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Palpatine tried to will The Force to create a dark side being. Instead, The Force created Anakin to go take down Palpatine. Link ------------ This then makes me think that maybe Rey is the result of something similar Palpatine tried to do during ROTJ in-case Vader fell, yet it backfired on him yet again.
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(okay, I'll add my biggest reason - when Vice Admiral Holdo turned the ship around and destroyed an entire fleet with her light speed attack...if that were possible, just send two or three ships at the Death Star in all previous movies, boom, movie over). Nothing in these movies are real or possible. So it you didn't like that part because it wasn't "possible", you really shouldn't be watching the movie to begin with. . . . .
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I just thought of something...with the name being "Rise of Skywalker" and Palpatine also being involved, could we finally learn the true origins of Anakin Skywalker? The real event that led to the "Rise of Skywalker." I think it has all been determined that Palpatine created Anakin. I try to follow the Star Wars saga but it's hard with all the ways they tell the story that is considered canon. One way they tell the story is through comic books, which I don't read, but I think I saw something online that said this was addressed before. That essentially this is the Star Wars version of the Immaculate Conception compliments of Darth Sidious.
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(okay, I'll add my biggest reason - when Vice Admiral Holdo turned the ship around and destroyed an entire fleet with her light speed attack...if that were possible, just send two or three ships at the Death Star in all previous movies, boom, movie over). Nothing in these movies are real or possible. So it you didn't like that part because it wasn't "possible", you really shouldn't be watching the movie to begin with. . . . . Why should I not be watching a movie? Do you think I have an objection that mass can't travel as fast as light? I can accept a space ship can travel near, at or faster than light within the framework of the Star Wars movies. I'm objecting to the way Holdo used her ship to destroy an entire fleet by ramming it at that speed. By doing that, IMO, Rian Johnson broke the tension in at least three or more of the previous SW movies. I'm fine with the possibility of it, but using it was a bad idea. One ship traveling near, at or beyond light speed would have destroyed the Death Star in episodes 4, 6 and 7. If you have that "magic bullet" at your disposal but don't use it until episode 8, you destroy the conflict in earlier movies. Are you telling me Holdo was the first to attempt ramming something at light speed when so many star systems had access to that technology? If a new LotR trilogy came out in a decade and they used the eagles to travel around freely and hide from a reborn Sauron, that would break the way Frodo needed to travel on foot to Mount Doom. IMO, it's universe breaking. You can't undermine the previous movies like that.
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When making a movie, the main goal should be to tell a good story. If you want to push an agenda, that needs to be secondary to telling a good story.
Rey shows tremendous abilities without any training, she should not be able to do these things. She seems to gain these talents with no work, no effort, like magic. Luke and others had to work and train.
The fight with Snoke's guards is one of the worst fight scenes recently made, on par with the fight with the Sand Snakes in GOT. These are supposed to be elite guards. It was poorly done, and was made to push an agenda, not to advance the story..
The light-speed ramming attack is not consistent with the established rules of the Star Wars universe. Space combat has been around for a very long time, and no one else has ever done this? It was a cheap trick, done to push an agenda, not for the story.
Women can be good fighters, women can devise brilliant strategies. BUT, these do not come from magic, they come from training and hard work and talent.
The hugely unrealistic SuperWoman agenda being pushed is primary to telling a good story, and the story suffers.
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(okay, I'll add my biggest reason - when Vice Admiral Holdo turned the ship around and destroyed an entire fleet with her light speed attack...if that were possible, just send two or three ships at the Death Star in all previous movies, boom, movie over). Nothing in these movies are real or possible. So it you didn't like that part because it wasn't "possible", you really shouldn't be watching the movie to begin with. . . . . Why should I not be watching a movie? Do you think I have an objection that mass can't travel as fast as light? I can accept a space ship can travel near, at or faster than light within the framework of the Star Wars movies. I'm objecting to the way Holdo used her ship to destroy an entire fleet by ramming it at that speed. By doing that, IMO, Rian Johnson broke the tension in at least three or more of the previous SW movies. I'm fine with the possibility of it, but using it was a bad idea. One ship traveling near, at or beyond light speed would have destroyed the Death Star in episodes 4, 6 and 7. If you have that "magic bullet" at your disposal but don't use it until episode 8, you destroy the conflict in earlier movies. Are you telling me Holdo was the first to attempt ramming something at light speed when so many star systems had access to that technology? If a new LotR trilogy came out in a decade and they used the eagles to travel around freely and hide from a reborn Sauron, that would break the way Frodo needed to travel on foot to Mount Doom. IMO, it's universe breaking. You can't undermine the previous movies like that. I think, its a movie made for entertainment - not for some to try to etch our the innerworkings of quantum speed and physics. Sit back, relax, enjoy yourself. It was a cool sequence, stay off reddit.
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Again, you’re not reading my point. I have no problem with the physics of it. And I’ve never been on reddit.
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I'm still going to have to disagree with you heavily. I know you love to watch the same Star Wars stories and characters over and over. They are different movies but I can't tell.
Rey is a safe character to me. She's very predictable and doesn't do anything that surprises me. Her and some of the other characters as well, I didn't see them go through the internal\external struggle. Everything that you mentioned didn't feel like a real legitimate hardship. It was put there in the movie, lasted 20 minutes, then boom it was over and never to be heard about again.
I want to see characters go through suffering, conflict, or heave to go through ordeals because that is part of what makes a story compelling. If most things are easy for the character, or he\she just overcomes everything without much opposition, who wants to watch that?
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(okay, I'll add my biggest reason - when Vice Admiral Holdo turned the ship around and destroyed an entire fleet with her light speed attack...if that were possible, just send two or three ships at the Death Star in all previous movies, boom, movie over). Nothing in these movies are real or possible. So it you didn't like that part because it wasn't "possible", you really shouldn't be watching the movie to begin with. . . . . Nooners saying it’s real. They introduced the light speed attack into the Star Wars universe. It’s possible in Star Wars. They made it a kill shot. Others would have used. It’s a glaring inconsistency. Like fuel. Seven episodes and Rogue One and no one ever mentioned fuel. In episode 8 it was a major problem.
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