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I'm sorry, you can't do that by yourself. You can't use that as a strategy against your opponent as you have no idea how much oil you can move and how far it will go. You would also have to be throwing on your opponents exact line, not your natural or desired line to establish the best score you can make. Teams of bowlers over the evening can move oil down the lane, but it's not a strategy, it's a reaction.


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You can. Pull out a urethane ball and you push the oil down within a few shots if you do not wipe it off first. I do it all the time.

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Im pretty consistent, I can hit a my mark within an inch of two pretty much all night long.

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Based on the equipment in my bag, I can usually make my ideal line anywhere I want on a THS (typical house shot).



What is your standard line on a fresh short oil pattern?

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You can. Pull out a urethane ball and you push the oil down within a few shots if you do not wipe it off first. I do it all the time.

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Im pretty consistent, I can hit a my mark within an inch of two pretty much all night long.

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Based on the equipment in my bag, I can usually make my ideal line anywhere I want on a THS (typical house shot).

But if they are equally good, aren't they able to move stuff around too?

I honestly have to admit that I had never considered a defensive strategy in bowling.. In golf it's easy, you just get in your opponents head with comments like "Have you always had that little hitch at the top of your backswing?"


You'll definitely have more luck with that method than trying to, on purpose, move oil down and place it in such a fashion as it causes your opponent issues. You'd be so busy trying to hit your opponents line that you wouldn't be scoring at all. Just stick with, do you breathe in or out when you deliver your shot? Does your thumb always wiggle from side to side in your backswing? These are the only real defense you have, and I'd question you if you actually use them.


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Originally Posted By: DCDAWGFAN
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You can. Pull out a urethane ball and you push the oil down within a few shots if you do not wipe it off first. I do it all the time.

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Im pretty consistent, I can hit a my mark within an inch of two pretty much all night long.

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Based on the equipment in my bag, I can usually make my ideal line anywhere I want on a THS (typical house shot).

But if they are equally good, aren't they able to move stuff around too?

I honestly have to admit that I had never considered a defensive strategy in bowling.. In golf it's easy, you just get in your opponents head with comments like "Have you always had that little hitch at the top of your backswing?"


Lol. Where'd you get those shorts? Do they sell men's clothes there?


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Originally Posted By: DCDAWGFAN
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You can. Pull out a urethane ball and you push the oil down within a few shots if you do not wipe it off first. I do it all the time.

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Im pretty consistent, I can hit a my mark within an inch of two pretty much all night long.

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Based on the equipment in my bag, I can usually make my ideal line anywhere I want on a THS (typical house shot).

But if they are equally good, aren't they able to move stuff around too?

I honestly have to admit that I had never considered a defensive strategy in bowling.. In golf it's easy, you just get in your opponents head with comments like "Have you always had that little hitch at the top of your backswing?"





Poor form. Just saying.


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Just stick with, do you breathe in or out when you deliver your shot? Does your thumb always wiggle from side to side in your backswing? These are the only real defense you have, and I'd question you if you actually use them.

I play golf with 2 kinds of folks.. some that aren't near as good as me and I don't need to "play defense" or try mind games...

And some who are as good as me and mind games don't work on them.. unless they aren't playing well, then you can get in their head but if they aren't playing well, there is no need.


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Originally Posted By: DCDAWGFAN
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You can. Pull out a urethane ball and you push the oil down within a few shots if you do not wipe it off first. I do it all the time.

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Im pretty consistent, I can hit a my mark within an inch of two pretty much all night long.

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Based on the equipment in my bag, I can usually make my ideal line anywhere I want on a THS (typical house shot).

But if they are equally good, aren't they able to move stuff around too?

I honestly have to admit that I had never considered a defensive strategy in bowling.. In golf it's easy, you just get in your opponents head with comments like "Have you always had that little hitch at the top of your backswing?"
ehhhh, not really. Most people do not throw urethane anymore (they are starting to come back into popularity though). But when using reactive ball, it "sucks" up the oil, making the shot drier, whereas a urethane will push the oil down lane.

Reactive balls go longer and hook on the backend, but if the oil is pushed down the lane, they will not react as they should, and the other player will begin to leave weak 10pins, start to have trouble getting the ball to finish.

I have seen guys flip their lid when I throw urethane because they cannot adjust (most league bowlers are THS bowlers, and once you get them out of their normal line, they are garbage).

The pros can work around it, but then your changing their gameplan mid game, and they are fishing for a new line or ball speed.

It can get quite interesting.

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I'm sorry, you can't do that by yourself. You can't use that as a strategy against your opponent as you have no idea how much oil you can move and how far it will go. You would also have to be throwing on your opponents exact line, not your natural or desired line to establish the best score you can make. Teams of bowlers over the evening can move oil down the lane, but it's not a strategy, it's a reaction.


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You can. Pull out a urethane ball and you push the oil down within a few shots if you do not wipe it off first. I do it all the time.

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Im pretty consistent, I can hit a my mark within an inch of two pretty much all night long.

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Based on the equipment in my bag, I can usually make my ideal line anywhere I want on a THS (typical house shot).



What is your standard line on a fresh short oil pattern?
I always try to go as straight as possible, so I can move left as it breaks down. For me the straighter I go the better the carry I have.

So I will throw whatever lets me stand at or near 20, throwing out to 5, then adjust from there. If I am having trouble keeping the ball off the nose, I just move 2 and 1 until I find the pocket.

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Bethpage Black.. 7,459 yards par 70... 7 par 4s over 460 yards, 3 of them over 500 yards.... willynilly superconfused


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Originally Posted By: DCDAWGFAN
Bethpage Black.. 7,459 yards par 70... 7 par 4s over 460 yards, 3 of them over 500 yards.... willynilly superconfused


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Wow. I wish I could have watched some of this.


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Koepka hasn't teed off yet.. but there are already some -3s, -4s, and -5s in the clubhouse. the opportunity is there for him to go low again.


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Originally Posted By: GratefulDawg
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Bethpage Black.. 7,459 yards par 70... 7 par 4s over 460 yards, 3 of them over 500 yards.... willynilly superconfused


No Problem...


Played it just like you are supposed to.. parred all of the really long ones, birdied a lot of the more reasonable ones.. however, I would not have thought somebody could shoot 63 without birdying either of the par 5s...


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He's started birdie, birdie.


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Originally Posted By: Tulsa
He's started birdie, birdie.

par, birdie.. to open up a 5 shot lead.


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Originally Posted By: DCDAWGFAN
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He's started birdie, birdie.

par, birdie.. to open up a 5 shot lead.


Tiger buries a 39 footer for birdie on #9 to shoot the front even. Keopka misses a 12 footer for birdie to shoot -3 on the front.


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He's started birdie, birdie.

par, birdie.. to open up a 5 shot lead.


Tiger buries a 39 footer for birdie on #9 to shoot the front even. Keopka misses a 12 footer for birdie to shoot -3 on the front.

Just hoping for an interesting finish. Some really good players in the -2 to -5 range right now, hoping somebody can stay close enough to Koepka to make the finish fun.... even though I'll be on my way to Dallas and won't be able to watch on Sunday.


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Originally Posted By: DCDAWGFAN

Just hoping for an interesting finish. Some really good players in the -2 to -5 range right now, hoping somebody can stay close enough to Koepka to make the finish fun.... even though I'll be on my way to Dallas and won't be able to watch on Sunday.


Keopka may have heard you, he finally made a bogey.


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After marveling at the beauty of Augusta during the Masters, Bethpage Black appears to be one of the uglier golf courses I can remember seeing, at least on this side of the Atlantic. I don't get all the bunkers on both sides of the fairway and green on both #10 and #11. They appear somewhat contrived to produce bogeys.

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Bethpage is a public course, it will never be as picturesque as the private courses featured on the PGA Tour..


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The US Open shouldn't be played at an ugly public course, imo. Also, what's with the soy bean fields planted right next to the fairways. Most golf courses at least have a "first cut" border along the fairway before you end up in the rough.

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It's the PGA Championship, not the U.S. Open. The U.S. Open is being played at an ugly public course too, Pebble Beach.

The heavy rough is helping to make this a major championship. They aren't worried about moving people around quicker with this limited field and they want to give the worlds best players a challenge.


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Thanks for the correction ... a major shouldn't be played at an ugly public course ... again, jmo.

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Personally I'd love to play there. Just not from the tips.


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Tiger now +5, probably won't make the cut. Network chiefs are gnashing their teeth. Koepke is a beast, now -11.

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John Daly won't make the cut either. He finished today at +11 (75 yesterday and 76 today). Of course he was probably playing in flip-flops and cut-off jeans, with a Marlboro Red hanging from his lip, and a 12-pack of Old Milwaukee in his PGA-sanctioned golf cart. Rock on, big guy.

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tweet didn't work

Brooks Koepka breaks the major championship 36-hole scoring record with rounds of 63-65 (128) to take a seven shot lead heading into the weekend.

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So if he wins this, it will be four majors since 2017.

Yet, most casual sports fans don't even know his name.


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j/c:

Wait! What? Pebble Beach is ugly?

I beg to differ.

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I saw that but didn't bother replying. I mean, that setting is gorgeous!


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It was tongue in cheek guys, c’mon.


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Lol, sorry Tulsa, I should have known better since it was coming from a golfer. I don't even think bethpage is ugly.


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My bad, Tulsa. Sorry.

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Originally Posted By: Dave
John Daly won't make the cut either. He finished today at +11 (75 yesterday and 76 today). Of course he was probably playing in flip-flops and cut-off jeans, with a Marlboro Red hanging from his lip, and a 12-pack of Old Milwaukee in his PGA-sanctioned golf cart. Rock on, big guy.
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God love him, though. He grips it - golf club OR bottle - and rips it, and DGAS. He's got two majors, so screw it.


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Unless Koepka falls apart, he'll have more majors than Greg Norman, Nick Price, Dustin Johnson.

How can he not be considered the best in the world right now?


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Unless Koepka falls apart, he'll have more majors than Greg Norman, Nick Price, Dustin Johnson.

How can he not be considered the best in the world right now?


I’m not sure how the world rankings will work out if he does win today, or when he wins today, but currently at #3, I would think he has a shot. He has to start winning more regular tournaments too.


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Brooks opens with a bogey and Harold Varner III opens with a birdie!

C’mon Harold!


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He's won two straight U.S. Opens, and now two PGA titles in a row.

That's very impressive.


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closer than it should have been, but congrats Koepka


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