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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Just exactly how Black will that there baby be?
Inquiring minds want to know.

I loved all of the comments on Twitter about the LA Times poll on whether the baby will be raised black.. mostly from other blacks asking the question "What does that even mean?"

I just had this image of the Prince at 6 years old walking through the palace with dreads, his belt below his arse, and some Kendrick Lamar jamming.. plus whatever other "raised to be black" stereotypes you can come up with.


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The only thing that saved these kids in this classroom from death, was themselves. Not the police, not the teachers, not armed guards, not their parents, or the principle or school system. Nope ... nobody but themselves. Sad. Everyone has let them down so they need to fight for their lives on their own now.


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Colorado students walk out of school shooting vigil after politicians take the mic

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Colorado students walk out of school shooting vigil
Students who survived a mass shooting at a suburban Denver school walked out of a vigil for a slain student in anger and tears.

Students in Colorado stormed out of a vigil Wednesday night for the victims of this week’s school shooting at STEM School Highlands Ranch after two Democratic politicians took the stage and called for gun control, according to local news reports.

The two Democrats who spoke at the vigil were Colorado Sen. Michael Bennet, who is running for president, and Rep. Jason Crow, whose congressional district includes STEM.

COLORADO SCHOOL SHOOTING LEAVES AT LEAST 1 DEAD, 8 INJURED
“STEM School students walked out of a vigil tonight after @RepJasonCrow & @SenatorBennet spoke,” tweeted Kyle Clark, an anchor with 9NEWS in Denver. “Students said their grief was being politicized. They later returned, took the mic, and some said they didn't want to be used to promote gun control.”

About 2,000 people packed a high school gym Wednesday night to remember 18-year-old Kendrick Castillo, who was shot and killed trying to tackle one of the shooters at STEM School Highlands Ranch on Tuesday.
Authorities have credited Castillo and two classmates with stopping the attack. Eight others were injured in the shooting.

According to the Denver Post, some of the students who walked out of the vigil on Wednesday night were chanting “mental health.”


The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, which helped to organize the vigil, later released a statement apologizing to the offended students.

“We are deeply sorry any part of this vigil did not provide the support, caring and sense of community we sought to foster and facilitate and which we know is so crucial to communities who suffer the trauma of gun violence,” the group said.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/colorad...s-take-the-mics

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Just exactly how Black will that there baby be?
Inquiring minds want to know.

I loved all of the comments on Twitter about the LA Times poll on whether the baby will be raised black.. mostly from other blacks asking the question "What does that even mean?"

I just had this image of the Prince at 6 years old walking through the palace with dreads, his belt below his arse, and some Kendrick Lamar jamming.. plus whatever other "raised to be black" stereotypes you can come up with.


Well with the name Archie Harrison Mountbatten-Windsor, we are off to an interesting start.

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This is as far as I got on that third story:

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Police: Utah man dead after teen attacks him for sex assault cops say didn't happen
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Published: May 7, 2019 6:01 pm

LOGAN — A 62-year-old man is dead after police say a 17-year-old boy attacked him for sexually assaulting his younger sister, though investigators found video footage that showed the assault never occurred.

On April 23 about 3 p.m., the 16-year-old girl said Michael Fife, 62, sexually assaulted her while the two were on a Cache Valley Transit District bus, according to Logan police.

The girl immediately called her 17-year-old brother and told him about the alleged assault, police said.

Minutes later, police said the brother located Fife getting off the bus near 300 South and 100 West, ran toward him and assaulted him.

Fife fell to the sidewalk, suffered head injuries and was left unconscious, while the brother fled on foot, according to police.

A witness called police and paramedics to the scene. Fife was transported to Logan Hospital and was later transferred to McKay-Dee Hospital, police said.

At 6:15 p.m., the 16-year-old girl called police to report the sexual assault she said occurred on the bus.

Logan police detectives reviewed video footage of the incident that showed Fife walking past the girl, but authorities said no sexual assault occurred.

On April 27, police said Fife died of his injuries.

The case is still under investigation, police said. The names of the juveniles were not released.

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99-year-old WWII veteran gets birthday wish to walk across stage at commencement

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Posted May 03 2019 12:12PM EDT


WINSTON-SALEM, N.C. (FOX 46 CHARLOTTE) - A North Carolina World War II veteran is getting her wish for her 99th birthday -- the chance to walk across the stage at graduation.

In 1943, Elizabeth Barker Johnson made history. She enlsited in the U.S Army, becoming a member of the 6888th regiment, the only all-female, African American Women’s Army Corps battalion to serve overseas during World War II.

After the war, she made history again as the first woman to enroll at Winston-Salem Teachers College, now Winston-Salem State University, on the GI Bill. She earned a degree in education in August 1949.

Nearly 70 years after earning her degree, she's getting her wish.

The World War II veteran was surprised at a 99th birthday party with a gift from her alma mater, a WSSU red cap and gown that she will wear at the ceremony at Winston-Salem’s Lawrence Joel Veterans Memorial Coliseum, where she’ll share the stage with Rams from the class of 2019.

"I’m going to think I’m dreaming,” Johnson said.

Johnson started teaching in Virginia immediately after graduating from WSSU. She couldn’t find someone to substitute for her on graduation day, so she missed the commencement ceremony.

In addition to serving her country, Johnson taught public school for 18 years, the bulk of her time in North Carolina.

“From serving her country during World War II to impacting the lives of hundreds of students as a classroom teacher in North Carolina and Virginia, PFC Elizabeth Barker Johnson is the embodiment of Winston-Salem State’s motto, ‘Enter to Learn. Depart to Serve,’ ” said Elwood L. Robinson, WSSU chancellor. “We are inspired by her and excited to give her the opportunity, 70 years later, to finally walk across stage for commencement.”

She's set to walk on May 10. Congratulations!

Good on her!!!


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Originally Posted By: Swish
Atleast liberals have a plan to do something. It’s better than the typical “no” we get from people like you, while offering no solutions of your own.



You have absolutely zero plan for anything!

Your response every time a school shooting happens is "How do we take away Americans guns."


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Atleast liberals have a plan to do something. It’s better than the typical “no” we get from people like you, while offering no solutions of your own.



You have absolutely zero plan for anything!

Your response every time a school shooting happens is "How do we take away Americans guns."


again, a much better plan than no plan at all. but TB is cool with kids getting popped in school so im not surprised.


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Yeah, infringing upon the 2nd amendment of the constitution of the United States sure is a great plan.

You don't have a plan if what you're advocating for is ineffective and takes away rights. Get out of here with your cynical rhetoric about not caring for kids either. Not my problem you have to resort to that because you can't back up your thoughts.

Your plan is to take away constitutional rights instead of looking into the deeper issues of mental health and recent cultural problems. Get out of here with that crap!


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man do you know how many times we ALL have given our thoughts? lol please.

just because you dont agree with the plan doesnt mean it isn’t a plan. you know what ISNT a plan? not doing anything.

like you and others advocate.


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So, since it is illegal to take a gun onto school grounds.
Since it is illegal for an underage person to possess a gun.
Since it is illegal to conceal a gun without proper permits.

Since all of these laws have failed in preventing these tragedies and you have come to realize new gun laws will fail as well, YOU want to take Constitutional Rights away from every citizen?

pfft. Move to Moscow already!

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Have they? Or have the....lol, “law abiding citizens” failed at not allowing their kids easy access to their weapons?

Bet you the school shootings start to go down once you start jailing the negligent parents when their kids goes ape crap.


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You Libs have indoctrinated and medicated a whole generation of our children so they would behave like zombies in school, now you cry they go ape crap?

Paaa-Leeze!

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Lol, please. That was the baby boomers and generation X losers who decided that spankings were bad.

Let me know how that leash training is going with little Timmy. Hope you don’t lose him in Walmart again.


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You don't get to wave the constitution in anyone's face while supporting Trump. He craps on the constitution daily.

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man do you know how many times we ALL have given our thoughts? lol please.

just because you dont agree with the plan doesnt mean it isn’t a plan. you know what ISNT a plan? not doing anything.

like you and others advocate.


But a plan that is supposed to be a solution but doesn't actually provide a solution isn't really a plan is it?

The problem with the "plans" that liberals have that you allude to is that they lack depth, thought, and substance. You criticize people for simply saying No those plans, but that's not true. Prior to saying No they ask 2 questions:

1) how is this supposed to solve the problem?
2) how does this limit gov't abuse?

Your liberals can never answer either of those 2 questions and so, get the answer of No.


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again, asking questions that we've given answers to throughout the many threads relating to this issue.

ill take my plan over your do nothing plan. period. don't like the liberal plan? then actually come up with a solution of your own.

til then, what you're saying is going in one ear and out the other.


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So, since it is illegal to take a gun onto school grounds.
Since it is illegal for an underage person to possess a gun.
Since it is illegal to conceal a gun without proper permits.

Since all of these laws have failed in preventing these tragedies and you have come to realize new gun laws will fail as well, YOU want to take Constitutional Rights away from every citizen?

pfft. Move to Moscow already!


And since speed limits fail to limit the speed at which people drive ... and since drug enforcement fails to stop people from taking illegal drugs, and since DUI laws fail to stop people from drinking while influenced ..... we should simply stop trying to improve those areas of law and order too .... that's what your argument says. Just give up because some people break the law already willynilly willynilly notallthere notallthere


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So, since it is illegal to take a gun onto school grounds.
Since it is illegal for an underage person to possess a gun.
Since it is illegal to conceal a gun without proper permits.

Since all of these laws have failed in preventing these tragedies and you have come to realize new gun laws will fail as well, YOU want to take Constitutional Rights away from every citizen?

pfft. Move to Moscow already!


And since speed limits fail to limit the speed at which people drive ... and since drug enforcement fails to stop people from taking illegal drugs, and since DUI laws fail to stop people from drinking while influenced ..... we should simply stop trying to improve those areas of law and order too .... that's what your argument says. Just give up because some people break the law already willynilly willynilly notallthere notallthere


Ok, using those analogies, are you saying we need lower speed limits, more stringent drug laws and to change the OVI standards? We don't do a good enough job enforcing what is already there, new legislation isn't going to change anything.


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After murder rate passes NYC, London Mayor Sadiq Khan calls for sharper knife control

London Mayor Sadiq Khan announced a crackdown on knives Sunday in response to the rising levels of violence in London, which recently surpassed New York City's homicide rate for the first time.

"No excuses: there is never a reason to carry a knife," Khan tweeted. "Anyone who does will be caught, and they will feel the full force of the law."

Guns are strictly regulated in the United Kingdom and the rising homicide rate in London is directly attributable to a rise in knife-related crimes, with stabbings claiming at least 31 lives to date in 2018. By contrast, New York — which has a population roughly the same size as London — has seen a steady decline in violent crime.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/04/09/london-mayor-knife-control/500328002/

When will the Left come to the understanding it is not the tool but the heart of man that is the problem?

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Chicago is in the USA right?


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So Pelosi had an Imam come in and give opening prayers for Ramadan at the Congress.. The Imam has called gay relationships "a disease"... while her minions are out boycotting Chick-fil-A...

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DevilDawg is 100% correct on this.

Democrats want some quick buck solution which is not a real solution and will not work at all in our country. To me if you're against the 2nd amendment then that is anti-American.

To come up with a comprehensive solution requires thought, logic, and looking through many different options, seeing what does work, what doesn't, and not operating on just emotion. This is something that democrats are not usually good at.


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So, since it is illegal to take a gun onto school grounds.
Since it is illegal for an underage person to possess a gun.
Since it is illegal to conceal a gun without proper permits.

Since all of these laws have failed in preventing these tragedies and you have come to realize new gun laws will fail as well, YOU want to take Constitutional Rights away from every citizen?

pfft. Move to Moscow already!


And since speed limits fail to limit the speed at which people drive ... and since drug enforcement fails to stop people from taking illegal drugs, and since DUI laws fail to stop people from drinking while influenced ..... we should simply stop trying to improve those areas of law and order too .... that's what your argument says. Just give up because some people break the law already willynilly willynilly notallthere notallthere


Ok, using those analogies, are you saying we need lower speed limits, more stringent drug laws and to change the OVI standards? We don't do a good enough job enforcing what is already there, new legislation isn't going to change anything.


Actually using that analogy, the solution would be to get rid of cars. Getting rid of cars would get rid of speeding, ovis and vehicular manslaughter. His whole point is that you cannot police behaviors effectively, at best you can't deter them.

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Originally Posted By: mgh888
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So, since it is illegal to take a gun onto school grounds.
Since it is illegal for an underage person to possess a gun.
Since it is illegal to conceal a gun without proper permits.

Since all of these laws have failed in preventing these tragedies and you have come to realize new gun laws will fail as well, YOU want to take Constitutional Rights away from every citizen?

pfft. Move to Moscow already!




And since speed limits fail to limit the speed at which people drive ... and since drug enforcement fails to stop people from taking illegal drugs, and since DUI laws fail to stop people from drinking while influenced ..... we should simply stop trying to improve those areas of law and order too .... that's what your argument says. Just give up because some people break the law already willynilly willynilly notallthere notallthere


Ok, using those analogies, are you saying we need lower speed limits, more stringent drug laws and to change the OVI standards? We don't do a good enough job enforcing what is already there, new legislation isn't going to change anything.


Actually using that analogy, the solution would be to get rid of cars. Getting rid of cars would get rid of speeding, ovis and vehicular manslaughter. His whole point is that you cannot police behaviors effectively, at best you can't deter them.


Your analogy fails. How often does a person drive a car versus shoot a gun?

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The analogy was: Some people do bad things with cars, so let's ban most all cars.

Same with guns: Some people do bad things with guns, so let's ban most guns.

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The analogy was: Some people do bad things with cars, so let's ban most all cars.

Same with guns: Some people do bad things with guns, so let's ban most guns.


this nonsense again? swear you gun nuts try this BS semi-annually.

a guns inherent purpose to is neutralize/kill an intended target. a car's inherent purpose is to bring a driver from point a to point B.

stop with the false equivalency. yall will get called out every time.


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What have my guns done? Kill deer, legally, and kill woodchucks, legally. And offered me, and others, entertainment and fun shooting clays.

Why should I be penalized for the idiots that do bad things?

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What have my guns done? Kill deer, legally, and kill woodchucks, legally. And offered me, and others, entertainment and fun shooting clays.

Why should I be penalized for the idiots that do bad things?


Mine have killed paper. Paper bad, bullets good!


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Guns don't kill people unless you hit them with one, really really hard.

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same reason millions of muslims got penalized from coming here because of a few bad apples.

the standard is the standard. you want to be protected from them? fine.

i want to be protected from people like you. thats a good analogy.


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Terrible analogy.

I've never been asked to be protected from muslims. From the bad apple muslims? Yes.

There's a difference.

I don't know why you'd want to be protected from me. What have I done?

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well guess what? i want to be protected from the bad gun owners.

the solution the people you vote for decided that banning entire countries was the solution.

the people i vote for decided that banning guns is the solution.

its the perfect analogy. sorry not sorry.


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Ah. Got it. Thanks for admitting that banning guns is the solution 'your people' want.

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I've been down in Mobile, AL as our company is performing work for the USCG. Caught this story in the hotel lobby a few weeks back from the local news. Blew my mind.....

"Things that you thought would only happen in Super hero action movies are happening everyday," said Pastor Marvin Lue, Jr, Pastor of Stewart Memorial CME Church which sits across from where police believe it happened.

In an email, police wrote, "During an argument, the suspect punched the victim in the face causing his eye to pop out of its socket. The suspect then punched the eyeball causing it to explode."

"Just so horrifying, so horrific, so graphic. It used to be, you get in a fight, you get a black eye, you get hit in the stomach you go home. Now people are losing limbs, people are losing vital organs," Pastor Lue explained.

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So, since it is illegal to take a gun onto school grounds.
Since it is illegal for an underage person to possess a gun.
Since it is illegal to conceal a gun without proper permits.

Since all of these laws have failed in preventing these tragedies and you have come to realize new gun laws will fail as well, YOU want to take Constitutional Rights away from every citizen?

pfft. Move to Moscow already!




And since speed limits fail to limit the speed at which people drive ... and since drug enforcement fails to stop people from taking illegal drugs, and since DUI laws fail to stop people from drinking while influenced ..... we should simply stop trying to improve those areas of law and order too .... that's what your argument says. Just give up because some people break the law already willynilly willynilly notallthere notallthere


Ok, using those analogies, are you saying we need lower speed limits, more stringent drug laws and to change the OVI standards? We don't do a good enough job enforcing what is already there, new legislation isn't going to change anything.


Actually using that analogy, the solution would be to get rid of cars. Getting rid of cars would get rid of speeding, ovis and vehicular manslaughter. His whole point is that you cannot police behaviors effectively, at best you can't deter them.


Your analogy fails. How often does a person drive a car versus shoot a gun?


It's not my analogy. But the point is that you can't police behavior.

I think that we can all agree though that if no one owned any vehicles than it would be impossible for someone to speed, have an ovi, or kill someone with a vehicle.

This post does not mean that I believe that guns should be banned, because I don't believe that. I own guns, I've built guns, I believe that civilians should own guns because our government poses a much larger threat to us than any one civilian could ever.

I believe the problem we face, mass killings would be decimated if we got rid of guns, but it would not get rid of the problem, it would just limit it for a time. But what happens when these people discover bombs or God forbid some sort of biological weapons? Then we'll still have a big problem on our hand. We must fix the problem of alienation if we are to ever get somewhere.

In my mind, banning guns is like chopping off a leg to cure gangrene. Effective, but now you're missing a leg.

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I will just say that I don’t want guns banned at all... Large magazines and quick clip change mechanisms are another story.

When one of these mass killings occurs it is the capacity/size and speed of clip change that impacts the number of victims..

We conflate gun ownership for personal protection with military design features...


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I would rather see parents charged for providing guns to mass murderers. If we are trying to police behavior, then it needs to start with their parents. If we refuse to address problems regarding community, alienation and "mental health" then we should at least make those who provide weapons culpable for the crimes committed with them.

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