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bro they didnt learn a damn thing from iraq.

trump is trying to pull the same crap bush and them did with fake evidence to justify warfare. and 40 and them are going right along with it.


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except we had a deal that stopped their nuclear program, and wouldve been used as leverage for future negotiations.

now you're boy is trying to dictate iranian policy with NO leverage.

what chapter in the art of the deal covers shooting yourself in the foot?

hey 40, remind me again. how many terrorist from iran has attacked us here in america?

how many saudi's? don't worry, i'll wait.


So we are supposed to believe that Iran will follow the terms that Obama gave to them? My goodness...tell me you don't think that way.


they were following it! good lord do you do research, or hell, pay attention to the news? they were in compliance!!! and the trump administration had to admit they were in compliance, and WE pulled out of it anyway?

my goodness you're completely clueless dude.


That deal was as stupid as the Paris Climate BS...and sending cash to Iran. The only thing Trump did wrong was to wait as long as he did to kill it off.

You know you have a liberal on their heels when they resort to name calling.

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They have no clue what the terms of the agreement were and what inspections were in place. They just parrot what they're told.


Just because that's what you want to believe, doesn't make it so.

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It wasn’t dumb. We had how many countries sign off on it? And you still parroting nonsense crap about the cash, proving that you once again don’t do your research.

The fact that basic facts have to be explained to you because you REFUSE to do any of the research yourself more than justifies the clueless label you so readily earned.


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I mean damn, what a sad situation. This board is proof that people get their news from either this board or Facebook. Basic facts have to be constantly explained to people here, as if some are incapable of looking up facts on their own.

No wonder guys like candy, gage, lurker, and even Clem to an extent have fallen back on posting. You can’t even have actual discussions with most people on here, cause you have to spend way too much effort to even get them to acknowledge basic ass facts.


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except we had a deal that stopped their nuclear program, and wouldve been used as leverage for future negotiations.

now you're boy is trying to dictate iranian policy with NO leverage.

what chapter in the art of the deal covers shooting yourself in the foot?

hey 40, remind me again. how many terrorist from iran has attacked us here in america?

how many saudi's? don't worry, i'll wait.

when i deployed to iraq, we ran into a lot of saudi's committing terrorism, not iranians.


No, we had a deal that made you "Feel Good" they stopped their Nuke program but the truth is another matter.

I read where something like 500 Americans have been killed by Iranian weapons, built in Iranian factories, and shipped to their proxies for killing us.

Now my boy has INTEL the Iranians are loading Cruse Missiles onto their smaller boats and their proxies have damaged ships in the Gulf. There is a direct threat to American's in that region so he has evacuated all unnecessary personnel from Iraq.

He has sent a Carrier Group to tell Iran to stop it now.

When asked if we are going to war with Iran, he said, "I hope not."

We are prepared, it is now on them.

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Intel from who? Bolton? The guy who helped get us into the Iraq war?

Your whole post was pure propaganda. Sad that you’re going down with the ship. Oh well.


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You do realize they started loading those cruise missiles AFTER Your boy deployed an aircraft carrier to the region and started sending Patriot missiles to the region, right?

I guess we should send an armada of ships and missiles to the region and expect them not to react.

Let me give you the term for that. Defensive positioning.


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40 thinks the US and Israel should be the only countries with a right to sovereignty.


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Intel from who? Bolton? The guy who helped get us into the Iraq war?

Your whole post was pure propaganda. Sad that you’re going down with the ship. Oh well.


Intel from the CIA I would think.

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Well heaven help them if they take defensive measures to protect themselves after we deploy our weaponry. We all know signs of defending themselves is a sign of aggression.


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Well heaven help them if they take defensive measures to protect themselves after we deploy our weaponry. We all know signs of defending themselves is a sign of aggression.


You continue to root for our enemies and make excuses for them?

How much you must hate Trump even to the detriment of your own Country. tsktsk

SHAME!

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I explained the chronological order in which things happened. I know comprehending what that actually means is above your pay grade.


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There goes 40 banging on the drums of war again.

Sad. Learned nothing from Iraq whatsoever. Blind loyalty to a man, not a country.


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There goes Swish and Pit closing their eyes to a probable threat while defending our enemies against the evil Trump. rolleyes

Not a thought given to the fact the Iranian economy is collapsing due to our sanctions and they may "use them or lose them" when it comes to military action.

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A threat Trump created and instigated.


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Another Obama created and instigated mess we must clean up.

Just like so many other things.

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A nuclear agreement with the most powerful countries in the world is considered a mess?

By that logic, that makes trump and his policies an extinction level event.


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He's drunk on the Kool Aid. Facts no longer matter. Only government propaganda.


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Our good allies, Israel, showed us a whole room full of evidence they stole from Iran showing your agreement was useless as Iran continued developing their Nuke capabilities.

Pa-Leese stop.

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No, no they didn't.


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Trump administration says Iran is in compliance with the nuclear deal

https://www.latimes.com/politics/washing...-htmlstory.html

Iran is complying with nuclear deal restrictions: IAEA report

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iran-...t-idUSKCN1LF1KR

I don't know, maybe the Trump White House and the International Atomic Energy Agency are lying. I mean Trump is famous for that.


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From 2017???

And then our Intel and the Intel from our allies showed us otherwise.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/...ar_program.html

Watch it here...
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Israel's Iran documents show nuclear deal 'was built on lies'
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-43958205

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Our allies said they were in compliance.

Again, basic facts.


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Show us? There is zero credible evidence that Iran violated the deal and they continued to follow the deal with other nations even after we pulled out of the deal until just recently.


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And then our Intel and the Intel from our allies showed us otherwise.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/...ar_program.html

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Israel's Iran documents show nuclear deal 'was built on lies'
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-43958205

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rofl

So what this says is that we made a deal with Iran not to further their nuclear program but they said they never had one to begin with? Then why would we have ever made such a deal if we believed that in the first place?

This doesn't show ANYTHING that indicates they broke the deal while it existed. Nothing!

It claims they didn't fully disclose what they did and had before the deal was made. This shows zero evidence that they broke the deal.

You'll try anything. But Trump is pretty much Netanyahu's biotch. I'll give you that much.


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Just close your eyes again and dream.

Nothing to see here.

Trump got this. thumbsup

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So did Bush in Iraq. But I bet you supported that too.


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Fmr CIA chief of station: 'Encouraging' that Iran is unloading missiles from its boats

Iran's decision to remove missiles from two of its boats indicated the rogue nation was de-escalating tensions surrounding its nuclear program, former CIA Chief of Station Daniel Hoffman said on Saturday.

Hoffman told "America's News HQ" that the removal was "an encouraging sign." "I think Iran is trying to de-escalate.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/cia-chief-iran-missiles-boats

Good News!

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Trump didn't even know the people he hired had contingency plans in place to send 120,000 troops to Iran. Unless he was lying which is entirely possible.


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
Trump didn't even know the people he hired had contingency plans in place to send 120,000 troops to Iran. Unless he was lying which is entirely possible.


Just a question: Don't you think the military has contingency plans concerning most countries?

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Of course I do. And the president is supposed to be aware of those plans. I mean after all he is the commander over our entire military.

That's why I think it is far more likely Trump simply lied about having no clue such a contingency plan was in place.


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Baghdad's Green Zone targeted in rocket attack, no casualties reported, military says

A large explosion was heard in central Baghdad on Sunday night after an apparent rocket attack on the Iraqi capital's heavily fortified Green Zone but no casualties were reported, according to officials.

The Iraqi Military said in a statement that a Katyusha rocket "fell in the middle of the Green Zone without causing any losses."

The Green Zone is where Iraqi government headquarters and the U.S. Embassy are located in the capital city. Iraq's state-run news agency said the rocket crashed inside the area without causing any casualties.

The Katyusha multiple rocket launcher is an inexpensive type of rocket artillery that can deliver explosives to a target quicker than conventional artillery, but is less accurate, according to Reuters.

An Iraqi oil official told the Associated Press on Saturday that employees of energy giant Exxon Mobil have started evacuating an oil field in the southern province of Basra. The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the media, said all those who are being evacuated are foreigners or Iraqis who hold other nationalities.

The official did not give numbers but said the first group left two days ago and another batch left early Saturday.

On Saturday afternoon, Bahrain ordered all of its citizens to immediately leave Iraq and Iran, amid rising tensions. Bahrain's Foreign Ministry cited the "unstable situation in the region and the grave developments and threats that threaten security and stability."

Baharin is a small, Sunni-ruled island nation off the coast of Saudi Arabia. It regularly accuses Iran of stirring dissent in its Shiite-majority population.

Iraq hosts more than 5,000 U.S. troops and is home to powerful Iranian-backed militias, some of whom want those U.S. forces to leave.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/baghdads-green-zone-rocket-attack

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Trump says war will mean 'official end of Iran,' warns 'never threaten the United States again'

President Trump fired a social media broadside at the Iranian regime Sunday afternoon, vowing that war between Washington and Tehran would result in "the official end of Iran" before warning, "[n]ever threaten the United States again!"

Trump tweeted hours after a rocket landed less than a mile from the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad's heavily fortified Green Zone, the first such attack since September. An Iraqi military spokesman told reporters the rocket appeared to have been fired from east Baghdad, which is home to several Iran-backed Shiite militias.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-war-iran-never-threaten-united-states

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foreign policy threats through tweets.

so sad.


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Get with the times old fella!

We don't send telegraph messages like Lincoln anymore!

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foreign policy threats through tweets.

so sad.



Mean grl B so skeery.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
foreign policy threats through tweets.

so sad.


The Twitter Doctrine.


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Apparently Trump's plan of Sanctions and Maximum Pressure is having the desired effect on Iran.

- Iran's Shia Militia told to find new revenue sources.

- Hamas enacted "Austerity Plans" to address less funding from Iran.

- Iran's Cyber Command is short on cash.

- Hezbollah has deployed Donation Boxes.

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