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Savage drafted Frye early 3rd round (Top 70 pick), gave him 19 starts and developed him while tanking 2 seasons for it.....and now he trades him for a supposedly low 6th rounder?
Guess U figured how the round he was selected and U stopped there.
19 STARTS produced WHAT this year?
Did he show he was a steal?
Third round QB's are usually PROJECTS..say it with me...PROJECTS..
No, 3rd round QBs should be decent backups (shrewd, SEA thinks just that..and they´re contenders)...and Frye is a decent enough backup.....makes no sense to dump him for next to nothing. Cut Anderson and it´s +/- Zero...but Frye was a mistake either back in 2005 or now...pick your poison, Savage blew it here, sorry...and I´ve been and still am a Savage supporter
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I know what you "don't want" but my theory is about to play out.
I said they would keep both Frye and Anderson on the roster untill they felt Quinn was ready. As soon as one of those two were cut,Quinn will be the back up. Maybe not for a week or two,but by then if not before.
Say what you will ATTACK. How many snaps did Dorsey take with the first string during TC? How about the pre season? Who was the only QB on our roster to SIT AN ENTIRE pre season game? Dorsey.
Dorsey will work with Quinn untill DA goes down or sucks it up bad,which will be no more than a couple of weeks.
You seem to think you can take a guy who sits during pre season and when he does play,it's with the scrubs. Cut him,re-sign him and make him your back up?
You crack me up sometimes.
That WOULD cost RAC his job!
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This is all very elementary IMO: We had a quarterback competition and BOTH LOST. I hope that everyone can see it's because they couldn't handle the offense MENTALLY. You don't take 5 sacks in a quarter and a half if you have any clue where to throw the football. That's the only reason Frye is not here today. He can't learn a high-end, complex NFL offense. Simple. Now you have Anderson who is not up to speed mentally and has no confidence in his abilities. His footwork was HORRIBLE causing his accuracy to be HORRIBLE. Behind door #3 you have Dorsey who knows the offense, knows where to go with the football....and has no athletic ability and can't make some of the throws the offense dictates. Behind door #4 you have Quinn. Who is smart, athletic, a leader....but I don't know that he has the grasp yet either. I do know from his interviews he thinks he can do it. I trust him. Hopefully we see: Quinn  Dorsey Anderson and a victory against the Bengals.
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to bad you aint got the brains to figure out what I was saying.....your on here talking about frye....how many times did you discuss the tradgedy today......I don`t need to explain myself to the smart posters on here....
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well, that confirms it for me. All that QB competition was a smoke screen to trade Frye who would have better value than Anderson.
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I have to agree with you Django.
I'm a long time supporter of Savage, but feel that this move was simply a way of eliminating the Frye vs Anderson talk and just clearing the way for Quinn to come in this year. Something I didn't want to see. But if this line can show steady improvement, who knows?!
Bring Quinn in on the week that Bentley comes off the PUP, right? Just to throw that whole OL gelling crap out.
And the next head coach is ......
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After the smoke clears folks are going be asking them selves ; why didn't Savage sign a Vet QB. when the FA. first started ????? 
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Your right,they no had business drafting Frye in the 1st place....all he did was make the Browns fans feel all warm on the inside when he was drafted(way too high) cause he was a backyard boy...
he hasn't improved one bit from day 1.
Wow, you love to troll this board.
Drafted too high? He was projected as a 2nd rounder.
Now go watch your Bungles, and watch how the officials throw bogus flags to save your team.
sorry, I know a lot more has been said since this post but it really stuck out. He was projected as a second rounder by the MEDIA.
What in his skill-set made him a potential second rounder though?? A 3rd rounder? It's not a knock on CF but I agree with Impact. At the very least, it wasn't a trolling comment.
The more popular explanation is that the browns 'finally' caught a break, Rogers slid down to 24 where GB nabbed him in the first, and therefore CF slid to us in the 3rd...
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After the smoke clears folks are going be asking them selves ; why didn't Savage sign a Vet QB. when the FA. first started ?????
He tried Water....Trent Green wanted no part of Cleveland though....and KC wanted to trade him to us because we were willing to give them more (and probably they thought we stink more, making the pick better than MIA if same round)...the Fa-rest was useless...oh and Rattay is still a FA....and we have a version of him who knows the Offense and is a better mentor (Dorsey)
who else was there? did I miss somebody?
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agreed.
I wanted Brunnel in a trade in the offseason. He's on the outs with the Redskins.
His skills have clearly diminshed. But he's known as being one of the best leaders in the locker room (along with Trent Green), and he's smart and fairly accurate. We could have gotten him for a 5th or 6th rounder IMO.
And the debacle with the Steelers would have been just a minor arse whoopin. lol
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Im surprised anybody in the NFL wanted the kid. At least we got something. Dorsey is perfect to mentor Quinn. Anderson is just buying time until his contract ends this year (at least i think it does). Nice to see some movement here to give something back to the fans after that game Sunday.
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No, 3rd round QBs should be decent backups (shrewd, SEA thinks just that..and they´re contenders)...and Frye is a decent enough backup.....makes no sense to dump him for next to nothing. Cut Anderson and it´s +/- Zero...but Frye was a mistake either back in 2005 or now...pick your poison, Savage blew it here, sorry...and I´ve been and still am a Savage supporter
Being a Seahawks season ticket holder for 4+ years now, this kind of excites me. I think he'll be a great fit in the WCO, and it allows Seneca Wallace to be that exciting WR/PR that he was slated to be a couple years ago when Seattle drafted David Greene.
Being a Browns fan first, this is bittersweet. I like Charlie and want the Ohio boys to do well, especially those on the Browns. I do think Dorsey had a better grasp of the offense than Charlie based on news reports, this site, and listening to games, so this may be a very good move from that regard (and that he was mentoring Brady).
Good luck Charlie, I'll look forward to cheering for you 15 games this year...
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DeiselDawg said it huh? wow,, Brilliant,, SIMPLY Brilliant
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i know everyone says that dorsey doesn't have an nfl arm, but really, how weak is it? is it so bad that he isn't even an option to play?
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After the smoke clears folks are going be asking them selves ; why didn't Savage sign a Vet QB. when the FA. first started ?????
A bazillion people HAVE been asking that. All the time.
And the answer was and STILL is: There were no good vet QBs available that would have made a difference. The Browns looked into the ones that were worth anything and we couldn't get them.
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Your right,they no had business drafting Frye in the 1st place....all he did was make the Browns fans feel all warm on the inside when he was drafted(way too high) cause he was a backyard boy...
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Wow, you love to troll this board.
Drafted too high? He was projected as a 2nd rounder.
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sorry, I know a lot more has been said since this post but it really stuck out. He was projected as a second rounder by the MEDIA.
What in his skill-set made him a potential second rounder though?? A 3rd rounder? It's not a knock on CF but I agree with Impact. At the very least, it wasn't a trolling comment.
The more popular explanation is that the browns 'finally' caught a break, Rogers slid down to 24 where GB nabbed him in the first, and therefore CF slid to us in the 3rd...
If this organization went to Akron to scout Frye as many times as we were told, they'd have realized he was a product of his system there...the WCO.
So you draft him and try to pidgeonhole him into a pocket passer which you absolutely knew he was not from your scouting excursions! I watched him play out of the shotgun at Akron most of the time and runnin-n-gunnin quite succesfully.
If he was not the guy for the system you had in mind why draft him? Then again, why ask, this group seems to have difficulties making decisions about anything.
I'm not saying he'll be a star by any means, but he'll settle into more of a comfort zone up there away from the "Hometown Boy" image and the Cleveland QB grinder... Next victim!!
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You all are going to have strokes if you keeping get all worked up over this.
What's done is done, time to lay it to rest and look forward.
We don't have to agree with each other, to respect each others opinion.
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As of right now,,, 3:33 PM Tuesday September 11, 2007, there are 7 pages of responses on this thread about a QB that at least half the members of this board didn't think was worth a plug nickle,,, I'm amazed...LOL
Anyway, we can stop arguing over him and whether or not he's got the skills to be a starter in the NFL.
I still like the kid and think he's a gamer,,, But he's no longer a brown,,, I wish him well,,, Good luck Charlie,,, Good luck
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I too, wish Charlie the best of luck. I think that he does have some skills but was a poor fit for the direction we are going (didn't this same thing happen with another qb?) amazing how that works huh?
anyways, good luck chuck, except on november 4th and don't give our playbook to seattle.
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People are still arguing about Tim Couch and Kelly Holcomb and you want them to stop talking about a guy that's only been gone 3 hours........
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I heard that Charlie Frye (QB out of Akron) is available...we gotta get this guy!
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My guess is that most of these guys will give Brady at least 3 INTs before they start calling for the backup.......
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You know, I feel bad for the guys that dressed up as "Charlie's Fryes" and made their way into superfandom. I mean, what is Mensa going to do with all that extra fabric now?
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My guess is that most of these guys will give Brady at least 3 INTs before they start calling for the backup.......
Thats per season...not per game
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to bad you aint got the brains to figure out what I was saying.....your on here talking about frye....how many times did you discuss the tradgedy today......I don`t need to explain myself to the smart posters on here....
WOW... such an intelligent post (and well written by the way) to follow up your intelligent connection of 9-11 to Frye being traded.
Why don't you go ahead and explain your post so some of us dumb folk can put 2 and 2 together. Apparently a few of us not so smart ones missed the connection of how the events of 9-11 correlate with Frye being traded.
Sorry, I missed the connection, but if your recent post is any indication as to what is coming, I can't wait to read it!
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You know, I feel bad for the guys that dressed up as "Charlie's Fryes" and made their way into superfandom. I mean, what is Mensa going to do with all that extra fabric now?
LMFAO... Him and Derden are going to pour some ketchup on each other and stage a protest in Berea... 
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MUTT... Frye was drafted into a Mo Carthon offense...when Mo and Daviidson were let go, they had to hire a new OC... do you think the smart move was to hire the guy they thought would be the best OC, or the guy that woudl run the most Charlie Frye-friendly scheme?...yeah, guess that was just a dumb move to draft Charlie for the Chud system... 
Browns fans are born with it...
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Just clicking... I am just shocked by all this... still shocked by the pathetic display on Sunday and further shocked by this reaction, but what shocks me most is that no one from the organization has come out to get in front of this. It's bad management. I'm a huge FO supporter, I was (and am) a Frye supporter, (though obviously his time is up here  ) but I don't completely understand the thinking behind the move (partly because they haven't explained it and partly because of the timing of it) or the willingness to let speculation run rampant because by all outward appearances it looks like they're coming unglued. If anything deserved an immediate press conference, this would be it. 
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JC... WTAM is reporting DA scheduled to start on Sunday... www.wtam.com
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Here's the article:
Derek Anderson to start Sunday against the Bengals.
Tuesday, September 11, 2007
Charlie Frye photo gallery.
Browns GM Phil Savage addresses the media on the Charlie Frye trade.
(Cleveland) - You heard it first on Newsradio WTAM 1100...Charlie Frye is headed to the Pacific northwest.
Tthe Browns have traded their young quarterback to the Seattle Seahwaks to make room on the roster for veteran Ken Dorsey.
The Browns will get a second day draft (6th round) in return for Frye, a one-time University of Akron starter.
If they couldn't trade him, the Browns had planned to cut Frye.
Frye left the Browns facility in Berea without talking to reporters.
Dorsey was cut ten days before the season began. But after Frye’s dismal performance on Sunday against the Steelers, the decision was made to eliminate Frye.
In just over a quarter of play on Sunday against the Steelers, Frye was 4-of-10 for 34 yards and 1 INT. Frye was also sacked five times before giving way to Derek Anderson early in the second quarter.
The Browns will start Derek Anderson this weekend against the Bengals, but the fans on Sunday were chanting for rookie Brady Quinn.
The Seahawks have been in the market for a backup quarterback, which will free them up to use Seneca Wallace in other positions around the field.
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As of right now,,, 3:33 PM Tuesday September 11, 2007, there are 7 pages of responses on this thread about a QB that at least half the members of this board didn't think was worth a plug nickle,,, I'm amazed...LOL
And yet you have contributed to half of one of those pages I am sure..
At any rate, I think you nailed it earlier when you said that you understand the move but not the timing or way it was done... I am guessing that pretty much sums up 90% of the other poster's sentiments on here as well (to include me)...
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JC... WTAM is reporting DA scheduled to start on Sunday...
www.wtam.com
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The Browns will start Derek Anderson this weekend against the Bengals, but the fans on Sunday were chanting for rookie Brady Quinn.
.....and they will be doing it even louder this Sunday
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According to Savage's presser, our QBs will look like this.
Anderson--starter
Quinn--back-up
Dorsey--mentor
I wish to wash my Irish wristwatch......
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WKNR (Streaming it on line) is saying D.A. will start this week, and their taking bets on how long it will take it for Quinn to be the starter.
I'm not even going to go into why Frye got traded, why he didn't get the job done ect. We've tilled this ground enough. I just wish we had traded Anderson who I'm still wondering how he survived camp. This is one time I want Savage and R.C. to be wrong and find out they kept the (for the moment) wrong Q.B.
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Your right,they no had business drafting Frye in the 1st place....all he did was make the Browns fans feel all warm on the inside when he was drafted(way too high) cause he was a backyard boy...
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Wow, you love to troll this board.
Drafted too high? He was projected as a 2nd rounder.
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sorry, I know a lot more has been said since this post but it really stuck out. He was projected as a second rounder by the MEDIA.
What in his skill-set made him a potential second rounder though?? A 3rd rounder? It's not a knock on CF but I agree with Impact. At the very least, it wasn't a trolling comment.
The more popular explanation is that the browns 'finally' caught a break, Rogers slid down to 24 where GB nabbed him in the first, and therefore CF slid to us in the 3rd...
If this organization went to Akron to scout Frye as many times as we were told, they'd have realized he was a product of his system there...the WCO.
So you draft him and try to pidgeonhole him into a pocket passer which you absolutely knew he was not from your scouting excursions! I watched him play out of the shotgun at Akron most of the time and runnin-n-gunnin quite succesfully.
If he was not the guy for the system you had in mind why draft him? Then again, why ask, this group seems to have difficulties making decisions about anything.
I'm not saying he'll be a star by any means, but he'll settle into more of a comfort zone up there away from the "Hometown Boy" image and the Cleveland QB grinder... Next victim!!
Savage has blown a lot of mid-round picks.
Perkins, Wilson, Frye, even the trade for Dilfer. There are others.
I agree with you (I think) in that something went very wrong with Frye.
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