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Well I like Buddha quite a bit but he never once claimed to be a god or God. Viewing him as devine came more from the Hindus who viewed him as a reincarnation of Vishnu but Bud never said that about himself.

There are many buddhists who view Jesus as a reincarnation of Buddha since many of his teachings and many of the miracles he performs are very similar.

The goals of Jesus and Buddha are extremely different though. For Jesus wants you to be saved and go to heaven while Buddha seeks to lead you to enlightened oblivion.

Any religion that leads to the denial of salvation from Jesus is not leading you to worship the same God.

Religion is kind of a joke.

There is no doubt a God. But he cares little for humans.

I see it every day.

Otherwise his creation would be perfect. There would be no cancer. No disease. He wouldn't murder little babies for no reason.

Religion is for fools. You think you have free will, but you don't.

The fact for religious people is:

You follow your religion and jump through all of God's hoops, and be a good pet, to God.

Because he has that carrot: Everlasting life in Heaven.

Yeah, go jump through some more hoops, suckers. It amuses God to no end that he can control you however he wishes, because carrots.

OR God uses that religion as an excuse to punish you.

AND if at any time God feels you aren't kissing up to him enough, he will kill your family, your pets, give you diseases, make disaster happen, etc.

Just go look at the Book Of Job to see how little God cares about humans.

He makes bets with the Devil (himself) to see how much he can torture a human before it folds. Yeah God cares so much about humans.

We are nothing to him. Mostly like ants on the floor to [censored] with.

Or go ask the Jews, how much they loved being cooked alive in ovens, because yenno, they didn't follow God's commands enough. They are his chosen people. Chosen to die.

And, for the record, I don't believe in Hell. Or the Devil. I feel that God is inherently evil.

My life experience with this is why I became apostate.

Losing Paradise | Angels and Demons



not surprised. basically showing how christians state crap that isnt even in the bible.

Christians are deluded in general.

Religion is supposed to be a covenant between God and Man.

But it's not.

Man tries really hard to hold up his end.

While God just laughs at the wool he pulled over Man's eyes.

I see you haven't really read about the garden if Eden and how man lost his protection from God. And if you even watch the news you can see man isn't really doing much if anything to hold up his end.

God's covenant isn't with "People in General"
It's supposed to be with the individual, because when you go to "Heaven" you are judged individually.

So are YOU holding up your end? Are YOU jumping through enough hoops?

I don't really believe in a "Christian Heaven".

I believe in an afterlife that is more organic than that and has little to do with "Religion". Religion is for suckers who want to be manipulated.

I'm actually not a fan of religion in general myself. But the bible does tell us that we will all face trials and tribulations. That we will all have our faith tested. So I don't see that as anything that goes outside the bounds of what the bible teaches us.

But for the most part, when it comes to the subject of religion, I think we agree. IMO religion has dome more to bastardize Christianity than to further it.

Ask Job about being tested when his children were killed for God's amusement. HIS CHILDREN

This is why I reject religion, and God.

I don't accept any sort of God who would hurt me for his own amusement just to somehow test my faith in him. Those are not the values I would consider righteous in a diety. Those are evil actions.

One thing about me you'll find, I've never tried to push my views on God or religion down the throats of others. I believe freedom of religion also means freedom from the religious beliefs of others. As such I feel we should respect the rights and respect others to believe as they so choose.

So while we may disagree on what we actually believe, I do not feel it ever is or will be my right to try and cram my beliefs down your throat. This is America. And as such everyone has the same right to believe as they so choose without enduring the judgement of others. Even those who do believe in the Bible should know you don't judge others. Even though it seems they forget that sometimes.

I don't try to preach to others. I am just sharing my views based on life experience, on this thread.

I didn't mean to insinuate that you were.

So your saying Hollywood embellished stories it told about the Bible Who would have ever thunk it.

Just Hollywood? lol please.

The 10 commandments weren't, God carved them on a stone.

Bumping this thread up so I can apologize to you. What I said was way out of line and wrong. No excuse is acceptible so I will just say I am sorry for the choice of words I used and the tone I took with them. I was wrong to lash out in frustration.

Don't worry about it GM were fine. I'm not even mad.

God is nothing but love. Love is god and god is love. Enjoy.

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Whatever put us here left a long time ago.

We all have a right to our own opinions

Ever hear of the “Hubble Deep Field”?

It’s a picture of space that the Hubble telescope took a few years back.

From earth, this photo is a tiny pin [censored] in the night sky.

Only two of the “lights” are milky way stars. The rest are all galaxies. (about ~ 10,000)



This is just a tiny pin [censored] in the night sky. Among trillions and trillions of pin pricks in every direction.

There’s at least 100 billion stars in the Milky Way. There’s more galaxies than that.

Science tells us this all came from a single infinitesimal point (The Big Bang).

Every single word in the bible is more believable than that.

Which part of the bible explains the universe, galaxies, billions of stars, etc.? It took god seven days to make the earth or to make it all? Because I mean other than let there be light, seems like he focused on earth for 6 of those days. Are we really that important in the grand scale of infinity?

Genesis 1:19; God made two great lights--the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars.

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We’re on the outer arm of a small and insignificant galaxy that is inching ever closer to a collision with the Andromeda galaxy, killing any living thing in each one of them.

We’re in the trailer park of galaxies and God is saying, “here, hold my beer”.

What's the second / lesser light? The moon? That doesn't emit light.

Genesis was from several thousand years prior to the birth of Christ. No one would have understood it if the scriptures would have said; "And a reflective orbiting body that would store the suns light and illuminate the night".

Also, it doesn't say "emits light". It says, in poetic language, "to govern the night".

I would add that we use the terms sunrise and sunset, and none of us believe that the sun somehow actually rises and sets over a stationary earth.

so its flawed... got it.

Not really, moonlight/star light provides a light quite well. It just isnt much appreciated in populated areas because of city light polution.

It doesn't provide any light. That is sunlight reflecting off of it.

Well, stars do in fact generate their own light. Moonlight doesnt, but it provides light via reflection.

1000's of years ago, when the old testament was written, they wouldnt know the difference.

The technical details may be debatable, but the end result is the same. Nightime light is indeed provided by heavenly bodies.

Mental gymnastics to maintain that the book is perfect.

Is a notion created by humans, to explain their existence. Nothing more, nothing less.

Let's look at the fallacy within your statements..

1. the Bible isn't a science book, was never intended to be.
2. you make the assumption that an omniscient God can only focus on one thing at a time.
3. you make the assumption that explaining what He was doing millions of light years away would have mattered to what He was creating on earth.

I am not a bible fantasist but without the moon there would be darkness at night. The moon doesn't make light but it is responsible for the light at night.

You are the one who added the qualifier that it needed to make light.

Christ would have come back a long time ago if what he says is true he would be like a king on this earth.

He doesn't want or need to be a king on this earth.

Mark 4 11/12

11He told them, “The secret of the kingdom of God has been given to you. But to those on the outside everything is said in parables 12. so that,

“ ‘they may be ever seeing but never perceiving,

and ever hearing but never understanding;

otherwise they might turn and be forgiven!’ a ”