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Leave GM alone. He's nothing like that and you damn well know it.

You claimed I just ignored it. That was false.

So, more name calling now?

A person is anti abortion, and that makes that person White ISIS?

It's what those guys do. They are full of hate and self-entitlement.

'Those guys' sounds a lot like 'those people' for some 'please don't label groups' preacher to be slinging around.

I don't think this country would be in any better shape if Hillary was the President. now you can try to put me in any group you want to. It's no skin off my nose, and doesn't bother me at all.

A person who supports and voted for trump supports the White Isis targeting and terrorizing Latin Americans and other minorities in the USA. It’s the trump era. You all own this.

Lol ... whatever. You voted for this pos. People like you need to change not those who appose trump’s policies and hate rhetoric. You are part of the problem.

No, he is not part of the problem. You are w/your mindless, hateful rhetoric.

And you’re all good with trumps’s mindless, hateful rhetoric Lol. Now pull your usual flip flop routine bro. Enough is enough. You all own this crap. You all voted for this pos. Step up and speak out against and reject his rhetoric or you all will remain part of the problem. I’m done here.

I didn't vote for Trump and I can't stand the guy. However, I can't stand how narrow-minded you are. I am glad you are done, though.

I think this one is big enough for you to see your ego in

GM what you did in 2016 is one thing because you made a choice based on the facts you had then... 2020 is another story with new facts... A vote for Trump again definitely makes you part of the problem, that goes for anyone who votes for him. This election will separate the truly deplorable from those who held their nose in 2016. I don't care who is running against him, he is the worst.

Vers is always playing both sides from the middle... such a sad little man.

Your name calling and insults will never result in me hating large groups of people. There are individuals who I don't like due to their hateful, one-sided ways.....but, I refuse to brand large groups of people.

That is not playing the middle. It's not being a fence-rider. It's about being fair and open minded. I'll leave the hating to guys like you and Trump.

That's what you say, but you turn around and get aggressive in damn near every post you make all over the board! I think you just like to argue and that seems to define your positions. I don't care where you land on any one topic or if we agree, but you can't call yourself an open minded democrat while supporting republican ideals!

Finding things in the other parties platform that you can get behind is pretty much the definition of open-minded. Saying you believe in every single thing one party believes, well that either means you aren't open-minded at all.. or it's one hell of a coincidence.

If I go around saying I'm for Trump in 2020, would you still consider me a progressive extremist? There is nothing wrong with saying you like something the other team is doing, but if it flies in the face of democrat values, it's hard to call yourself a dem. But some posters pick and choose things like a buffet and or come down squarely on the fence in many cases... they may like to think they are right or left, but they are middle. Right now there is not much room for the middle to be saying they are dems while arguing for Trump.

Who did you vote for in 2016?

You know what I did, I've said it many times and said I regretted it.

Perhaps you might want to back off on others and stop pretending you know who they will vote for. You are not the moral conscience of this board, bro. You didn't even vote. Time for you to stand-down a bit.

NOPE.

and I will vote Dem this time if they just run a candidate better than Trump. I mean that shouldn't be hard to do should it???

Depends on your definition of “better than” Trump ... thats a broad statement ...

Just how much control of our lives are u willing to give government? ... i realize no candidate supports all these but i believe every single one of them supports at least two of the following:

U ok with single payer HC?
U ok with free HC for illegals?
U ok with open borders?
U ok U ok with free college?
U ok with higher taxes on corporations? ... we all know corps don’t pay taxes they just pass them on to us or simply leave ... but that kills the talking point and facts aren’t important ...
U ok with reparations?
U ok with all the jobs trumps tax cuts and de-regulation leaving again?
U ok with the new green deal and all that comes with it?
U ok with an expanded Supreme Court?

Let me know then on the above and then i’ll put up the rest of the list ...

Actually many of those candidates believe in an option to keep your current insurance. So this is false.



Yeah, I don't like that either.



This is just another lie that's being perpetuated. See, they've created things called drones and have great surveillance tools like satellites. Some people prefer 21st century methods instead of things like walls. You know, those things they built in China during the 7th century BC until the 1800's.



And once again, not all of them endorse "free college". It's hard to know what they believe when you refuse to actually listen to them and only repeat GOP talking points.



You mean to repeal over 60% of the last tax cuts that went to the 1%? Not a bad idea. Glad you brought that up.



Do you have any idea how many of them aren't proposing that? I didn't think so.



Trump is on the same job growth trajectory Obama was. Or were you supporting allowing coal companies to once again dump coal ash into our rivers or streams? It's hard to tell.



You do realize that was a non binding resolution and not a law or mandate, right? I didn't think so.



How many running for the nomination support that?



You really need to do better at making lists. Because you've been fooled into believing a lot of BS.

Not directed a me but figured I'd jump on board.

1. I believe that everyone in the USA deserves healthcare and that people who are prudent and have healthcare coverage all their lives should never be made bankrupt thru the misfortune off getting the "wrong" disease. I believe if you are wealthy and you want to pay more to get better healthcare, knock yourselves out.

2. No. Nor should they vote or get a driving licence.

3. Hell no.

4. No - but the cost of education has spiraled out of control. The richest universities have Billions in endowments (https://eu.usatoday.com/story/money/busi...funds/39230729/) .... to put $Billions into context - a million seconds is 11 1/2 days ... a Billion seconds is 31+ years (A trillion is 37,000 years).

5. I think where they are now is about right. They could be a couple of percent higher or lower based on the world economy and how competitive we are. . . . finding a way to equitably tax corporations that have the majority of their operation in the USA but HQ themselves in zero or low tax countries as a work around would be nice.... I'm not smart enough to know exactly how.

6. I think it's a worthwhile discussion to have. I don't know what or where the discussion could go. I've heard a wide range of potential thoughts ... I don't agree with any of them at this time - but worth a transparent and honest discussion... As I stated the other day - White Privilege is fact, born by statistics. Take ANY level of society and compare the average Caucasian vs the average black or minority, and the statistics are unequivocal - whites are ahead everywhere. Colleges, top jobs, middle income, low income .... even when you look at the dregs of society and criminals - whites fare better then minorities. Now ... maybe you or others believe that's a reflection of minorities being lazy or there is something self inflicted that prevents them from doing as well as their white counterparts ??? I don't I believe the statistics you see are the reflection of inherent bias built into our every day lives.

7. Ummmmm - You are misinformed here. The tax cut largely went to the benefit of the wealthy. It did nothing to help the economy or jobs. That's been proven.

8. I don't know much about it. I suspect that - based on the people who promoted it - it will be too extreme and not be founded in achievable objectives.... I do think global warming is real and needs addressing as a priority. I do think the environment is worth preserving and the head of the EPA should be someone who believes in the department and the work it does as opposed to a vocal adversary.

9. No. But let's just reflect on the contempt and hypocrisy of Mitch McConnell and the GOP. Obama nominated a relative centrist - was stonewalled and blocked. Trump has nominated the extreme right ..... and THEN when asked about the same situation as Obama faced, said he would absolutely force the nomination through. Total BS.

I read the first response and stopped ..

It was a question ... how can a question be true or false ...

Man .. you’ve turned into that what u say u hate ..

I don’t get it ..

Sheesh ... a question is false ... ...

When the question is based in falsehoods, it isn't a legitimate question to being with. Let me give you an example....

Are you okay with Republicans taking away all medicare and medicaid away from all Americans?

See, the question was based on a false premise. So were most of yours.

Just want to make sure i understand your answers correctly ... please correct anything i’ve Mis understood ...

1. So u believe in single payer with the ability to pay out of your own pocket for “better” health care ..

2/3. Flat out no ...

4. U don’t believe in free college .. but u think the cost is outrageous especially when u consider the war chests these colleges have ....

5. Your pretty good with the corp. taxes the way they re now but wouldn’t mind if they went up a wee bit ...

6. So you’d like a discussion to gather more info and then make a more educated decision on reparations ..

7. U mis understood my question .... i was referring to the corporate tax cuts and de-regulation that has brought back plenty of jobs from overseas or from across the border and allowed companies to expand that were all ready here due to the tax cuts they received ...

It had nothing to do with the personal income tax rate cuts and other tweeks he made to the tax code your referring too ...

Did that clarify what i’m Looking for here? ... if not, i’ll try again ... *L* ...

8. So u believe climate change needs to be addressed, u don’t know much about the proposals out there and u don’t like the head of the EPA ...

9. So u think the current number is fine ....

Let me know if that’s an accurate summary and where i mis understood ...

Thanks for replying w/o looking for something thats not there .... appreciate it ..

I'd say that's a cop out myself. If you think Pit made a wrong assumption then tell him. jmo

Then stop asking questions that aren't accurate. Please point out anywhere in my comments that were incorrect? That's right, you can't.

Pretty much.

5. Corp tax rate can also go down a wee bit too in some cases.

7. If you can supply any data to show the impact of the tax cuts I'd be interested. Isn't this tied to Q5? - I'm happy with where the rate is - so if we leave it as is this Q7 is moot? Or am I cunfuddled again?

Go back and read his question on single payer HC - then look at your answer. You said it was "false" - you are making assumptions because the answer to a simple question can't be "false"....

Not really on topic, Are we?

Pit and i will be fine ... eventually ... *L* ..

I’m not looking for a fight ... so i’ll stop there ...

I’m not sure why u think its a cop out ... especially with how “convo’s” go in here ,,,

I’ll stop now ...

*L* ... i’ve never heard of a question being accurate or inaccurate ...

May be that oughta be a clue as to why i stopped reading it ...

You win .. your way to smart for me and i have no answers to the awesome responses i’m sure u had that i didn’t read ... good job ...

5. Hmmm .... u have any examples of when you’d be OK with it going down ... very curious ...

7. Guess i wasn’t clear enough ... it’s so hard to communicate on here sometimes ... its not that important ... thanks for trying ...

It sounds like u don’t really want much government control u want practical solutions to problems and not more government control ...

If thats a correct statement its not what i expected ... its why i ask questions .... to bad Pit thinks there inaccurate questions ... I’ve never heard of such a thing ... i’ve Been told i askstupid questions but up til now no ones every graded my accuracy on them ... *L* ...

Who do u like at this point?

I actually think you have somewhat of a point on many of the issues you pointed out "depnding on who is nominated by the Democrats."

The only real issue is that many of the points you brought up are not shared by some of the candidates running for the Democratic nomination.

Actually, with Biden most of the points you brought up do not apply.

And once again,nobody, not a single Democrat is "for open borders". That's just a GOP talking point.

Now if you actually wish to discuss that topis rather than dismiss anyone and everyone who disagrees with you, let me know.

Orphaned babies make great photo ops!
Someone please defend this moron.

Gun control executive orders...


Politicians.