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archbolddawg #1645543 08/03/19 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted By: archbolddawg
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bro you're so pathetic.


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I won't even go personal on you.


translation: i cant defend my position.

weak


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Originally Posted By: Swish
they believed it enough that a guy decided to shoot up the place over it.


Wouldn't that be "he" and not "they"?

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they believe in their "heritage" so much that a guy decided to ram his car into a crowd like ISIS over it.


Once again that's "he" not "they".

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not all of them have to believe it, they still ENDORSED it with their voting record. THATS the point.

for example, and just an example Pit. you claim you dont believe in all these conspiracy theories. but then you vote for the guy who keeps pushing these conspiracies to the point that people are actually getting hurt over it, as well as the republicans who push this nonsense.

or, you claim you're not a racist, but then vote for the guy who claimed the first black president wasnt a foreign born muslim, got sued by the government for racial discrimination, and then got caught stating he doesn't want black people touching his money.

sure, you dont have to believe it, but when you VOTE for that, make excuses, and then CONTINUE to vote for that, at the very minimum, you're sending the message to me that you've considered some of it, and that the racism doesnt bother you. at the MINIMUM.

and thats the message these maga hatters are sending bro. straight up.


We don't really disagree to a great extent. The only place we really disagree is that I don't feel everyone who votes for Trump is what you call a "MAGA hatter".

I don't believe a lot of them are conspiracy theorists.

Where we certainly do agree is that out of all of the candidates they had to choose from, the Republicans chose this ass clown from the entire field of candidates. They ignored his lies, his conspiracy theories and all of his racist tendencies that have gone along with it.

They seem to stick their fingers in their ears going, "la, la, la, la, la, la" to ignore the obvious signs of his intentions to sow racial divide in our country.

So we're not that far away from complete agreement.

The only thing is, I think a lot of people who voted for him the first time have regrets. I think some of them have a firm grasp of the obvious. And I think trying to label them as, "all being the same" isn't going to further garnering their votes. People make mistakes.


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we will see how many people have regrets.

obviously whoever the dem candidate is *could* have record turnout, as those who didn't bother showing up in 2016 most likely wont again in 2020.

but if trump gets anywhere near his 60 mill from last time, even if he loses, i wouldnt label that "regret"


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Neither would I.


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I would have far more regrets if that traitor Hillary had become president. I mean if you voted for a traitor then doesn't that make you a traitor too?

Between Hillary and Trump I will vote Trump all day long and never blink. The sad thing is that Dems don't even want to present a reasonable candidate to vote for. Hell I am a socialist and I wouldn't vote for these nutcases.


You can't fix stupid but you can destroy ignorance. When you destroy ignorance you remove the justifications for evil. If you want to destroy evil then educate our people. Hate is a tool of the stupid to deal with what they can't understand.
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So it's worse to vote for a person who was investigated for years that netted no indictments and no convictions, than it is to vote for a man who was investigated and it created a total of thirty-four individuals and three companies that were indicted. Eight have pleaded guilty to or been convicted of felonies, including five Trump associates and campaign officials.

And you wonder why people think some of you are nuts.


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Hillary was proven guilty. She sold off nuclear material to Russia and she illegally used top secret information off her public computer. She should be behind bars for treason. Flat out.


You can't fix stupid but you can destroy ignorance. When you destroy ignorance you remove the justifications for evil. If you want to destroy evil then educate our people. Hate is a tool of the stupid to deal with what they can't understand.
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We didn't even own the uranium. Canada did. And several government agencies signed off on the sale. Not :Hillary did it".

You should really educate yourself.

You do realize that Ivanka has used her personal computer too.

The Brazenness of Trump's White House Staff Using Private Email

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc...-server/541017/

Did Trump’s White House staff break the law by using private email? I asked 7 legal experts.

https://www.vox.com/2017/10/3/16384126/trump-white-house-private-email-kushner-bannon

At least 5 Trump aides used personal email for public business

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/25/trump-white-house-email-personal-243129

Get a clue man.


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and this is why Vers and the rest of you flip floppers on this board catch so much heat from me.

yall telling me i need to be nice and understand the pov of this trash talking points?


You got a big freaking mouth on you. Your name calling is old. I don't flip flop. I am consistent. I despise extremists and one-sided folks. And you are one o them.

You see..........no flip-flopping. You are part of the problem w/your one-sided views and constant message of hate and bias.

I don't want you to be "nice" to me. But, don't ask me to sympathize w/you when all you do is spread hate and bias w/your one-sided self!

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Sorry for going off. Not apologizing to you, Swish.

From my viewpoint, I think racism is real. I see it every damn day. Contrary to what some posters portray on here, I see it from both sides. I see white racists. I see black racists Neither is better or worse than the other.

I think that the most outrageous racists are the least harmful. Most folks know they are whack jobs and never take them seriously.

I think the most dangerous form of racism are the subtle undertones of our society. There are guys like Gronk and Baker who say all kinds of outrageous stuff and are publicly intoxicated. They are just "having fun" and are not "cookie cutter" players. Yet, if a black dude like OBJ or Zeke says or does something much less inflammatory, they are assigned negative labels.

Likewise, there are folks who say stupid crap like they wonder if all Republicans are racist. They say absurd things like whites want blacks to be nice to them. They want to shoot cops. They want to label all whites together.

There is no difference in the grand scheme of things. I will say that I understand why blacks are more bitter. No doubt about that one. But, a racist is a racist no mater his color.

White are the majority. They don't have to change. Blacks are the minority. They should desire change. Knowing that............why in God's name would you want to alienate the very same people you wish to change?

Think about that.

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I think at times "the Talk" that people have mentioned can be part of the problem. If you look stressed out and nervous, a police officer is likely to wonder why and his/her adrenaline is likely to start pumping.

Are there terrible, racist cops? For sure. But, are there also people who have been raised to hate/distrust cops? Yes, this also seems to be true.

However, I feel like the individuals at those extremes of being willing to kill each other are blown out of proportion.

I feel like if "normal" people go into a situation wondering if the other party could be one of those extremists it can be something of a self-fulfilling prophecy. People tend to see what they expect to see. They look for things to confirm those expectations often passing over contradictory information because it's not what they are looking for.

Instead of teaching distrust, which seems to generally lead to conflict, trying to instill an attitude of "trust, but verify" might be a better approach. If you're being pulled over, calmly turn on your phone's camera as soon as you pull over. Don't be aggressive about it, but non-chalantly mention it with your hands in plain sight.

I think racism kind of can work similarly. If you're constantly looking for it, you're likely to think you see it all the time. That's not to say it doesn't exist, but a false accusation can lead to feelings of being attacked, which lead to feelings of hostility, which can lead to lashing out/back, which can take the form of "racism."

With regards to politics, is a horrible person that is good for your family's financial wellbeing or a "good person" who is horrible for your family's financial wellbeing a better choice? In my opinion, it's awful either way.

I didn't and won't vote for Trump, but in some ways I can almost understand it. Yes, he's a horrible person, but as president he'll be the most highly scrutinized person in the world, presumably tempering his worst tendencies.

Bleh, I actually still can't really understand it. He should be starring on a bad reality TV show rather than "running" a country. It does kind of feel like they could be shooting the series "Bad President" with a cringeworthy accompanying Twitter campaign. Am I getting Punk'd?


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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
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PDR prolly made it up .. no way i said it dude .. not a shot ..

U don’t now me at all ...

Guess u don’t want to meet no more ... *L* ...

Life’s to short for people with your tude bro ...

Enjoy your gifts (your girls) and good luck dawg ... thumbsup

u won’t be hearing from me no more ...


No need to be like that diam. You posted something to that effect and when you were called a racist over it you got miffed and quit posting in here. But we all say crap from time to time we don't mean or came out different than we meant. I haven't really seen you do other racists stuff so I accept it was a mistake they way you posted it.


I never posted anything like that ... i know that for many reasons ....

One of them ... i spent plenty of time in NYC and Times Square from 83 - 85 ... loved Times Square ... and the scummy Times Square had diddly to do with folks of any specific color it was just a hell hole .. it was a ghost town at night and for good reason and it wasn’t cause of the brown folks ...

I’ll say this .. i wouldn't go to Harlem after dark back then .. NOT A SHOT IN HELL ... and that was 100% about black people ... that didn’t make me a racist, it made me SMART ... thumbsup

I do appreciate the fact u at least said i don’t do racist things .. u guys don't know me from a hole in the wall when it comes to this ... ya’all called me a racist pretty much from the begging for two reasons ...

1. I supported Trump ..
2. I want a wall because were letting drugs, human trafficking and criminals walk right in .. so i posted articles of illegals that killed Americans ... i’m not sure how that makes me racist to this day ... i was befuddled when i was called a racist for that ... i was being called a racist because i did not like the fact America’s were being murdered by people that shouldn’t be here .. *shrugs* ..

And i’l tell u something else ... i’m one crappy racist and it truly amazes me swish did that earlier ...

1. He asked what folks thought about him taking a loan and buying more rental properties .. another thing u guys have no clue about me is what i did for living ... i was a business guy at a good time to be one .. *L* ... i reached out to him .. told him all i could until i needed more info .. unlike most on here ... i’m not going to offer advice unless i have the DETAILS .. their actually important .. i know MONEY ... still do to this day ..

I REACHED OUT AND OFFERED HIM HELP ANYTIME HE WANTED IT ..

Sounds Ike a racist to me .. rolleyes ...

2. I reached out to Swish like a man and apologized to him for the all the things i said about him in here ... we had a nice chat and he apologized to me ... neither of us have any back down in us and he lied about me constantly ... calling me a lush and asking me how stoned i was all the time .. it got nasty at times between him and I ..

I told him i would like to meet him and shake his hand and apologize face to face and he old punch me if he would like .. thats how i was raised .. he said he’d like to meet and wouldn’t punch me .. *L* ...

Another trait of a racist .. rolleyes ..




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Originally Posted By: archbolddawg
I don't want to get involved, but...........I thought it was someone else that said it. Maybe I'm mistaken.


YOUR NOT WRONG ARCH ... it was 100% not me ...

Thanks, I appreciate it .. be smart and take cover ... i’ll be just fine .. I KNOW WHO I AM .. nuttin swish or anyone else on here can say to me that will make me doubt who i am or the life i’ve lived ..




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*LOL* .. i quit posting in here cause i couldn’t behave like an adult ... i left this place three of four times cause of that ...

Even u and i are getting along now cause i’m Behaving like an adult .. thumbsup

Your mis remembering that also .. thumbsup




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White are the majority. They don't have to change. Blacks are the minority. They should desire change.


lol i swear yall get upset with me then turn around and prove the very thing i've been saying for years on this board.

there's white people, and then there's everybody else. whites dont have to change, but minorities do.

way to confirm to the masses that we are indeed second class citizens. we aren't equal whatsoever. cause if it wasn't true, then it wouldnt matter WHO is the majority if everyone is being treated equally.

i caught heat on the board for explaining to people who languages work with regards to God and Allah. now the christians are using my very arguments in their post.

i caught heat for explaining how black americans are still treated as second class citizens, now the very people are using that argument in their post.

i caught heat from diam about his comments on brown people in time square. and what does he do? confirms that he most certainly said it by saying such racist crap on harlem and black people. which, btw, lets us know he most certainly hasnt been back there any time recently, or he would've notice the slight increase in white people living there. harlem is starting to turn straight up hipster.

i get amazing laughs on this board for the circles yall run trying to flex up on me, only to agree with my very points in the end.

this is why i will continue to go absolutely hard in the paint on yall asses. Vers literally just flip flopped his way into agreement while thinking he's sounding tough.

this crap has me WEAK. im dying right now lmfao


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You only used part of my quote and that changed the context of what I was trying to say.

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Originally Posted By: Swish
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White are the majority. They don't have to change. Blacks are the minority. They should desire change.


lol i swear yall get upset with me then turn around and prove the very thing i've been saying for years on this board.

there's white people, and then there's everybody else. whites dont have to change, but minorities do.

way to confirm to the masses that we are indeed second class citizens. we aren't equal whatsoever. cause if it wasn't true, then it wouldnt matter WHO is the majority if everyone is being treated equally.

i caught heat on the board for explaining to people who languages work with regards to God and Allah. now the christians are using my very arguments in their post.

i caught heat for explaining how black americans are still treated as second class citizens, now the very people are using that argument in their post.

i caught heat from diam about his comments on brown people in time square. and what does he do? confirms that he most certainly said it by saying such racist crap on harlem and black people. which, btw, lets us know he most certainly hasnt been back there any time recently, or he would've notice the slight increase in white people living there. harlem is starting to turn straight up hipster.

i get amazing laughs on this board for the circles yall run trying to flex up on me, only to agree with my very points in the end.

this is why i will continue to go absolutely hard in the paint on yall asses. Vers literally just flip flopped his way into agreement while thinking he's sounding tough.

this crap has me WEAK. im dying right now lmfao


The above post is buzzed, bigoted crap.

U.S. businesses and schools are dying for qualified African American applicants.

And they have been for over 30 years.

The door is wide open for any black willing to strive for achievement and success.

All they gotta do - like most of us - is work for it.



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What was that? Sorry, still can’t take you seriously after your non stop racist post and disgusting images of burnt bodies you posted. You can forever kick rocks.


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if you willingly and voluntarily vote for a racist, what do you expect to be called?


To smart to vote for Hillary willynilly


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if you willingly and voluntarily vote for a racist, what do you expect to be called?


To smart to vote for Hillary willynilly


Your hate will get you no where with thy maker bro.


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if you willingly and voluntarily vote for a racist, what do you expect to be called?


To smart to vote for Hillary willynilly


Please tell me the spelling error was intentional.


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if you willingly and voluntarily vote for a racist, what do you expect to be called?


To smart to vote for Hillary willynilly


Your hate will get you no where with thy maker bro.


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if you willingly and voluntarily vote for a racist, what do you expect to be called?


To smart to vote for Hillary willynilly


Please tell me the spelling error was intentional.


To smart too vote for Hillary.... hows that wink


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I think no matter who you voted for in that election shows some amount of stupidity was involved.


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Originally Posted By: PerfectSpiral
God is love ...love is god. Love thy neighbor. Love is all there is.


Unfortunately, if God is love, wiping out >99% of the world's population (biblical flood) was an act of love. Effectively, mass murder as love. We wonder why we end up with twisted people.

There are undoubtedly good messages in the Bible, but they're mixed throughout a tapestry of bloodshed.

If there were only an Old Testament or only a New Testament, perhaps I could still believe. The juxtaposition of the two is somewhat absurd, though.

An infallible, all-knowing, immortal, ever-present, allegedly unchanging entity and that book is the best "He" could come up with?

The Bible as an attempt of a group of humans to make sense of the world as they knew it with less developed science than now seems more realistic.

Is your neighbor more likely to take your advice or follow the instructions of an unfathomable god with the power to subject him to eternal torment?

We're still trying to figure out how to get people to follow the rules. Religion did the job for a long time.


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That was in The Old Testament. He mellowed out a lot after he had a kid.


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I think no matter who you voted for in that election shows some amount of stupidity was involved.


As I said at the time. Damned if we do, and damned if we don't.


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Originally Posted By: Swish


if you vote for a racist, and then we ALL know you're gonna vote for him again 2020 even after all the racist things that has transpired between the 4 years, how else are we suppose to view you?


Trump is about to execute a white supremacist,
while trying to free a Black rapper from jail,
as he pushes prison reform that directly benefits families of Black men,
while calling out a city where minorities are victims of crime and blight.

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He sucks at it.

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I think no matter who you voted for in that election shows some amount of stupidity was involved.


Ya cause not participating somehow makes u smarter or more “moral” then those of us that didn’t decide to sit on the fence ... thumbsdown ...




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If you vote for someone who isn't fit to be president, don't make it sound like I'm the one who made the mistake.


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I didn’t make a mistake bro ... your opinion is not the be all end all anywhere but in your household ... maybe one day you’ll realize that ...

This time you get to vote for the POC in your opinion or some version of more government control ....

Will u ride the fence again or vote to hand over more to our incompetent government who has proven time and time again they can’t run squat ...

Meanwhile i’ll make a choice and it will NEVER BE FOR MORE GOVERNMENT CONTROL ... EVER ... i’m not a moron and actually learn from the years and years and years of data that our government has no clue how to run a dang thing ....




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*L* .... i can’t even imagine witch way that post went ..




Bull_Dawg #1645957 08/05/19 08:15 AM
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God is love ...love is god. Love thy neighbor. Love is all there is.


Unfortunately, if God is love, wiping out >99% of the world's population (biblical flood) was an act of love. Effectively, mass murder as love. We wonder why we end up with twisted people.

There are undoubtedly good messages in the Bible, but they're mixed throughout a tapestry of bloodshed.

If there were only an Old Testament or only a New Testament, perhaps I could still believe. The juxtaposition of the two is somewhat absurd, though.

An infallible, all-knowing, immortal, ever-present, allegedly unchanging entity and that book is the best "He" could come up with?

The Bible as an attempt of a group of humans to make sense of the world as they knew it with less developed science than now seems more realistic.

Is your neighbor more likely to take your advice or follow the instructions of an unfathomable god with the power to subject him to eternal torment,

We're still trying to figure out how to get people to follow the rules. Religion did the job for a long time.



Obviously the term god means something different to you then me. Have a great day. Love you.


"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson.
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our incompetent government who has proven time and time again they can’t run squat ...


trump owns this incompetent government. Under his racist watch it has become much worse when it comes to race relations.


"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson.
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I constantly get accused of letting CNN taint my thinking.., During the debates last week, I had to hunt around to even find it... I don't ever watch it.,.. LOL

Too for Left for me.


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You lost me at 'taint' because I'm mentally conditioned not to go further down that path. wink

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White people are the worst.

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