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Swish #1627807 05/27/19 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted By: Swish
Saying dumbass things during natural disasters, such as they deserved to get hit by hurricanes cause they weren’t living in sin, as a second reason.


I can agree with you on that one bro thumbsup


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Being sold in to sex slavery in the Middle East, as a fifth.


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Originally Posted By: Tyler_Derden
What do you have to lose as a believer in god?


Honestly thinking you saw Jesus in your toast, as a sixth reason.


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Originally Posted By: Tyler_Derden
What do you have to lose as a believer in god?


Using religion as a reason to justify slavery and segregation, as a seventh reason.


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Burning witches at the stake, for an eighth.


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Originally Posted By: Tyler_Derden
What do you have to lose as a believer in god?


Thinking the earth is only 6000 years old, as a ninth.


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Originally Posted By: Tyler_Derden
What do you have to lose as a believer in god?


Saying your anti abortion, til we find out you was trying to get your mistresses an abortion before wifey found out, as the tenth reason.

I gave you 10 reason, shout to to the Ten Commandments.


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Love you to Swish, even if we butt heads all the time thumbsup


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Love you too GM


“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”

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Simply believing isn't going to lead to any of these things you mentioned....but taking that belief and trying to adapt it into a system to control others--this is where you are going to run into trouble...


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Troll here are you for real? Ive been here since this board started.

"But since you want to act like nothing more than a jack butt, I will treat you like one. WHILE I pray for you."

"I will treat you like one" Man you are one rude person. Your one of my favorite posters to. Unreal post when you can contribute to it ok? I don't want to ruin this post any more with you.


You have posted less than 50 times over the last several years. You seem to be a Bengals fan just trying to stir up crap. Sorry that you feel the need to troll frown


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Originally Posted By: Tyler_Derden
What do you have to lose as a believer in god?
possibly nothing. Possibly everything. Imagine the egg on someone's face if Allah does not exist, but Odin does. Pascal's wager only works if there are two options.

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A bengals fan are u mentally deranged?

Quit ruining my thread tsktsk


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LMAO you ruined your own thread.


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Sure it could. Besides, you’re believing in something man created.

I’m not knocking it, by the way, but there’s plenty of reasons to not believe, since you asked.


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I don't get offended by his observation. Everyone has the right to decide what they believe. As for me I believe Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior. He died for me so I will live for him.


Romans 10:9 "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and believe in thy heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."
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Sure it could. Besides, you’re believing in something man created.

I’m not knocking it, by the way, but there’s plenty of reasons to not believe, since you asked.


I think you're confusing religion and god. A belief in god is not the same thing. It's the rules at down by man that you seem to have a problem with.


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Man was the one who created the concept of god.

And then created rules around it.

There’s no confusion since man is the beginning of both.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
Man was the one who created the concept of god.

And then created rules around it.

There’s no confusion since man is the beginning of both.


My main problem with the God concept: if He is so terrific, why do so many bad things happen?
Can't he make life better for us on Earth, instead of putting a carrot in front of noses?

Is that the fella you want to spend eternity with? No heaven, no hell and the world isn't flat.


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Lol.... you try to have a conversation about God.... and Jesus breaks out....

Why is this?


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The post is about heaven,God and Christ.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
Man was the one who created the concept of god.

And then created rules around it.

There’s no confusion since man is the beginning of both.


I would say that man pigeonholed god into his narrow understanding of the universe. Even physics tells us that something cannot come from nothing, therefore something must have been there before there was everything. In science, we can trace back the beginning of the universe to a single point in space and time. That singularity is god. It's a concept we still don't and probably never will understand.


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By that logic, who created god.


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Originally Posted By: ErikInHell


I would say that man pigeonholed god into his narrow understanding of the universe. Even physics tells us that something cannot come from nothing, therefore something must have been there before there was everything. In science, we can trace back the beginning of the universe to a single point in space and time. That singularity is god. It's a concept we still don't and probably never will understand.





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This is perfect. The best written succinct description of God I've ever read. It aligns perfectly with my personal belief.

I'll take it one step further and say "Why not worship JESUS?" (or any other God or religion) It makes the incomprehensible incarnate. (a simple representation (that we can grasp) of our weird origin, existence and purpose)

"Praise be to Allah." "Praise Jesus." "Praise our Lord Buddha."

Better than thinking WE are God.

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Originally Posted By: Swish
By that logic, who created god.


That's why it's god. The alpha and omega. The beginning and end. Not of this earth. Timeless. Haven't you read any scripture?


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You do understand your posts are no different than those that stereotype black people or Mexicans, right?

Trying to claim that all believers fit any of your descriptions are no less offensive than when someone stereotypes your race.

I believe in God but fit none of your stereotypes. I repeat, none of them. You don't have to follow a religion, and even many of those who do are nothing like you've described.

In life, to get respect you have to give respect. That is earned, not given.


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I would say that man pigeonholed god into his narrow understanding of the universe. Even physics tells us that something cannot come from nothing, therefore something must have been there before there was everything. In science, we can trace back the beginning of the universe to a single point in space and time. That singularity is god. It's a concept we still don't and probably never will understand.





BINGO!!!

The Prophet ErikInHell has spoken!





This is perfect. The best written succinct description of God I've ever read. It aligns perfectly with my personal belief.

I'll take it one step further and say "Why not worship JESUS?" (or any other God or religion) It makes the incomprehensible incarnate. (a simple representation (that we can grasp) of our weird origin, existence and purpose)

"Praise be to Allah." "Praise Jesus." "Praise our Lord Buddha."

Better than thinking WE are God.



Thanks. The pic almost looks like me too.


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I was trying to stay out of this but...

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My main problem with the God concept: if He is so terrific, why do so many bad things happen?
Can't he make life better for us on Earth, instead of putting a carrot in front of noses?

Can he? Yes. But there is no carrot dangling in front of you..... go out and do good things, be nicer to people, be more understanding, be more giving, be more forgiving, be more humble, take better care of yourself..... now imagine if 7.5 billion people all did that at the same time.. How many bad things would be happening? Sure, there might still be the random natural disaster and it probably wouldn't eradicate all disease.... but imagine your daily life if everybody, and I mean EVERYBODY, lived that way...


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By that logic, who created god.


That's why it's god. The alpha and omega. The beginning and end. Not of this earth. Timeless. Haven't you read any scripture?


yea sounds like a ton of BS.


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religion = race

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religion = race

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Generalities and labeling people are universal. Quit acting like people should judge people as individuals when you refuse to do that yourself.

And in case you missed it, the same discrimination right exist for both race and religion.

You're not that special.


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never claimed to be special.

still dont like religion. wont like religion. dont believe in your god or anybody's god.

yall got a whole religion based around some chick who got knocked up, then claimed it was the son of god.

yea, its really easy to judge people who honestly think it went down like that. just like how god flooded the earth, killed everybody accept a couple people, then left them to commit incest in order to repopulate the planet.

either god is a massive creepy ass sex fiend, or he's a catholic priest.


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I never try to convince anyone to believe in God. I also don't lump everyone who disagrees with my views into a one size fits all box. I also don't try to degrade them for their beliefs or lack of them. We've both posted here for a very long time. You know I'm none of those things you described in any of those previous quotes.

It's the exact same thing as you point the finger at others for. When someone says things like "all gays", or "all blacks", you take issue with it. I don't blame you. Then you turn around and label all believers in God the exact same way.

You know what they call that, right?


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the hypocrisy of christians in one meme:



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She didn't abort the baby.


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i dont respect your religion. i dont respect islam, or judaism, or buddhism, or hinduism, or any of it.

this isn't anything new, please stop acting surprised.


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She didn't abort the baby.


yea the romans took care of that.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
i dont respect your religion. i dont respect islam, or judaism, or buddhism, or hinduism, or any of it.

this isn't anything new, please stop acting surprised.


Nobody asked you to respect it. But normal people don't disrespect people's beliefs either. There's a difference. You are just acting exactly like the people you claim to despise.


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Oh well. Religion is trash


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