First, I'm not religious. I have a different view of things than most people. I did some of the things I did just to see if I could. I guess the 70s had too many movies where the cat burglar/thief was the hero, not to mention the many different versions of Robin hood. I never stole anything. I never hurt anyone, other than those I got in fights with. I also didn't start the fights.
I have also stated many times that I'm not racist. I treat people how I'd like to be treated. Sometimes it doesn't matter how I treat people, as they already have a prejudice. Where I grew up, the difference was officer or enlisted kids. My dad was enlisted. Most officer kids were white, while enlisted kids were white, black, Asian mix, or whatever. I never considered color differences until my dad bought a house. None of the black kids wanted anything to do with me because I was white. That was my first experience with race/cultural differences.
Some crimes are unforgivable. Child molestation is one of those. Rape, murder, or others that take a life or destroy a life should be unforgivable, with the exception of self defense or defense of the helpless.
As for me being righteous, I try to live a in a way to not negatively affect others. I don't lie, cheat, or steal, and try to treat others as I'd like to be treated. I just try to live a good life.
I have also stated many times that I'm not racist. I treat people how I'd like to be treated. Sometimes it doesn't matter how I treat people, as they already have a prejudice.
Go no further than that paragraph.
When points are made the the leftist/ liberal/ democrat can't refute, they pull out the 'racist' thing. It's like the last straw they have.
And you can see how many are down to the last straw.
I have also stated many times that I'm not racist. I treat people how I'd like to be treated. Sometimes it doesn't matter how I treat people, as they already have a prejudice.
Go no further than that paragraph.
When points are made the the leftist/ liberal/ democrat can't refute, they pull out the 'racist' thing. It's like the last straw they have.
And you can see how many are down to the last straw.
I know. The sky is blue. Racist! I like beef stew. Racist! Today is Sunday. Racist!
Before long, the word will lose all neaning, as they use it for everything.
Ya know..........I get on guys like Swish, OCD, and others about race, but you guys gotta be kidding me.
Are you suggesting that racism is just a figment of our imaginations? Are you suggesting that minorities are not racially profiled? Are you suggesting that there are not different criteria for minorities and whites?
Cut the crap!
Racism is real! It's a huge issue in our society.
I only get on Swish and those guys because I don't want them to act like the white racists that have made hate and bias a force in our country. I never felt that two wrongs make a right. I never believed in becoming what you hate.
That is why I get on them. It sure as hell isn't because racism doesn't exist. It's not even a freaking question. Racism is a real.
I do contend that when folks try to make a racial statement out of nothing that it actually hurts their cause. I also say that there are plenty of minorities that are just as racist as some whites. There are racists in all races.
But, let's be real here..............this is not some fantasy land story. Racism is real!
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I do contend that when folks try to make a racial statement out of nothing that it actually hurts their cause. I also say that there are plenty of minorities that are just as racist as some whites. There are racists in all races.
But, let's be real here..............this is not some fantasy land story. Racism is real!
I agree, 100%.
Problem is, like you said, when 'racist' is overused, it hurts the REAL racism.
The same people who call the government the deep state is telling others to completely obey said governments law enforcement agencies and extensions (state/local law enforcement).
Obey the law...unless it’s the British. Obey the law...unless it’s the union. Obey the law.....unless it’s trump. Then they’re more than happy to break the law and protest against the government.
But be a black American and do the same thing? Protest corrupt government and fight to change the law?
Know your place, boy.
Guys like Arch and Erik are sending that VERY message yet are completely unaware of it.
Or....maybe they are. I dunno.
Like I said in multiple threads, you see people keep claiming they’re against something like racism, yet the moment it pops up, they do everything they can to defend and excuse it. Then they vote for it to top it all off.
OCD, I have no idea what they want me to do with the rock solid evidence they keep providing me. I can only come to these conclusions based on the evidence provided.
Wasn't there a special needs instructor literally sitting on the ground with hands up who got shot in the leg trying to protect a special needs student?
Yes. The black dude was laying on the ground with his hands up! Trying to explain to the cops who had their weapon aimed at a student that he was special needs.
And yet somehow, HE got shot obeying orders.
Laying on the ground. Hands up. Obeying orders.
Still got shot.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
And my beef is that people who look like me have to constantly point out that white guys are getting unjustly shot as well, but some of y’all are so stuck on obeying everything law enforcement tells you, and more importantly, BELIEVE everything law enforcement tells you, that when you talk about limited government, you can’t be taken seriously whatsoever.
A couple years ago it was a big thing that some 19 year old white kid got shot trying to drive off from buying some weed or something. Cop claimed he feared for his life (lmfao) and shot at the kid while he was driving off, killing him.
Black people were more outraged than white people were. Seems like we care more about y’all kids, than y’all do.
I dunno, maybe that has something to do with why the mass shooters always seem to be loner white boys.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
This video is a year old but it was in my news feed on FB this morning sandwiched in between two pro Trump memes... I think it's worth a watch and will be interesting to see what individual posters think of it:
I dunno, maybe that has something to do with why the mass shooters always seem to be loner white boys.
You mean like the Ft Hood, San Bernadino, DC Navy yard, or DC sniper shooters? How about all the shooters in Chicago, Baltimore, Houston, LA, and all the other black on black shootings the media refuses to report because they're not sensational enough?
I find it funny when you talk about other's credibility.
thats because the majority of mass shooters are white.
thats a fact. again, you have zero credibility.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Of 114 mass shootings - using the Congress definition - between 1982 and May 2019, 110 were carried out by men.
The final four are made up of three women, and one case of one man and a woman working together in the San Bernardino attack in December 2015.
According to Statista analysis, in the same time-frame 64 of the perpetrators were white, while 19 were black, 10 Latino and eight Asian.
:: 'Perhaps more has to be done': Donald Trump speaks out after 29 killed in mass shootings
About 60% of America is white-only, while current stats show white people carry out about 58% of shootings. But as a proportion of all races and shootings, white people far outstrip others.
i mean think about how sad it is, that you have to add up the ENTIRE minority demographic to compare it to white shooters, and yet the majority of mass shootings is still committed by white men.
then it completely falls apart when compared by individual ethnicity. compare white mass shooters to JUST black mass shooters...it aint close.
compare white mass shooters to JUST hispanic/latinos....it aint close.
compare white mass shooters to JUST arab/asian....it aint close.
and whats worse, instead of addressing WHY so we can talk about solutions to get people from feeling the need to commit these crimes, all you EVER do is play whatabout.
again, you have NO credibility. there is no point of discussing this further with you because....well, you already know how i view you.
criminal.
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“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
most of yall are white, and its your demographic that has the highest rate of suicide, hard drug abuse, and life expectancy drop.
yet somehow, its the colored peoples fault, even though it clearly appears that we can about yall lives more than you do.
smh.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
i cant hate my parents did dumb crap like this, it was embarrassing when my gf was over.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Trump will be held responsible for his hateful racist rhetoric eventually. As will the majority of Americans, will eventually be browner then you and me.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson.
White Mississippi sheriff calls lawmaker ‘worse than a black person’ in text
JACKSON, Miss. – A Mississippi sheriff made a racist remark in a text message, a public records request by a local newspaper reveals, and then, when questioned about the comment, said he was "aggravated" at the time.
The Daily Journal reported Tuesday that Sheriff Jim Johnson in August 2017 "described a local white legislator as 'worse than a black person' in a text to a local official."
Johnson could not immediately be reached for comment by the Clarion Ledger on Tuesday afternoon.
The Daily Journal report comes after the newspaper recently obtained messages between Johnson and three county supervisors on the county-owned phones via a public records request. The texts date from 2017 to February.
In August 2017, Johnson sent a series of text messages to Lee County District 1 Supervisor Phil Morgan. In the texts, "Johnson complained about Tupelo state Rep. Shane Aquirre’s involvement in then-current debates about Lee County’s jail," the paper reported.
“He’s worse than a black person, your(sic) not going to please him," the text read.
When questioned about the comment, Johnson, who is white, told the paper, "I was aggravated at (Aquirre)," adding, "There was probably no call for mentioning anything of race."
Then, when the paper asked Johnson "if he believes the racist idea that black people are difficult to please," the sheriff responded, "I think when you play the race card, yes, it's difficult to please some people."
Johnson told The Daily Journal that he is not racist, saying, "God made us all the same. I don’t treat anybody any different."
Lee County is 30 percent African American, according to the latest census data.
Johnson was first elected sheriff in 2004. A Republican, he did not face an opponent in the August primary. He's facing a Democratic challenger, Jermandy Jackson, in the general election in November.
This video is a year old but it was in my news feed on FB this morning sandwiched in between two pro Trump memes... I think it's worth a watch and will be interesting to see what individual posters think of it:
I had not seen this one before but it speaks to two things I've always believed.. not all Trump supporters were (or are) horrible, no matter how badly some people want to convince me of that. Some are, I don't think that fact can be disputed... In fact, I would love it if somebody could follow up with some of the people in this video to see what (if anything) they believe has changed in themselves or in the culture since this was made...
And secondly, there is no substitute for listening and understanding when it comes to bridging divides. Yelling and shouting in your own bubble does absolutely NOTHING to solve problems. Kudos to the guy brave enough to hand over the mic, kudos to the guy who took the mic and delivered a very good message.
Ya know..........I get on guys like Swish, OCD, and others about race, but you guys gotta be kidding me.
Are you suggesting that racism is just a figment of our imaginations? Are you suggesting that minorities are not racially profiled? Are you suggesting that there are not different criteria for minorities and whites?
Cut the crap!
Racism is real! It's a huge issue in our society.
I only get on Swish and those guys because I don't want them to act like the white racists that have made hate and bias a force in our country. I never felt that two wrongs make a right. I never believed in becoming what you hate.
That is why I get on them. It sure as hell isn't because racism doesn't exist. It's not even a freaking question. Racism is a real.
I do contend that when folks try to make a racial statement out of nothing that it actually hurts their cause. I also say that there are plenty of minorities that are just as racist as some whites. There are racists in all races.
But, let's be real here..............this is not some fantasy land story. Racism is real!
Nice post Vers. But the good and bad people on both sides is getting kind of stale in this trump era. Yes racist’s exist everywhere and they need to be beaten back down wackamole style when they pop their deplorable heads out of the ground. But that isn’t happening with trump grandstanding as a grand wizard.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson.
I had not seen this one before but it speaks to two things I've always believed.. not all Trump supporters were (or are) horrible, no matter how badly some people want to convince me of that. Some are, I don't think that fact can be disputed... In fact, I would love it if somebody could follow up with some of the people in this video to see what (if anything) they believe has changed in themselves or in the culture since this was made...
And secondly, there is no substitute for listening and understanding when it comes to bridging divides. Yelling and shouting in your own bubble does absolutely NOTHING to solve problems. Kudos to the guy brave enough to hand over the mic, kudos to the guy who took the mic and delivered a very good message.
I could say more but I'll stop there for now.
I can’t take this post seriously when there is nothing you all will ever say good about Obama and your continued support for the deplorable behavior of trump tells me everything I need to know about those who voted for this turd. Total White backlash. Basket of deplorables. All of ya.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson.
Did you watch the video on the article in my post #1650138? This guy is half just like half the board. The video DC commented on showed some good people and some racists at a Trump rally, at least they heard the BLM group out.
j/c - Another perceived "triumph" for the white nationalists at the hands of Trump. Whatever "you" think of what Trump says and whether he is racist etc .... the one thing that is undeniable is that he enables them and THEY think he supports them.... go figure.
Man arrested after woman hit with brick in string of hate crime attacks in Manhattan
By Eyewitness News Saturday, August 24, 2019 9:30AM
NEW YORK (WABC) -- Police said a man was arrested in connection with a string of hate crime attacks in New York City, one in which a woman was hit in the head with a brick.
Police said 33-year-old Todd Lyons, of Manhattan, was arrested Friday and charged with hate crime assault and assault.
All four attacks happened on the streets of Manhattan, three in a three-hour span on the same day. In at least one attack, the man allegedly made anti-white statements.
Police believe the man has attacked at least four people since August 9. The first reported victim was a 56-year-old man who was pushed from behind while walking along Fifth Avenue near 14th Street. The victim fell, and the attacker fled.
Five days later, a 64-year-old woman walking on Greenwich Avenue near 8th Avenue when she was struck in her neck and shoulder with a wooden stick.
About an hour later in front of 2 Wooster Street, police say a 20-year-old woman was walking when the suspect threw a brick and struck her in the back of the head before fleeing.
Roughly 90 minutes later, in front of 181 8th Avenue, a 58-year-old man was walking at the location when the suspect struck him in the face and made anti-white statements.
In all the incidents, there was no previous exchange or interaction between the victim and the suspect.
I’m glad they found the dude. My worry was it was gonna be impossible to find him in a place like hat.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
INTERVIEW: THE ONLY PERSON WHO ATTENDED STEVE KING’S FORUM
It was early Saturday morning, and Jessica Birch didn’t feel like getting out of bed. Hungover and tired, the 21-year-old University of Northern Iowa student could easily have turned off her alarm.
But the night before, she saw a Facebook event for Congressman Steve King’s town hall forum in Grundy County come across her feed, and she felt a civic duty to attend. So, Birch forced herself out of bed and headed 17 miles down the road to the Grundy Center Community Center.
She arrived to peculiar scene: out of the over 12,000 people that live in Grundy County, Birch was the only one to show up to King’s forum.
“It was just odd, because I don’t know what the record was for the world’s smallest town hall is, but one person I think has to be it,” Birch told Starting Line in an interview this morning.
A photo of the near-empty room by a Reuters photographer quickly went viral Saturday afternoon, showing only two people in a room of mostly-empty chairs. However, as Birch explained, the other woman on the left in the photo was an intern for King. Birch, who lives in Dike, Iowa, was the only constituent of King’s not required to attend to show up.
“I was the only person who was not paid to be there,” she said.
When Birch arrived to the parking lot, it was just a few police cars there for security.
“I looked at them, they looked at me,” she said of the four to six police officers who were there as she walked in.
King’s staff opened the door for her as she arrived, and she wrote her name — the only one — on the sign-in sheet. A few staff and one photographer were the only other people on hand.
Birch had planned on just sitting in the back of the room. When King entered, he walked back to her to greet her, then she moved herself up to a closer row as he approached the podium.
“It was very awkward, it was a very weird thing,” Birch explained. “Part of me wanted to leave, but it would be rude to leave, and the Midwestern part of me couldn’t do that. I feel bad for him a bit. But then part of me was really, really angry because other Democrats didn’t show up. I kind of let stuff he said slide, on stuff like abortion and health care, because I don’t want to get in an argument with him. I already know you’re wrong. Let’s talk about things I actually care about.”
King began his one-person forum with a joking reference to Rick Santorum, reminiscing on how Santorum thanked a woman who was once his only attendee at a caucus event.
“I reflect on that when I walked in the room here and saw the attendance today,” King said.
The congressman started with one of his usual updates on trade policies, then asked Birch if she had any questions.
A public administration major who’s working at Cedar Fall’s Section 8 department, Birch’s biggest interests lie with affordable housing issues, so she asked him about housing costs.
King responded by going into an in-depth discussion about Americans in the workforce and his views on people who receive various welfare benefits.
“Our welfare system that we have is a disincentive for them to go to work,” King said. “Employers will come to me about Section 8 housing, and they’ll say we need to do something different, because we have people who live in Section 8 housing and they come to work, once they get a job, they’ll only work three or four days a week, because if they make too much money, they won’t qualify for Section 8 housing.”
King went on to talk about his efforts to reduce various social welfare programs, as well as examples he had of people abusing disabilities benefits and a number of other topics.
“My question really wasn’t about Section 8 people,” Birch politely responded. “The people I’ve dealt with, they’re hardworking.”
“Housing has been an important issue, and it’s just one of those things that’s just never talked about, like ever,” she later told Starting Line. “We talk about health care, we talk about immigration.”
King continued a casual, conversational discussion with Birch, asking her what other topics she cared about and seeking her opinion on a few things.
“The whole hour for me was just a blur of what I was saying. I was hungover, I didn’t have any coffee, I was just there,” Birch said. “If I could go back, I would have been more ready to ask questions.”
They did get into an interesting exchange on reparations for black Americans, something King made clear he wasn’t in favor of.
King, who at one point had a Confederate Flag on his desk, spoke about his family members who were abolitionists and who fought in the Civil War on the Northern side. But he also argued that America should be congratulated for ending the practice of slavery.
“It’s kind of hard to hear the arguments for reparations these days and think about it in terms of some people gained a foundation of wealth prior to 1865 because they used slave labor,” King said. “At the same time, 600,000, maybe 750,000 Americans died putting an end to it. What’s the price for that? There’s no reparations for lost lives, but there is for lost wages? I think it’s a hard argument for them to make, and it’s much better for us to be grateful for both sides.”
He then spoke favorably about the Civil Rights era and the black Americans who led social change in that.
In telling her friends last night about her experience with King, others suggested Birch should have yelled at him.
“It’s so easy to say that, being the only person in the room is different,” Birch noted.
Once the hour-long forum was finished, King’s staff encouraged her to get a photo with the congressman.
“I politely declined, mostly because I plan to run for office and I don’t need a picture of Steve King and I shaking hands in the future,” she said.
On her way out the door, she jokingly apologized to the officers for having to get up early to provide security for someone as rowdy as herself.
“I don’t know if they found it funny; I did,” Birch said.
While she sent out a tweet during the event, Birch didn’t get much response and headed back home for the day.
“I ate breakfast pizza and then I went back to bed,” Birch explained. “I woke up at 4:00 and I pulled up my phone, and I have a dozen notifications.”
The photo of King’s Grundy Center town hall had been bouncing around Twitter for hours. Even Senator Amy Klobuchar had commented on it. While Birch herself wasn’t named anywhere, she said it was odd to see the back of her head and another photo of her face being shared by so many people.
“It was interesting, I don’t think I’ll ever have another experience like that again in my life,” she said.
Plenty more had made jokes about King, though some at Iowans’ expense, which Birch became annoyed with.
“I’m frustrated with people commenting on how all Iowans are racist, dismissing District 4 Iowans because Steve King gets elected,” she said. “I showed up as a 21-year-old person, actually following through. It’s easy to talk stuff online, but showing up is different. I felt like it was an obligation to.”
Birch noted that she’s become more politically engaged in recent years, working at the Black Hawk County elections office during the last election and volunteering for congressional and presidential campaigns. She met J.D. Scholten, King’s Democratic opponent, at an event last year, and is excited to see how he does this time.
No matter what happens with King’s reelection hopes, however, Birch would prefer people who comment online about Iowans keep in mind that there are people here fighting back.
“As a young Democrat who’s trying her best, please don’t dismiss us all,” Birch said. “Some of us care. Some of us show up.”
there was a Klan rally in Hillsborough NC the other day, which is not far from Durham/Chapel Hill area.. I saw it on the news when I was in Florida, then the locals started posting about it on social media.. I honestly expected it to be something fairly significant... then I saw some pictures and it looks to be 12-15 dumbarses, some in hoods, standing on the street waving flags...
Hey, can anybody explain what “Christian race” she is referring to? For the life of me, I just can’t seem to figure it out....
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
there was a Klan rally in Hillsborough NC the other day, which is not far from Durham/Chapel Hill area.. I saw it on the news when I was in Florida, then the locals started posting about it on social media.. I honestly expected it to be something fairly significant. then I saw some pictures and it looks to be 12-15 dumbarses, some in hoods, standing on the street waving flags...
So a few klansmen out in the streets, some in hoods...a known domestic terrorist group who have done unspeakable damage to thousands of lives in the USA....isn’t fairly significant to you. Got it. Pretty much sums up why we are where we are right now.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson.