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The highly anticipated final season of Game of Thrones begins tonight at 9 PM Eastern Time. We can discuss here.

I read somewhere that season one would provide clues as to what is going to happen in the final season. I have re-watched most of them and will try to watch the others.

The first episode of Season 1 was entitled Winter is Coming. That episode seemed to suggest that Bran might end up coming out of all this on top. That seems hard to believe and not a desirable outcome, but it was there.

Arya is going to kill Cersei if this season is an indicator. I also think the Dire Wolves will play a role, but I thought most of them had been killed.

Of course, the White Walkers are a wildcard that could change everything.

Do you guys have any thoughts on what might happen?

I re-watched all of the seasons. Before I begin, have you watched all of them?

I watched them in the past. I have not re-watched them, other than the first 6 in Season 1.

If the white walkers win the I think bran ends up being the knight king... if good guys win then john and dani will rule the seven kingdoms... I'm leaning towards this...

Can't wait!! I'm predicting that cerci will loose her baby at some point causing her to go nuts and try to burn down the city... Jamie will stop her but then most likely will die for it... I'm praying no more starks die... but knowing the show at least one or two probably will... my guess is I feel one dies it'll be Sansa...but truly hope they all make it...

Should be an interesting season... I read that at least one main character dies tonight...

Pretty good episode... glad Jon finally knows who he is... rand st of it noting surprising happened... was disappointed no one major died... the umber boy scene was pretty epic...

Nothing too interesting happened in this episode.

That was a fun start.

But I bet it is building to a climax for the finale. Though nothing interesting it seems, it will build up and everybody will be surprised. Just hope the finale does not let anybody down.

SPOILERS

Other then being told the truth of his lineage, yeah, nothing else much happened. I'm surprised, with only six episodes I figured the action would be non-stop.

Sode #2 has to get crazy.

It's going to be a showdown between Snow's people wanting him as king versus Dany. Jon will be torn and that will probably be the conflict of this season. However, maybe Samwell hinted at a possible ending of that conflict.

They needed to bring everyone up to speed and really set up the story. I think that's why there wasn't a lot of "action" per se. But man, think of the storylines to come. They really set it up well.

I think Tyrion knows that Cersei ain't comin'. If you remember, in the last episode from last season, they had a private meeting and we don't know what they talked about. Last night, he was talking about how she's coming, but he didn't seem all that convinced himself. And then later when Sansa said she was disappointed because she thought he was so clever, I think he knew something that he couldn't say.

I think it will be very interesting to see how Jon and Dany's relationship changes now. Not only because he knows he's the rightful heir, but because now he realizes he's in love with and sleeping with a family member. How does he reconcile that in his mind? I really have no idea what will happen there.

I watch the episodes with 2 friends and we text with another friend who lives out of town. We have a pool going on who ends up on the Iron Throne. I guessed Jamie Lannister, solely because I wanted to pick someone totally out of left field.

Also, we predicted that at least one of the more major characters will die in the next episode. We narrowed it down to Beric Dondarrion, Davos Seaworth, or Theon Grejoy. They're relatively major characters, but not quite top-tier like a Jon or Arya, etc.

But man, this show gives us so many different options.

Love Taboo. Glad to know there’s a timeline for its return.

j/c:

"60 Minutes" goes behind the scenes on "Game of Thrones"

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-...nes-2019-04-14/

Just in case you don't know, here are the runtimes:

Episode One 54 Minutes
Episode Two 58 Minutes
Episode Three 82 Minutes
Episode Four 78 Minutes
Episode Five 79 Minutes
Episode Six 79 Minutes

I think that means that Episode 2 will have a lot of fast and furious action. I will be surprised if it's another "story" episode.

j/c:

I just watched the first episode. I was too drunk to watch it last night. LOL

I enjoyed the episode and prefer character development over violence on the battlefield.

It's going to be interesting to see how Daenerys reacts to the news of Jon. The other thing is that since she is his aunt and an incestuous relationship led to the birth of the Mad King.........well, you get it.

I think the exchange between Jon and Arya about "We are family" and "I hope you don't forget it." Which "house" will he choose if it comes down to it.

Sansa's transformation is fascinating. Also, Bran [while I don't care for him] is key to many things. Of course, I could be Captain Obvious here. LOL

I don't think Dany will have a problem with being romantically involved with Jon at all, even being his aunt. Targaryens have been marrying in the family dating back to Aegon the Conqueror. Heck, Dany's own parents were brother and sister!

Maybe they will jointly rule, as King and Queen. Turn that throne into a loveseat.

I don't think the story would allow it (assuming you weren't just being funny). Meaning, that doesn't create tension. Dany will still want the throne despite hearing the truth (or will question it's validity).

I'm not a huge fan of the series, I just binge-watched it in December. I think it's good or maybe very good, not great. I think I can be swayed depending on the ending though. They've been building to this Cersei versus "Jon and Dany romance+rightful claim to the throne" thing, so I want to be blown away. The ending/payoff has to be as good or better then the setup IMO.

Yes, Dany will submit to no one, as she made him bend the knee.

Although they now had the sex and the romantic dragon date, maybe her hard edges will soften.

I honestly cant see an ending where its just him or her on the throne. They are tied together now.

I'd guess there will be some conflict before they realize they should rule together.

That's my logical theory. However, this show is pretty unpredictable.

I think there is a good chance both will be killed.

Does anyone remember what happened to youngest Stark boy? I re-watched Season 1 to get a feel for what will happen in the Final season and he was a rather mysterious character. Has he been killed?

He was killed at the Battle of the Bastards by Ramsay Snow. Made him try to run to Jon and then shot him with an arrow.

Zig zag Rickon!

Yeah, don't run in a straight line when a dude is shooting arrows at you. Mix it up!

I always just assume they are going to kill off someone that I really like, or someone who will make everyone feel good. This show likes to rip out your soul.

Like I could see Dany killing Jon (or vice versa) at the end. Not wanting to, but needing to for peace in the realm. And then, after doing it, Cersei moves in and kills the survivor to steal the throne. Or somehow Euron Greyjoy taking the throne.

Whatever is going to be totally unsatisfactory and leave me with a bad taste in my mouth, that's what will happen.

j/c:

Another disappointing episode ever since the show writers no longer have GRRM material to leverage.

Thanks.

Maybe an odd question, I can't remember if I asked you all or just my wife, why is it such a big deal if Dany or Jon think they have a rightful claim to the throne? Cersei took the throne without any due process, right? Everyone knows her kids weren't the king's offspring, so why is she even allowed to sit on it now? And if the people are allowing her to be queen, what would it matter if Jon shows up with a book with an obscure story and secret that he's the true air?

Meaning, the whole story is about him being the rightful air, opposed to Dany, but if the people of the 7 kingdoms don't care enough to toss Cersei out on her butt, what is all the build up for?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2_w-QCWpS0

Peter Falk, Alan Arkin "The In-Laws"
"Serpentine, Shel- serpentine!"

That's exactly what I said to my friends when we were trying to decide who ends up on the Throne. One friend said she thought maybe Sansa, and another friend asked what claim Sansa had? I said that Robert didn't have any claim. Everyone worries about who is next in line, but it's really just "whoever takes it and holds it."

Now, maybe whoever has the rightful claim can get support from other people who maybe wouldn't otherwise give it.

But hell, Bronn could take the Throne if he just kills enough and allies himself enough.

Plot twist...

Drogon and Rhaegal conspire and burn all the supposed heir to the throne. The two of them take over the Seven Kingdoms. They have a child.
CBS starts a sitcom spinoff show.... Two and a Half Dragons. Charlie Sheen voice acts for Drogon.

Cersei was the queen, and the Regent to successor to King Robert, her sons, which the general public would have nothing but rumors that the boys are not Roberts.

The show makes it appear that it is common knowledge to everyone, but that would typically be far from the truth, and a well hidden secret.

Even in the first season, Cersei and Jamie were sneaking off the to the tower in Winterfell to fool around when Bran caught them.

Yeah, but Cersei would inherit the Throne due to Robert's death. And Robert didn't have any claim to the Throne. He just took it.

So why couldn't someone else just take it?

Maybe a Brienne of Tarth/Tormund Giantsbane joint venture?

Not sure anyone else had an army capable of taking it from Robert. Jamie was out in the battle fields early on in the series, fighting enemies I suppose were opposed to Robert having the thrown.

Other would fall in line, to avoid any backlash, until they felt they could usurp him.

The book series, if I recall correctly, provide far more context about this. Leading up to Robert's Rebellion, there were discussions behind closed doors which were led by The Mad King's eldest son, Rhaegar, but included many of the top Houses in Westeros to useat his father as King because he was clearly losing his mind (a trait commonly found in Targaryans because of their incestuous relationships). Doing it swiftly and quietly with some dignity would allow no bloodshed and Rhaegar to take over as King. But once Rhaegar ran off with Lyanna Stark (betrothed to Robert) some time later and The Mad King killed both Eddard Stark's father and older brother for wanting Lyanna back and for Rhaegar to answer to his crimes of "kidnapping", that kick started the Rebellion led by Robert and Ned. The justification behind Robert and his alledged claim to the Throne to unseat the Targaryans was that his grandmother was a Targaryan, so in theory, some of the bloodline would remain. That, coupled with the fact that House Baratheon was started by a Targaryan bastard.

** pushes up glasses at the bridge with his finger **

Has this replaced dropping the mic? I like it.

I agree, because microphones are to expensive to be dropping, soundguys nightmare when someone wants to be trendy.

I think everyone knows that Cersei is going to use the upcoming opportunity to try and defeat her challengers, but what about Tyrion? Is he going to remain faithful to Daenerys and Jon, or will he try to exploit the situation and move to the head of the Lannister household?

This episode was really good.