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I feel if the women want to be paid more, then the team owners need to do a better job marketing their teams to bring more money in.

Because the whole time I watched these FIFA Matches, I kept wondering where this womans team came from and how did they get so good. Outside of FIFA, they have literaly zero visibility to the general public.

And I still have no idea where this team came from, and have never had any US womens soccer league marketed to me EVER. And I pay attention to soccer. Granted MLS Mens. But theres not even any internet ads for it!

Please be open and honest and discuss your ideas for women being paid more in soccer. Quit deflecting and changing the subject.

Well, when a team (mens or womens) participates on the world cup, they get paid by FIFA based on where they finish... but they don't get paid directly... the US Soccer Federation gets the whole check and they get to decide how to divide it up, how much to keep, how much to give the players, etc...

the US Soccer Federation is funded by a variety of sources, including deals with their biggest sponsor, Nike, and other corporate sponsors.. I could not find any information on whether the federal government has any role in funding them or not...

But the most simple way for the women to get paid more would be for a company like Nike, in concert with some other big corporate sponsors to say, "We ain't giving you more money unless you pay the women more." Now, they could be cool and say "Look, we are going to give you $X million more this year as part of our sponsorship but only if you guarantee that all of it goes to the ladies"... but there is probably some rule prohibiting that... so back to first option... Nike, woke as it is, holds a tremendous amount of power in this negotiation if they wanted to use it. I don't know if the option exists for the federal government to kick in a couple bucks to pay the women more... in the end, FIFA doesn't care, it's all about the US Soccer Federation...

I know a lot has been said about pulling funding from the men to give to the women, which is the wrong approach... because growing a successful mens team would be incredibly more profitable in the long run... so that would be a very short sighted approach...

It also has to be considered, by those who bash mens soccer.. that the mens world cup is 90 years old and these countries have been wholly committed to it for a century while we have been committed to about 4 other sports ahead of it... the womens world cup isn't even 30 years old yet and it has been the most popular sport for young girls in this country for a long time.... it only stands to reason that our womens team would be miles ahead of our mens team...

Put another way, we have been invested in soccer as a country for maybe 30 years... that's about how long ago the original dream team went to the Olympics which started the surge in basketball interest around the world... different countries have produced some decent players, but which of those countries has even come close to putting together a team that can compete with Americas best? That's what our mens team has been facing.

Thank you for a reply, A sensible replay at that. That's 100 times better than the person I asked originally.

I had found another article, I think it was politifact(if I can find it again, i will post a link...but short on time now)...That stated they are paid through a CBA. And the largest contention was with an older CBA. And the raw numbers showed a huge disparity.(like more than 66% less) The new/current CBA has them paid approximately 11K less.(which is close to 200K and almost twice what they made before) HOWEVER...the new CBA gives them a guaranteed floor of about 100K/yr. plus the per game bonus structure. The men get no such guarantee and are strictly on a per game bonus structure. So the per game bonuses are much higher for the men...

It is possible for the women to make more but I think when they were comparing 20 games each and 20 wins...the men were paid about 11K more. which is still less...but much better than the prior CBA and they have a guarantee the men don't have.

And if the women do bring in more money, they deserve to make a little more than the men. The one study found the women brought in about 1-1/2 million over 3 years(I did not go back to check...so I apologize if the # is incorrect). The breakdown of those 3 years showed they only brought more money in the last year...BUT they still brought in more money.

Regardless. Once I found out they are paid through a CBA...I started to lose interest in this matter. Not completely...I believe in equal pay for equal work...but I was always told...you are worth what you are able to negotiate. I make more money than some of my counterparts. I make less than others. But I negotiated that. I had demands that were met by my employer. I compromised...they compromised, and we settled on a number. Sure I would love to be paid more, everyone does. I negotiated a number I could live with and accepted. I cannot be held responsible for someone else who negotiated less (or more). And the women had representation that had negotiated the deal(s) they had/have...