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Originally Posted By: Steubenvillian
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Percent chance he beats out Colquitt?


Zero


Colquitt is not a guy Dorsey brought in so its 50/50.


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Browns sign 3 undrafted free agents

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The Cleveland Browns have signed CB Jhavonte Dean, RB Trayone Gray and LB Willie Harvey. All three players participated in the Browns’ rookie minicamp on a tryout basis. Additionally, the team waived RB Darrin Hall, CB Ashton Lampkin and LB Xavier Woodson-Luster.

Dean is 6-1, 185 pounds and a product of Miami (Fla.). The rookie played in 25 games over two seasons as a Hurricane (2017-18), posting 28 tackles, five passes defensed and three interceptions. Prior to Miami, Dean played two seasons (2015-16) at Blinn College before transferring. He’s a native of Homestead, Fla.

Gray, also a Miami Hurricane, measures at 6-1, 233 pounds and played in 29 games during his four-year career at Miami (2014-15, 2017-18). He rushed 60 times for 294 yards and five scores. He grew up in Miami, Fla.

Harvey played in 49 contests at Iowa State from 2015-18, contributing 289 tackles, 12.5 sacks, 11 pass breakups, five forced fumbles, three fumble recoveries and returned one interception for a touchdown. At 5-11, 230 pounds, Harvey received honorable mention All-Big 12 recognition three consecutive seasons from 2016-18 and played in the NFLPA Collegiate Bowl in 2019. Raised in Hastings, Fla., Harvey finished his career at Iowa State ranked eighth in sacks in program history.


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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
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50%

Being left-footed, with strong leg, significantly younger, and cheaper than Colquitt (who i think is good, especially dropping punts inside the 10) gives him a decent chance of winning the competition.



The contract is a huge factor. He also predated John Dorsey.

Bottomline is that if he’s better he should stay.


Absolutely.

Obviously, whether or not he has the leg is not a question - it's what he can do with it; how much control does he have?

If he can control the distance & direction on his kicks with whatever spin/English he wants, then Colquitt is out of a job.

A guy with enough leg to consistently drop the ball inside their 10 from our own 25 is worth his weight in gold.


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Some REALLY nice plays in there. Kid might be something; at the least, he has the football ability to maybe start as a special teams contributor while getting his feet wet in a backup role.


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Just wanted to show off my pick for "UDFA to make the team", Darrin Hall.



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Looks like he may well be this year's Genard Avery.


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Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan
Just wanted to show off my pick for "UDFA to make the team", Darrin Hall.



He was cut.


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I geuss that we liked the Miami guy more.


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Wow. Harvey looks legit.

I know, i know, the competition, small school, etc. SPEED and INSTINCTS don't lie. Looks like a guided missile on a highlight reel... I just wonder if he looks sadly "misguided" on a blooper reel.


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Originally Posted By: Pdawg
Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan
Just wanted to show off my pick for "UDFA to make the team", Darrin Hall.



He was cut.


Wow, that absolutely sucks!


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Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan
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He was cut.


Wow, that absolutely sucks!
I think it's a matter of Hall being too similar to RBs already on the team vs. Gray's projection as filling a blocking back roll.


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Originally Posted By: W84NxtYrAgain
Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan
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He was cut.


Wow, that absolutely sucks!
I think it's a matter of Hall being too similar to RBs already on the team vs. Gray's projection as filling a blocking back roll.


That's one of the things I like about him. He looks a lot like Chubb on the field. If we want a new blocking back, we could have chopped Charles from the roster.


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Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan
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He was cut.


Wow, that absolutely sucks!
I think it's a matter of Hall being too similar to RBs already on the team vs. Gray's projection as filling a blocking back roll.


That's one of the things I like about him. He looks a lot like Chubb on the field. If we want a new blocking back, we could have chopped Charles from the roster.


It seems like Charles and Gray will battle for that spot.

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Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan
Just wanted to show off my pick for "UDFA to make the team", Darrin Hall.

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Browns sign 3 undrafted free agents

https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/bro...medium=referral

The Cleveland Browns have signed CB Jhavonte Dean, RB Trayone Gray and LB Willie Harvey. All three players participated in the Browns’ rookie minicamp on a tryout basis. Additionally, the team waived RB Darrin Hall, CB Ashton Lampkin and LB Xavier Woodson-Luster.

Dean is 6-1, 185 pounds and a product of Miami (Fla.). The rookie played in 25 games over two seasons as a Hurricane (2017-18), posting 28 tackles, five passes defensed and three interceptions. Prior to Miami, Dean played two seasons (2015-16) at Blinn College before transferring. He’s a native of Homestead, Fla.

Gray, also a Miami Hurricane, measures at 6-1, 233 pounds and played in 29 games during his four-year career at Miami (2014-15, 2017-18). He rushed 60 times for 294 yards and five scores. He grew up in Miami, Fla.

Harvey played in 49 contests at Iowa State from 2015-18, contributing 289 tackles, 12.5 sacks, 11 pass breakups, five forced fumbles, three fumble recoveries and returned one interception for a touchdown. At 5-11, 230 pounds, Harvey received honorable mention All-Big 12 recognition three consecutive seasons from 2016-18 and played in the NFLPA Collegiate Bowl in 2019. Raised in Hastings, Fla., Harvey finished his career at Iowa State ranked eighth in sacks in program history.


You posted that you liked Hall after he was waived... just FYI

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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan
Just wanted to show off my pick for "UDFA to make the team", Darrin Hall.

Originally Posted By: GratefulDawg
Browns sign 3 undrafted free agents

https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/bro...medium=referral

The Cleveland Browns have signed CB Jhavonte Dean, RB Trayone Gray and LB Willie Harvey. All three players participated in the Browns’ rookie minicamp on a tryout basis. Additionally, the team waived RB Darrin Hall, CB Ashton Lampkin and LB Xavier Woodson-Luster.

Dean is 6-1, 185 pounds and a product of Miami (Fla.). The rookie played in 25 games over two seasons as a Hurricane (2017-18), posting 28 tackles, five passes defensed and three interceptions. Prior to Miami, Dean played two seasons (2015-16) at Blinn College before transferring. He’s a native of Homestead, Fla.

Gray, also a Miami Hurricane, measures at 6-1, 233 pounds and played in 29 games during his four-year career at Miami (2014-15, 2017-18). He rushed 60 times for 294 yards and five scores. He grew up in Miami, Fla.

Harvey played in 49 contests at Iowa State from 2015-18, contributing 289 tackles, 12.5 sacks, 11 pass breakups, five forced fumbles, three fumble recoveries and returned one interception for a touchdown. At 5-11, 230 pounds, Harvey received honorable mention All-Big 12 recognition three consecutive seasons from 2016-18 and played in the NFLPA Collegiate Bowl in 2019. Raised in Hastings, Fla., Harvey finished his career at Iowa State ranked eighth in sacks in program history.


You posted that you liked Hall after he was waived... just FYI


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Yeah, PDawg pointed that out above. I have no idea how I missed it. crazy


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I'm thinking Gray is still around to soak up some of the FB reps on second team/whatever. Maybe a practice squad candidate. Doesn't look very fluid. Really gears down to cut. I'm not sure how well he lead blocks.

Hope there's something there and not just Highsmith's affinity for the U.


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There is a hitch in the kiddie up *L*
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He is also listed on the roster...

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I could see us keeping Colquitt and putting the rookie on the PS for a year. Unless someone else wants to make him their starter they can't claim him...


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Originally Posted By: MemphisBrownie
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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Percent chance he beats out Colquitt?


Zero


Colquitt is not a guy Dorsey brought in so its 50/50.


I think the Scottish kid got a little injury??? Not sure but thought I read that somewhere. If he cannot compete then he obviously will lose out.

Colquitt, Age shouldn't be a big factor with kickers although Punters are about strong legs and I think the kid has an Upper leg on that.

Colquitt, has a contract of around 3 mil and is in the top 10 for punters paid. Not a back breaking cap number but does come into the real of analytics. At what point to your part ways with a good 34 year old punter???

If the kid booms them consistently and proves himself in Preseason games. I think there is a good chance we will make that call and go with the young guy with the stronger leg.

As for being the holder. I'm sure the kid can do it... Gosh knows they have a lot of time to get it right regarding practice. But quite frankly I wish they would go back to the old practice of the Back Up QB being the holder. Fake FGs could be a threat??? Ex points no longer - wonder how that works if there is a miss snap I guess they got to go for the 2 point conversion from afar??? Still QBs are generally good athletes I get the time to be spent as the holder is more efficient for practicing with the Punter.

I don't mind the kid replacing Colquitt as long as that 100% means he can kick "BETTER" Longer and higher. Improves the ST unit.

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Has good long arms (small hands) Hopefully he is nasty, as long as we fill up athletic OLmen who are nasty and have some quickness along with good feet. One or more will stick. Its looks like we are doing that. Not big oafs or bums. Good football players not from your common hunting grounds for NFL talent. But if we stay with a common denominator I think the odds of finding that talent that will stick is there.

The kid fits that mold we should carry 9-10 on the final roster.

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I really like this group of UDFA. I think that we have some guys with potential to be developed. I like that we do not ignore the OL too, but the days of keeping a developmental player on the roster for three or more years is going to become a thing of the past here with this FO imo.

I am thinking of a guys like Harrison. (And even Chad Thomas.)

If he they do not show some good progress, then we have others waiting in the wings, because we have not ignored our liabilities and depth.

We are going to have to cut some players (some unpopular decisions) that in years past we would have never thought of ... And like BB and NE, some veterans looking to be extended.


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I could see us keeping Colquitt and putting the rookie on the PS for a year. Unless someone else wants to make him their starter they can't claim him...


You have to waive them and have them clear waivers before you can sign them to the practice squad. Anyone that wants him can claim him.


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The Hammer makes the team. He can kick all three positions. We will keep a kicker and punter, but the Hammer could allow us to go with a single kicker. Plus, it gives is a realistic option if somebody gets hurt in game.


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j/c:

I think Colquit is a very good punter. I like his ability to place the ball close to the goal line. I also like that he has been proving he can be a good punter for years. Some guys look great in workouts and practice, but are duds in games. If we replace Colquit, we better be damn sure the new guy can handle the pressure of kicking in NFL games.

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The Hammer makes the team. He can kick all three positions. We will keep a kicker and punter, but the Hammer could allow us to go with a single kicker. Plus, it gives is a realistic option if somebody gets hurt in game.
Actually, both Seibert and Gillas both kicked and punted in college. If it ends up they are the guys, each can be the other's injury backup.


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I think Colquit is a very good punter. I like his ability to place the ball close to the goal line. I also like that he has been proving he can be a good punter for years. Some guys look great in workouts and practice, but are duds in games. If we replace Colquit, we better be damn sure the new guy can handle the pressure of kicking in NFL games.


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j/c:

I think Colquit is a very good punter. I like his ability to place the ball close to the goal line. I also like that he has been proving he can be a good punter for years. Some guys look great in workouts and practice, but are duds in games. If we replace Colquit, we better be damn sure the new guy can handle the pressure of kicking in NFL games.


Yep.


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He will be the Backup QB.

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I dont even know what this means.


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You said what I was thinking. Now they're just putting up lines with numbers designed to look like charts with disconnected words and calling it "information", lol


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