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Is this in reference to me? Or someone else?

Cause if it's to/about me, I must have missed where I said said it was okay to treat someone differently based on sexuality.

If arch would quit playing the "I have a gay son" card, I wouldn't discuss it. If he doesn't want it discussed, maybe he shouldn't bring it up?

I'm not the one who refuses to stand up for the rights of the gay community and try to make excuses for it by pulling the, "I have a gay son" card.

And if you dare question how great America actually is, and suggest it could and should be better, the President no less will tell you to leave the country. No irony or double standard here!! LOL.

So you don't think a baker should have to do business with a gay couple because his religion is more important than the rights of those who are gay? I could have sworn that you took the side of the baker.

Oh. This song and dance again. Got it.

Of course. You placed the value of religion over the equal rights of all Americans. That would include your son. I'm glad you get it now.

I didn't do anything of the sort. Thank you.

Jc

Fellow liberals,

Remember when the MAGA hatters claimed Ivanka would be the voice of reason to trump?

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This stupid argument again? The courts already ruled for the baker.

Would it infringe the religious rights of a Muslim restaurant if you forced them to cater a gay wedding? Would it infringe on their religious rights if they were forced to serve ham?

The gay couple targeted that bakery, and the courts ruled against them. Get over it. BTW, the when's the last time you marched in a pride parade?

Oh the ham argument. Guess what? Ham isn't on the menu in a Muslim restaurant. Cake is on the menu at a bakery.

You either think every American has the right to be served the same or you believe religious rights can be used as an excuse to treat some Americans differently. It's pretty simple. And I don't care which religion you're talking about.

It seems like you advocate religion can be used as a weapon to withhold services from certain people. I disagree

That same excuse was used on black people at one time. How did that work out?

Try devout muslims with a halal menu.

I'm not even religious and I can see why.

Not sure what that means, but I know people that voted for him and support him today and I know they aren't racist.

They just think he's the savior..... Of what, I'm not sure.

Like I said, they don't have pork on the menu. Bakers do have cake on the menu.

What ever are you talking about? No one refused to bake or sell them a cake, they just refused to decorate it with anything supporting a sin.

Wake up already.

Try asking them to decorate a cake with the words, "Don't tell my wife my girlfriend is beautiful."

They will show you the door.

It's a SIN? By whos standard?

If you don't know the answer to that, well, I will pray for you.

My point is, you argued with Pit about this but he was right, it's about religion.... That shouldn't even be a consideration.

Yeah, he made the perfect example of what I was talking about.(And I NEVER thought I would say that 40 was perfect at doing anything!).... "I don't have to treat you the same as everyone else because I think it's a sin!"

Religion being used as a weapon so that certain Americans aren't given equal treatment to other Americans based on religious beliefs.

Well lets see now...

You and Pit agree while the Supreme Court and I agree.

Hmmmmmm.

Well we know you think that's all that matters. You're from the "if you don't like it go back to where you came from" crowd.

There's often times a difference between the law and what's right.

And since you know we're right, you won't even tackle the subject at hand any type of actual debate.

Why am I not surprised that you would be on the side that allows religion be used to deny "certain people" the same right of service as others?

Well, according to the Polliticaly correct Sexual Harassament workshop class:

It's harassment whenever the "harassee" feels like they don't like it,

So, By that reasoning, It's whenever the baker feels it's a sin and doesn't want to make the cake.

C'mon folks, People can get a Cake Any Freakin where!

It's a bunch of flour and icing, we're not talking about Eye Surgery.

Well I guess that's an excuse why everyone shouldn't get the same service everywhere.

But everyone does get the same service at the Bakers.

White, Black, Rich or Poor, he ain't decorating your cake with things he considers sinful according to his religious beliefs.

Which once again means you believe religion rules over equal service to all Americans. You believe religious rights are more important than all Americans being treated equally. It's okay, you've made it clear that you feel using your religious beliefs to discriminate against certain groups of people is just fine.

For me personally, yes.

For my Nation, the Law of the Land covers that and the Supreme Court supports the baker.

Why do you fight so hard against America and her Laws?

Go back where you came from!

So, you really think devout muslims would cater a gay wedding.

I'd love to see a Native American get up in your face and tell you the same thing.

I fight for what I feel is right. Just as the people who founded this nation did. I fight for what I feel is right just like those who ended slavery did. I fight for what I feel is right just like the women of this nation did to secure their right to vote. I fight for what I feel is right just like those that fought for civil rights did. That's what true Patriots do.

They don't give up and leave. They help change this nation for the better.

Only people like you and your orange God seem to lack the understanding of what being a true American is and means.

If they're caterers I think they should provide catering services for everyone. However, it would have to be items from their menu that they serve. I don't know that they would. But it's no less wrong than a baker who refuses to serve someone who requests a cake from their menu.

Businesses have the right to refuse service to people for whatever reason, for instance
you can't get into some fancy restaurants while not being dressed up, and you can't get in to some places, wearing (sneakers), tennis shoes,
and McDonalds actually follows the signs they post that say "no shirt, no shoes, no service"

There is no age limit to become a Dallas Cowboy Cheerleader, but I bet they discriminate against people who have no charisma and can't move like the others move.

BTW- I would feel the exact same way if a gay owned bakery refused to bake a cake for a Christian couple who believes being gay is a sin.

But then again, I have never heard of that happening, have you? They would be willing to bake a cake and decorate it for the very same people that may discriminate against them. Maybe true Christians could learn a lesson from that?

Really? Let's see you refuse to refuse service to someone because they are black. You know, like people used to do and some of them too used religion as their excuse.

It is quite American to fight for changing laws you think are wrong but that is not what you do.

You attack and criticize those good Americans who obey our laws and respect the laws of the land.

Wondering out loud

I wonder what would happen if a white person walked into a bakery owned by a person of color and wanted to order a cake that said "All *insert N word* should be hung from trees.

Should that owner be forced to make the cake?

or you could switch that to All Mexicans with a slur against mexicans. or all Russians, Asians, Native Americans, Democrats, or Republicans?

You mean like those who fought to change and do away with existing laws? You do realize that slavery was legal by law, right? So according to your lack of logic, anyone who fought to change the law that allowed slavery was wrong. I mean plenty of people respected and obeyed the law of slavery too.

I could go on but even you know how stupid the point is you're trying to make.

Now you're just being obtuse.

That is an excellent question and I can answer it...

The Supreme Court says the owner can show you the door.

j/c

It amazes me the amount of people that can come up with off the wall BS to excuse discriminating against someone based on their sexuality by weaponizing religion. And people wonder why younger people are walking away from religion in droves. Some of you only have yourselves to blame.

It's hard for people to follow God when they can't see what God is supposed to stand for in his followers.

No I was being honest.

It is not discrimination against others or weaponizing religion.

It is however, the right to live your life by your own beliefs given you by a higher authority.

So far the democrats field no viable candidates for a national election in my mind. I mean your guys' candidates are so darn left that you don't have any moderates. A TON of people said if there was a better democrat candidate that came along they'd vote for that person. Since there isn't, they will most likely vote Trump.