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Well, I'm thrilled we got a 6th rounder for him. Face it, everyone knew we'd be getting rid of DA or Frye.... it was just a matter of when and for what.
If DA can just hold the fort down for a few more games, we'll be in good shape, and so will BQ.
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I don't know why people are so concerned about "being the laughing stock of the NFL" . Fact of the matter is, we always have been since our return for the most part. It will only change when we start winning and I believe that we will win some games this year. I still think we need a better HC and better QB coach, heck maybe even others on the staff and FO but we do have some good young players and some good vets. Brady Quinn will give us what we've needed from the QB spot. He will have some struggles but we will be fine. JMHO.
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So now we have the guy we cannot trade as the starter with a rookie who has only been in camp 3 weeks as the backup. DA and CF need the entire 9 months to learn the system but BQ will digest it in weeks. Plus read all the blitz packages that he NEVER SAW in preseason!! This is on Lerner and Phil lap, not RAC or Chud because they had to have seen they had two mules that could not get the job done!
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You cannot revise history. We went through 9 months with these 2 qbs learning the system and now, after the first game you trade your starter!
Yes ... after training camp, it was obvious both DA and Frye were just going to be place holders until Quinn was ready. We got compensation for one, while the other is a backup.
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Come on, if they were just holding position, why not get someone who can atleast win you a some games and make the remaining QB( either DA or CF) the backup?
Who's going to WANT to come in to be a place holder, knowing full well they'll get replaced in a few months??? I'll tell you right now, it's likely NOT going to be anyone who can win you games. We had a surplus of two backup QBs, and we got compensation for one of them, rather than just cutting him and getting nothing.
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Then you can have quinn learning the position.
Which is what we have now. For all of those who thought we should dump Frye or Anderson in the preseason, let the remainder keep the seat warm for the future, keep Dorsey as a mentor and train Quinn ... that's exactly what we have now! .... plus an extra draft pick!
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Also, the Browns did not know who was going to get injured this early. Hell, with the way Cincy and Balt were blitzing, we could be at BQ at the 2nd qtr of the Cincy game!
Injuries happen all the time, it was only a matter of time before somebody went down and that team was looking for a backup.
I think the biggest problem was the FO was hoping DA or Frye would look halfway competant in the first game.
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The actual plan was for the INCUMBANT starter to manage the offense till Quinn is ready..it's still the plan..but it will short circuit faster if Anderson remains the starter for long..
GMAB Dorsey has a better grasp on how to RUN A OFFENSE better than Anderson..U get that CONCEPT?
So let me get this straight,how do you have them rated on the depth chart?
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Since you've got this "plan" down so well,why don't you clue us in?
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Wow...what a day.
That's all I can really say about that.
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Amen Ammo,,, Amen  Let's hope we get some info on the thinking behind all of this
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Report: Browns trade QB Frye to Seahawks
September 11, 2007
LOS ANGELES (Ticker) - Cleveland Browns quarterback Charlie Frye on Tuesday was traded to the Seattle Seahawks for a sixth-round pick, according to a report on FOXSports.com
Frye was yanked in the second quarter of Sunday's season-opening 34-7 loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers. He had completed just 4-of-10 passes and was sacked five times.
Frye's replacement, Derek Anderson, was not much better, finishing 13-of-28 with one touchdown, one interception and a fumble.
The move likely elevates rookie quarterback Brady Quinn, the 22nd overall pick, into at least the backup role in Cleveland. The Browns also will re-sign Ken Dorsey, who was with the club's third quarterback during the preseason.
According to the report, Frye will step into the backup role behind Matt Hasselbeck in Seattle.
A third-round pick out of Akron in 2005, Frye passed for 2,454 yards in 13 games for the Browns in 2006, throwing 10 touchdown passes and 17 interceptions.
That would allow the Seahawks to move current backup Seneca Wallace to wide receiver, adding depth to a position that was weakened when starting wideout D.J. Hackett suffered a high ankle sprain on Sunday.
The Seahawks (1-0) play at Arizona on Sunday.
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I Think The Thinking Was Very Clear
Frye Barely Won Our QB Competition
Frye Has Played Like Crap Going In To His 3rd Year
Frye Lost The Confidence of The Team and Coaches
Frye Lost His Own Confidence
Basically Frye Is a Quitter
And The Team Got Rid Of Him,
And Its About Damn Time
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Clay - Frye was traded? When? Thanks for posting that up to the minute report! 
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Amen Ammo,,, Amen Let's hope we get some info on the thinking behind all of this
To be honest, I think Diam is very close to right on this.
Either DA or Frye were sitting ducks on our roster, waiting to be traded so Dorsey could be brought back to mentor Quinn.
That explains what Savage meant by "There are options to bring Ken back to the Browns at a later date in some capacity."
Wouldn't surprise me if Dorsey gets the start on Sunday...at least he knows where to go with the ball if his physical skills didn't hurt him.
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What a way to remember .....9-11..........
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I posted it mainly becuase it talked abit about the reasoning Seattle make the trade instead of waiting & hoping Frye would clear waivers. I didnt see on the others where it stated that. 
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Right now..TODAY...This minute.
Anderson
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If I don't want Quinn in till bye week he's the third stringer..because simply..if a injury occurs and he's the 2 stringer he would have to go in before I want him to..
if Anderson struggles and Quinn(being the third guy) goes in the Browns can't play the other two ...thats the rules..
let Dorsey be the second guy.
Leave him at three..
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If Dorsey starts Sunday, then that will be confirmation that the entire FO, coaches, etc. should be fired during pre-game warmups.
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What in the world is going to happen between today and the end of the bye week?
The best player at his position should be the guy who plays...ready or not.
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DORSEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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jc let´s summarize: Savage drafted Frye early 3rd round (Top 70 pick), gave him 19 starts and developed him while tanking 2 seasons for it.....and now he trades him for a supposedly low 6th rounder? and we have homers on here calling it a good thing? Savage invested high 1st, 2nd and 3rd round pick for the QB position...and it´s still a mess...  way to go If Quinn isn´t what he´s supposed to be, Savage should go.....he said it himself: the 2007 was his make or break draft....it´s his roster, no more time for excuses
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This may be one of the worst comments ever on this board....I mean really....
What in the world does 3,000 dead people have anything to do with trading our QB?
Are you really saying trading Frye is relative to the terrorist attacks?
That may be the dumbest correlation I have ever seen in my life
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Just a thought...
I HAVE to wonder what the psyche of the team is at this point. It doesn't surprise me at all that he was traded or released today cuz I said it to my buddy the other night when I heard Dorsey came in that one of these two guys was finished...most likely Frye.
Even though his play on Sunday was among the worst I've ever seen...I have to wonder what the locker room thinks. I really don't like the thought of distractions before playing the Bengals.
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What in the world is going to happen between today and the end of the bye week?
If BE keep dropping & Fumbling the ball, we can ship his happy behind out with that contract he held out for.... 
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Savage drafted Frye early 3rd round (Top 70 pick), gave him 19 starts and developed him while tanking 2 seasons for it.....and now he trades him for a supposedly low 6th rounder?
Guess U figured how the round he was selected and U stopped there.
19 STARTS produced WHAT this year?
Did he show he was a steal?
Third round QB's are usually PROJECTS..say it with me...PROJECTS..
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Which leaves you with: 1. a rookie who doesn't yet know all the playbook. 2. a PS player who throws almost as many INTs as he does completions. 3. a "mentor" who has play 10 whole games, in SF when they sucked, and was dumped to us.
And Frye was better .... how, exactly?
Each of the 2 QBs used a wristband in the Pittsburgh game .... which implies less than 100% knowledge of the playbook Frye has thrown far more INTs than TDs in his time here ...... and had a whopping 18 or so starts as opposed to 10 before being "dumped" on Seattle.
I really don't see the point. 
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What in the world is going to happen between today and the end of the bye week?
If BE keep dropping & Fumbling the ball, we can ship his happy behind out with that contract he held out for....
Which would leave us as Joe J Travis Wilson and Cribbs or Carter... AWESOME!
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No..thats not what I`m saying......LOKI....I was talking to alot of people today about the terriable tradgedy at the towers....and then this happened.......and look at all the talk about the trade.....NEVER question my PATRONAGE....never.....
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Who’s skill set is more of a detriment? Dorsey or Anderson. I say: Anderson will give more short field advantages to Cincinnati by turnover, then Dorsey inability to move the sticks. I say “Play Dorsey!” 
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Which would leave us as Joe J Travis Wilson and Cribbs or Carter... AWESOME
Thats sad isnt it, Even bye putting BE's name back into that group still dosent put fear into any def. backfield in the leauge. tells ya alittle about BE dosent it.
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Haven't posted in a while! Thought I would try to make my way back to the boards now that some of my work load has been alleviated (thank god). Anyway...... First off, for those that didn't see this coming (at-least at some point this season) I question what you've been watching transpire over the last few months. While it might not have been painfully obvious, I really didn't think Frye and Anderson would both finish the season on the Browns roster. If you look at from a roster standpoint, keeping them both around didn't really make a whole lot of sense . First off, Frye is a WC QB in what is supposed to be a vertical style passing offense. He doesn't have the arm or brain that Brady does and througout the last two seasons has failed to prove he is signifigantly better then Anderson, who we got off of Baltimore's PS. In two seasons, he's hasn't shown even an inkling of being able to read a defense, recognize a blitz or check out of a bad play. Some of that could have been the OC or the head coach handcuffing him but the majority of it was that he's just not capable. Secondly, how would it make sense to keep a rookie and two 3rd year players, neither of which were viewed as a mentor? That's just it, it doesn't. Third. Dorsey has no value to another team AT THIS POINT IN THE SEASON. We knew we could cut him and not risk losing him. He's a guy a team wants to bring in early on to learn the offense and be able to give input and instruction. A team doesn't want to try and accomplish that in week 2 of the season.....so we knew he would probably sit untouched around the league. Frye and Anderson on the other hand did hold some value, even if it was minute. Why? because at-least a few teams view them as young players that have some potential. They would have been signed by someone immediately. Instead, we keep them both, convince a team or two that we might actually go in to the season with 3 inexperienced QB's and get someone to bite on the hook. Lastly. I'm not sure if we predetermined who was eventually going to be traded. Frye and Anderson's value was a relative unknown. We probably shopped both in the pre-season and didn't get any takers. Why? because no team was convinced that we would carry Frye, Anderson, Quinn and dump Dorsey. It made no sense, which is why in the end we probably stole a 6th rounder out of the whole situation. Once the roster came out, these teams that were really interested in Frye or Anderson as a back up lost all their leverage. We started to get calls or make them and Frye's value surfaced as being superior. In the end, it worked out well because if you had to make a choice, in Chud's style of offense, Frye was the odd man out anyway. Instead of dumping either of them for nothing we kept them, got a team to pony up a DP and ended up with a personnel combo we felt comfortable with. IMO it was Anderson, Quinn and Dorsey or Frye Quinn and Dorsey. Our FO had no intention of going the whole season with 3 inexperienced QB's on the roster, especially when it only viewed one (Quinn) as a potential long term answer.
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What in the world is going to happen between today and the end of the bye week?
If BE keep dropping & Fumbling the ball, we can ship his happy behind out with that contract he held out for....
Which would leave us as Joe J Travis Wilson and Cribbs or Carter... AWESOME!
The most impressive person from this group of names was Cribbs. JJ dropped balls, Wilson isn't worth a crap and Carter...well just nevermind.
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This may be one of the worst comments ever on this board....I mean really....
What in the world does 3,000 dead people have anything to do with trading our QB?
Are you really saying trading Frye is relative to the terrorist attacks?
That may be the dumbest correlation I have ever seen in my life
I agree.
That was a terrible comment.
What happened on 9/11 does not compare to Frye being traded.
Give me a break.
Some people need to wake up and realize there's more to life than our Browns.
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Holy cow,,, that's Diams take,,, I guess that's twice in 2007 that I agree with him,,, What is this world coming to 
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JJ has a long history of NOT dropping balls as a WR... Cribbs has no history of anything as a WR....
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JJ has a long history of NOT dropping balls as a WR... Cribbs has no history of anything as a WR....
Long history or not that's what I saw on Sunday. Mediocre at best WR play and 2 big fumbles from 2/3 of our playmakers. It was an entire meltdown of our team, it was quite sad.
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It's official: http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/article.php?id=7293Frye traded to Seattle; Dorsey signed Jeff Walcoff, Staff Writer 09.11.2007 The Browns have traded quarterback Charlie Frye to the Seattle Seahawks for an undisclosed draft choice, the team announced Tuesday. To take his place, the club re-signed veteran quarterback Ken Dorsey. A Willard, Ohio native and Akron University alum, Frye joined the Browns as a third-round pick in 2005. During the past two-plus seasons, he appeared in 21 games for the club including 19 starts. Overall, he completed 354-of-567 passes for 3,490 yards with 14 touchdowns and 23 interceptions. In 2006, Frye started 13 games and completed 252-of-393 passes for 2,454 yards with 10 touchdowns and 17 interceptions. Frye started three of the club's preseason games in '07, as well as the season opener Sunday against the Steelers. Frye was removed from the game in the second quarter. The Browns lost, 34-7. Dorsey rejoins the Browns after spending the 2006 season with the club. He was waived by the team on Sept. 1, 2007. Dorsey appeared in one game for the Browns in '06 and has appeared in 12 games, including 10 starts, during his NFL career with San Francisco and Cleveland. Dorsey was largely considered the veteran tutor of Frye and Derek Anderson in ‘06 and tutored Frye, Anderson, and rookie Brady Quinn during the '07 offseason. Frye's departure and the addition of Dorsey leaves Dorsey, Anderson, and Quinn as the club's trio of quarterbacks.
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This may be one of the worst comments ever on this board....I mean really....
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Are you really saying trading Frye is relative to the terrorist attacks?
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I agree.
That was a terrible comment.
What happened on 9/11 does not compare to Frye being traded.
Give me a break.
Some people need to wake up and realize there's more to life than our Browns.
Wow,, whoever said this had to be joking right.. I won't call anyone a name,, but the original comment about what a way to remember 9/11 is idiotic... How insensitve can someone be,.,,,, Yikes
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This may be one of the worst comments ever on this board....I mean really....
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I agree.
That was a terrible comment.
What happened on 9/11 does not compare to Frye being traded.
Give me a break.
Some people need to wake up and realize there's more to life than our Browns.
Wow,, whoever said this had to be joking right.. I won't call anyone a name,, but the original comment about what a way to remember 9/11 is idiotic... How insensitve can someone be,.,,,, Yikes
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Man, Phil is so good at drafting outside of Rounds One and Two, just look at Frye. I'm simply exstatic that we got a 6th rounder so he can hit another home run in the late rounds.
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