on the SC.
6. He’s written Putin a new lease.
7. He’s given a voice to Lil Kim.
8. He’s taken taxes from the poor and given that to the rich.
9. He’s single handily pulled resources from the military, farming, school programs, the poor, the starving and given that to a useless wall.
10. And the top reason he has more power than anyother president in our history. Most of his cabinet are acting secretaries and not confirmed by congress giving him even more power to his budding dictatorship.


Everything that you just said here, you don't have any evidence whatsoever about anything, from any person, or anyone. Pretty much all of it is made up! tongue


Everything? Ok bro.

10. Most of his current cabinet secretaries are not confirmed. They are temp hand picked acting secretaries who can’t or won’t be confirmed by congress.

5. trump has put two SCJ’s on the SC.

1. The ag is acting like trump’s lawyer

2. The GOP sheep on capital hill do nothing to curb the stupidity of trump.

3. Trump gives Fox News their marching orders each day with his toilet seat tweets.

6. “Russia if you’re listening”. rofl

7. Lil Kim is stretching his missle man legs again.



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Originally Posted By: PerfectSpiral


1. The ag is acting like trump’s lawyer



No no no ... I think of Barr as being like Mr Wolf in Pulp Fiction.



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Originally Posted By: PerfectSpiral
Originally Posted By: DCDAWGFAN
Originally Posted By: PerfectSpiral
And the present game is being won by a dictator that holds more power than any president in American history. And the sheep fall silent.

How does he hold more power than any president in history?


1. His AG is protecting him. He’s acting as his lawyer.

Saying that the Mueller report says No Obstruction when it fact it doesn't say that is just one of many examples that makes him the Presidents personal attorney

2. The gop sheep on Capitol Hill are silent and believe all the lies and tweets.

Unless you are blind, you know Trump lies about everything, even if he doesn't have to, So those that know he lies and still protect and follow him aren't anything but sheep

3. He controls a major news outlet.

are you really going to try to tell me that he doesn't follow and lead FOX news... Seriously?

4. He has a military presence in Yemen that the senate has voted to end and ordered to remove our precious troops from harms way and trump vetoed it.

Deny it if you can


5. He’s placed two SCJ on the SC.

Gorsich and Kavanaugh, how is that one wrong

6. He’s written Putin a new lease.

Honestly, I don't know what this means so you get this one

7. He’s given a voice to Lil Kim.
You can have this one also

8. He’s taken taxes from the poor and given that to the rich.

You'd pretty much have to be blind not to see he's taken from the middle class and poor and given to the rich.


9. He’s single handily pulled resources from the military, farming, school programs, the poor, the starving and given that to a useless wall.

To be fair, he's not actually done this, but he's trying too.... and he has the votes in the senate (or lack of votes to stop him) so he will get his way

10. And the top reason he has more power than anyother president in our history. Most of his cabinet are acting secretaries and not confirmed by congress giving him even more power to his budding dictatorship.

In essence it's true, not that it matters because the sheep in the senate would approve a pototo chip if he put them up for a vote.


Everything that you just said here, you don't have any evidence whatsoever about anything, from any person, or anyone. Pretty much all of it is made up! tongue


The evidence is in their actions. See my remarks in red


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Rudy Giuliani: ‘There’s Nothing Wrong With Taking Information From Russians’
The president’s lawyer also called Mitt Romney a “hypocrite” and said the Utah senator should “stop this pious act.”
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Rudy Giuliani, who as President Donald Trump’s attorney has stoutly defended his client’s actions throughout every twist and turn as Russian interference in the 2016 presidential campaign was investigated, insisted on Sunday “there’s nothing wrong” with a White House candidate accepting help from Russia.

The former New York mayor was asked on CNN’s “State of the Union”program to respond to Sen. Mitt Romney’s (R-Utah) scathing criticism of Trump following the release of Special Counsel Bob Mueller’s report on the interference, saying he was appalled that the president’s campaign team “welcomed help from Russia.”

Giuliani called Romney, who ran for president in 2008 and 2012 and in the later years was the GOP nominee, a “hypocrite,” and he defended the use by a campaign of information obtained illegally by a foreign power.

“There’s nothing wrong with taking information from Russians... It depends on where it comes from,” he said.

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“I could tell you the things he wanted to do... Stop this pious act that you weren’t trying to dig up dirt on people,” Giuliani said.

“Any candidate in the whole world in America would take information,” he continued. “I’d like to take a good look at Romney’s campaign and see if there are any moral or unethical things done by the people working for him that he didn’t know about. If there weren’t, then it was the only campaign in history.”

“State of the Union” host Jake Tapper pressed Giuliani on whether, as a candidate, he would accept information from Russians damaging to a challenger.

“I probably wouldn’t. I wasn’t asked” about that by the Trump campaign, Giuliani responded. “I would have advised, just out of an excess of caution, don’t do it.”

But he added that in doing so, “there’s no crime.”

He then said, “We’re going to get into morality? That isn’t what prosecutors look at — morality.”

Some of the Mueller report’s most damning findings about the president’s campaign were that Trump tried to cover up the now-infamous meeting in mid-2016 at New York’s Trump Tower between Russian agents and members of his inner circle. The report also said that as president, Trump asked aides to interfere with Mueller’s investigation ― which could be construed as obstruction of justice.

Romney, one of the few vocal GOP critics of Trump’s administration, said that though he was happy the findings didn’t justify charging the president with any crimes, he was “sickened” by the report’s various revelations.

“I am sickened at the extent and pervasiveness of dishonesty and misdirection by individuals in the highest office of the land, including the President,” Romney wrote.

Preet Bharara, the former U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York, said in a separate Sunday interview on CNN he was alarmed by the message the president’s attorney was sending to future candidates that it’s “right and proper and American” to accept help from a foreign adversary.

“That’s an extraordinary statement and I would hope he would retract it,” Bharara said.

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Rudy Giuliani: ‘There’s Nothing Wrong With Taking Information From Russians’
The president’s lawyer also called Mitt Romney a “hypocrite” and said the Utah senator should “stop this pious act.”
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Rudy Giuliani, who as President Donald Trump’s attorney has stoutly defended his client’s actions throughout every twist and turn as Russian interference in the 2016 presidential campaign was investigated, insisted on Sunday “there’s nothing wrong” with a White House candidate accepting help from Russia.

The former New York mayor was asked on CNN’s “State of the Union”program to respond to Sen. Mitt Romney’s (R-Utah) scathing criticism of Trump following the release of Special Counsel Bob Mueller’s report on the interference, saying he was appalled that the president’s campaign team “welcomed help from Russia.”

Giuliani called Romney, who ran for president in 2008 and 2012 and in the later years was the GOP nominee, a “hypocrite,” and he defended the use by a campaign of information obtained illegally by a foreign power.

“There’s nothing wrong with taking information from Russians... It depends on where it comes from,” he said.

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“I could tell you the things he wanted to do... Stop this pious act that you weren’t trying to dig up dirt on people,” Giuliani said.

“Any candidate in the whole world in America would take information,” he continued. “I’d like to take a good look at Romney’s campaign and see if there are any moral or unethical things done by the people working for him that he didn’t know about. If there weren’t, then it was the only campaign in history.”

“State of the Union” host Jake Tapper pressed Giuliani on whether, as a candidate, he would accept information from Russians damaging to a challenger.

“I probably wouldn’t. I wasn’t asked” about that by the Trump campaign, Giuliani responded. “I would have advised, just out of an excess of caution, don’t do it.”

But he added that in doing so, “there’s no crime.”

He then said, “We’re going to get into morality? That isn’t what prosecutors look at — morality.”

Some of the Mueller report’s most damning findings about the president’s campaign were that Trump tried to cover up the now-infamous meeting in mid-2016 at New York’s Trump Tower between Russian agents and members of his inner circle. The report also said that as president, Trump asked aides to interfere with Mueller’s investigation ― which could be construed as obstruction of justice.

Romney, one of the few vocal GOP critics of Trump’s administration, said that though he was happy the findings didn’t justify charging the president with any crimes, he was “sickened” by the report’s various revelations.

“I am sickened at the extent and pervasiveness of dishonesty and misdirection by individuals in the highest office of the land, including the President,” Romney wrote.

Preet Bharara, the former U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York, said in a separate Sunday interview on CNN he was alarmed by the message the president’s attorney was sending to future candidates that it’s “right and proper and American” to accept help from a foreign adversary.

“That’s an extraordinary statement and I would hope he would retract it,” Bharara said.


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Mueller report exposes diminishing power of Trump denials

The report has reignited a media debate about how seriously to take the White House's statements of fact.

President Donald Trump wants New York Times journalists to beg for forgiveness on their knees, and White House aides say they’re ready to accept apologies from the press corps at large.

They’re in for a long wait.

Special counsel Robert Mueller’s bombshell 448-page report has unleashed a very different kind of reckoning among Washington reporters and media watchdogs.

The report detailed multiple efforts by Trump and his senior aides to mislead journalists and the public, reigniting a long-running media debate about how to cover such an unprecedented presidency — and when, if ever, to accept White House denials at face value.

The repeated public rejections of key aspects of the report in the face of sworn, on-the-record statements from his own advisers have diminished the power of a denial from the president of the United States — something that once carried weight.

“Reporters have to start assuming that this White House is going to continue to lie and manipulate the media,” Columbia Journalism Review editor-in-chief Kyle Pope said in an interview. Pope, who said some news organizations were too slow to challenge official White House statements, added: “The dealings with the White House have to be reframed given what we now know about them.”

Pope even questioned the value of quoting or interviewing Trump’s principal spokesperson, White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders, who admitted to Mueller’s investigators that she made unfounded claims that the ousted FBI director James Comey had lost support among rank-and-file agents. Sanders later tried to defend her statement, saying the “sentiment” was accurate without offering any proof to support her claim.

“I don’t think Sanders has any credibility whatsoever,” he said.

Sanders did not immediately respond to a request for comment. But she and other White House officials have denounced the media for focusing so much of their attention on the Russia investigation, with some calling on them to apologize. Trump bashed The New York Times on Twitter today, calling on them to “get down on their knees & beg for forgiveness.”

Trump and his staffers have responded to the Mueller report with nearly simultaneous claims of vindication and frustration. The president’s delight that Mueller was unable to establish that the Trump campaign conspired with Russia to interfere in the 2016 election has been quickly replaced with rage.

After initially claiming “total exoneration,” the president now calls some of the report’s findings “total bulls--t,” and he has bashed ex-staffers who supplied detailed notes about crucial behind-the-scenes moments at the White House. Trump is particularly furious with former White House counsel Don McGahn, who told investigators that Trump repeatedly told him to oust Mueller, a directive he ignored. The president denies McGahn’s assertion, although Mueller found ample evidence to substantiate it.

“Journalists shouldn't take anything said by any president at face value, but the Mueller report reminds us that this president in particular says so many things that are flatly untrue that we shouldn't trust anything without checking it,” said veteran New York Times White House reporter Peter Baker.

“And we didn't even need Mueller to tell us that,” Baker added. “Every White House reporter has experienced it over the last couple years. Time after time, he has denied things that were confirmed elsewhere.”

Increasingly, White House reporters publish blockbuster stories in the face of denials from administration officials and the president himself, standing by their reporting when Trump complains on Twitter. Earlier this month, for example, Trump denied reports that he had offered then-Customs and Border Protection Commissioner Kevin McAleenan a pardon had he been jailed for illegally blocking migrant from entering the country.

“I never offered Pardons to Homeland Security Officials, never ordered anyone to close our Southern Border (although I have the absolute right to do so, and may if Mexico does not apprehend the illegals coming to our Border), and am not ‘frustrated,’” Trump wrote on Twitter in response to the reports. “It is all Fake & Corrupt News!”

The news outlets that reported those stories continue to firmly stand behind their reporting.

Trump’s team also initially denied playing any role in the hush-money payments to Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal. The Wall Street Journal published a series of stories on the payments, eventually reporting last year that Trump played a “central role” in the payments.

Privately, White House reporters said they felt vindicated by Mueller’s report, noting that it supported much of their reporting about the president over the past two years. They have no plans to apologize for their coverage.

But that hasn’t stopped Trump and his aides from calling for journalists to beg for forgiveness.

"We're accepting apologies today, too, for anybody who feels the grace in offering them,” Kellyanne Conway, a senior Trump adviser, told reporters last week.

An increasingly agitated Trump let loose on Twitter on Tuesday morning, asserting that Democrats and the media “have gone totally insane!”

“I wonder if the New York Times will apologize to me a second time, as they did after the 2016 Election. But this one will have to be a far bigger & better apology,” Trump tweeted on Tuesday morning. “On this one they will have to get down on their knees & beg for forgiveness-they are truly the Enemy of the People!” The New York Times has not apologized to the president for its 2016 coverage.

Some reporters reject the notion that their coverage of the president should be more aggressive in light of the revelations in the Mueller report, noting that reporters have already taken an adversarial approach to reporting on the White House.

Asked whether reporters’ approach to White House coverage should change in the aftermath of the report, Bob Woodward said, “I don’t think so. I think, by and large, people have maintained their aggressive edge.”

Woodward, in an interview, added that reporters should focus less on allegations of Russian collusion and more on what he called the “governing crisis” created by the internal chaos in the White House. Issues like Trump’s policy toward Iran are deeply consequential and warrant deeper scrutiny from the press, he said.

The veteran Washington Post reporter noted that he was unable to uncover evidence that Trump and his campaign colluded with Russia while reporting his best-selling book about the president.

“People were applying the Watergate template, saying this is Watergate,” Woodward said. “Well, it’s not yet and it may not be.”

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/23/mueller-report-trump-denials-1287870

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Trumps lies are being believed less and less. Only the braindead are still buying his BS.

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