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once again, have you seen evidence, a statement is not evidence. have you seen actual evidence? no you haven't. Those 17 agencies also stated they were not spying on American citizens.
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And even Barr said he has no idea if anything illegal happened.
So you're saying they didn't have any evidence with which to base this on?
You know it's rather odd. You feel fine saying that Barr has every right to redact things that have to do with national security in the Mueller report on one hand.
Then on the other hand you want for our security agencies to reveal how and what evidence they have against the Russians hacking.
It sounds as if you're picking and choosing who should reveal what and wish to believe one side while refusing the believe the other side based on the same criteria.
Barr can hide things due to national security. The security agencies must reveal everything regardless of national security. That's a true have your cake and eat it too moment right there.
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You know it's rather odd. You feel fine saying that Barr has every right to redact things that have to do with national security in the Mueller report on one hand. where did I say that? I said its the law that they redact the information, I never said I didn't want to see it. big difference. but keep whatabouting. Then on the other hand you want for our security agencies to reveal how and what evidence they have against the Russians hacking.
It sounds as if you're picking and choosing who should reveal what and wish to believe one side while refusing the believe the other side based on the same criteria. It seems to me you like to REEEEAAACHHHH as well. 1. I never said I didn't want to see the mueller report. your incorrect. 2. I never said that information couldn't be redacted from the agencies - but at least put out something. 3. Mueller has not lied before congress. Those agencies have. WMD, spying on citizens....the list goes on. Big difference. [quote]Barr can hide things due to national security. The security agencies must reveal everything regardless of national security. That's a true have Your entire "gotcha" was just blown up in smoke.
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You didn't blow up anything. I'm not sure what planet you're from but a lady finger isn't a bomb. If you're claiming to be using a smoke bomb I agree. A lot of smoke with no explosion.
EVERY security agency hasn't lied before congress. You are grouping them all together in order to push your agenda.
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WMD was a bigger hoax than Russiagate brought to you by the same people. Cough Bill Kristol ahem
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It sounds as if you're picking and choosing who should reveal what and wish to believe You say this, but then you don't believe them now and want to see the mueller report, but you believe the agencies with not needing any verification what so ever, because, well...trump.
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I want to see the law followed, yes. But I do understand that we won't see the entire report and there are reasons for that.
Now if you can't comprehend why we can't give away national security secrets about what we garnered from Russia that's your own issue.
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Funny,
All these dems calling for transparency of the Mueller report, but hate Assange because of the email leaks and transparency. And yet again trump doesn’t even praise law enforment for doing their job. He now claims he doesn’t know anything about Wikileaks like a three year caught with his hand in the cookie jar.
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I say lock him up! or not. Kind of how I feel. He already did 7 years as far as I'm concerned. But he's an ass for working with Russia, so if he gets time I'm good with it.
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All these dems calling for transparency of the Mueller report, but hate Assange because of the email leaks and transparency. And yet again trump doesn’t even praise law enforment for doing their job. He now claims he doesn’t know anything about Wikileaks like a three year caught with his hand in the cookie jar. If they get him here I imagine he will be looking to cut a deal. 
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Well to be honest about it, if you look at my earlier posts you will see one FOX guy saying he is a hero while another FOX guy says he is a villain. So I am stuck with not knowing what to think till FOX makes up its mind! 
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Well to be honest about it, if you look at my earlier posts you will see one FOX guy saying he is a hero while another FOX guy says he is a villain. So I am stuck with not knowing what to think till FOX makes up its mind! Quoted for #TRUTH.
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Time to buy stock in laundry detergent and toilet paper because an awful lot of people are crapping their pants right about now. He's not going to hold anything back now. I can't imagine he spent 6 years self exiled in an embassy if he had any aces up his sleeve. I think he's still got quite a bit up his sleeve. He had to know he'd be arrested sooner or later and he needs some bargaining chips. He's got to have good stuff on Trump and the Clintons....as well as more stuff we shouldn't know about. That pic at the top of this thread is nothing like the video I saw of the police bringing him out kicking and screaming.
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“ I Iove Wikileaks” “I love to read Wikileaks”. 
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Good. If the fbi charges him with hacking the dncs servers, they will have to do forensics on those servers. They will have to explain why all the evidence from hitlery's servers was allowed to be deleted or destroyed. This could get good.
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screw assange and anybody defending this loser.
people really expect me to be A ok with foreigners committing espionage against our country. congrats, Putin has won. i rather go to prison than serve with most of you posting in this thread. yall would sell out your own mother to save your own skin.
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Yeah, only the forensics will lead them to Russian hackers.
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If Assange had leaked only dirt on Trump, they'd cherish each breath he takes. A true whistle blower leaks about all wrong doing.. Had he leaked dirt on Trump in addition to Clinton, I'd be ok with it. But what bothers me is leaking Military secrets.... That's treason
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But what bothers me is leaking Military secrets.... That's treason Since Assange isn't American I doubt it can be treason.
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I do not like punishing whistle blowers, I didn't like it when Obama did it and I do not like it now. I think they should release Chelsea Manning and Julian Assange.
But I understand why they think it's right to punish them.
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Since Assange isn't American I doubt it can be treason. You're right. It's espionage by a foreign actor. Enemy of the State.
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He's a reporter and Chelsea Manning is Deep Throat.
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Yeah, only the forensics will lead them to Russian hackers. Unless the Russians were at the dnc hq, this is very doubtful. From what I've heard, the data was transferred at too high a rate to go over the Internet. This was pulled from wiki leaks files. They would have needed gigabit Ethernet at the very least from one end to the other to transfer at those speeds. I'm all for the dnc turning over their servers for inspection and analysis. By the way, for those of you that don't know, yes, that type of info is retained in files when they are transfered.
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I do not like punishing whistle blowers, I didn't like it when Obama did it and I do not like it now. I think they should release Chelsea Manning and Julian Assange.
But I understand why they think it's right to punish them. Manning committed espionage and treason. Unfortunately, his sentence was either commuted or he was pardoned. I forget which. Assange only published it, unless he helped manning. No crime otherwise.
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Well to be honest about it, if you look at my earlier posts you will see one FOX guy saying he is a hero while another FOX guy says he is a villain. So I am stuck with not knowing what to think till FOX makes up its mind! Quoted for #TRUTH. Niiiiiiice……..
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Unfortunately, his sentence was either commuted or he was pardoned. Manning's sentence was commuted by Obama.
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Unfortunately, his sentence was either commuted or he was pardoned. Manning's sentence was commuted by Obama. I knew obummer gave him a get out of jail free card. I didn't know what type. Thanks.
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Most everyone knows the Russians hacked the DNC. Even Trump's administration. But I'm sure you'll find some sideways way to deny the facts when they do come out.
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Most everyone knows the Russians hacked the DNC. Even Trump's administration. But I'm sure you'll find some sideways way to deny the facts when they do come out.
Or I could just be right again. Still waiting for Trump to be impeached for collusion?
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You're a funny guy. Your claim is a lie. I always said that everyone should wait for the report to come out to see what did or didn't happen.
But that's how people like you screw up. By putting anyone who doesn't agree with you in the same box.
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Just a random thought inspired by a tweet.
In an era of fakes news, we are about to imprison one of the most accurate and factual reporters of our lifetime.
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Yeah, we should ignore people who conspire with our enemies who try to disrupt the democratic process. Interfering in our elections should be ignored. Especially when Russia is involved.
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Free Assange! Grant him pardon in the US!
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Who was it that wanted Assange arrested in the first place (pre 2016), Dems or GOPers?
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Yeah, we should ignore people who conspire with our enemies who try to disrupt the democratic process. Interfering in our elections should be ignored. Especially when Russia is involved. Right that is even remotely related to what I said.
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Yeah, we should ignore people who conspire with our enemies who try to disrupt the democratic process. Interfering in our elections should be ignored. Especially when Russia is involved. Right that is even remotely related to what I said. Please do not try to excuse yourself after you just attacked me in another thread doing exactly that. Your personal attacks on dems on this board are just getting out of hand.
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Rape case against WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange to be reopened, Swedish prosecutors saySwedish prosecutors said on Monday they will reopen a rape case against WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, at the request of the alleged victim's lawyer. The case's reopening comes a month after he was removed from the Ecuadorian Embassy in London. Sweden's deputy director of public prosecutions Eva-Marie Persson made the announcement at a news conference in Stockholm. She said that “there is still a probable cause to suspect that Assange committed a rape.” Swedish prosecutors filed preliminary charges against Assange after he visited the country in 2010. Assange, who has denied the charges, has avoided extradition by seeking refuge in London's Ecuadorian embassy. Seven years later, a case of alleged sexual misconduct was dropped when the statute of limitations expired. That left a rape allegation, which couldn't be pursued while Assange was living at the embassy. The statute of limitations on that case expires in August 2020. https://www.foxnews.com/world/rape-case-...prosecutors-say
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Free Assange! Grant him pardon in the US! Yeah that’s the ticket .... let a pervert, creep, rapist loose into a trump era society where he can grab grope and rape at will and get away with it.
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Free Assange! Grant him pardon in the US! Yeah that’s the ticket .... let a pervert, creep, rapist loose into a trump era society where he can grab grope and rape at will and get away with it. Wow. Your statement takes me back to things that were said by the Lynch Mobs during my youth. No Due Process. Guilt by accusation alone. You of all people should know better. 
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