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Gotta think this is for the returner job. He's serviceable as a backup WR, but that's about it. I like the signing. Don't really have anything to lose from it.

Agreed. I highly doubt he even makes the team, but why not give him a shot. He'd certainly be a fan favorite if he makes it.

I also remember seeing that Miller was a good blocking WR ... so maybe a hybrid type RB/TE/WR ... it might be more of an indictment on our RB and TE depth than anything

With WRs Hyman, Calloway, and Montgomery all injured...I think that's why Braxton is here...I hope he makes the most out of his opportunity.

Spot WR/TE work, emergency #3 QB on gameday? Saves us from keeping 3 QBs.

I always liked that approach. Just go with two guys at QB, and have a third that can run a couple basic packages-- somebody who could take over up a touchdown in the third quarter and you can still look to be in good shape for the game, if it ever came to that. Maybe even work in some zone-read type stuff like the Saints have done with Taysom Hill.

All that said, I don't think Braxton makes the roster in the first place and any emergency QB value he might have isn't worth it if he can't contribute elsewhere.

If this theory holds that could say more about Hilliard. Sheehy could also be on his way out. To be honest, I don't think Sheehy will make the final cuts.

Can he kick?

Sheehy has no chance IMO .. he’s not a viable WR backup and we’ve probably evaluated him to be equal to other candidates at PR/KR

My thought as well. Kind of like we did with Cribbs. Have a package of 25 plays to run with him at QB. Something different for a D to adjust to if Bake and whoever get dinged.

Come to think of it, I might keep him over whoever is going to be the last receiver to make the team because he can be your insurance on gameday at the QB position. When you find yourself up to your neck in alligators in the 3rd quarter, you have to have some sort of emergency plan you have at least practiced a few times.

A plan isn't running up and down the sideline asking players if they played QB in high school.

I'm still holding out hope for Hilliard. Rough 1st game, injured in the 2nd, don't know his status now. Hope to see what he's got left in the last two.

I think this will end up as a very short term experiment.

I like this guy! But wont see the field

Loved watching him as a Buckeye. Remember the spin move vs Va Tech? Its around the 1:48 mark on the highlight video below.

One of the most dynamic college players I've ever seen. Unbelievable speed, quickness, elusiveness. As a WR he gets out of breaks as well as anyone, and everyone knows what he can do in open space. Three years and two teams, in the NFL, has produced next to nothing. If we can solve this mystery, I could see a hybrid role.

With Hilliard being (so far) a bit of a disappointment, no clear-cut return man, and the bottom of the WR roster not really cemented, Miller could fill several roles over the next two weeks... And honestly, probably a better use of a roster spot (if he passes the eye test), going forward, than Sheely. I could see him being a place holder for Callaway, while he's gone, as long as he picks things up quickly. As a practice QB, he could also get the defense ready for Mariota in week one, and as others have said, be an emergency QB.

Enough short term work to bring him in and long-term upside to roll the dice... without really rolling any dice. His biggest upside lies in the hands of Baker though. Seeing a dynamic player catching balls from a QB that can be on-time, on-target, wow, that could be the real litmus test for what Miller can expect in an NFL career going forward.

Yeah up to this point Sheehy has made one play the whole preseason (that return for a TD) and seems to be overhyped due to his story...but we shall see what he does going forward.

To be fair, he wasn't even given a chance last game.

has anyone noticed if he has been slacking off at practice or anything after the return for TD? Not inquinating he is, I don't know. I just don't get why he wouldn't garner a few more looks the next game after that.

Sheehy to PS. I think we need somebody to game with and finish out camp. Not sure he isn't here after cuts.

This is the first thing I thought about when I saw his name.

That was his first game at WR. Pretty ridiculous debut...

I wonder what Braxton's issues as a WR are? Is it route running? Getting off the LOS? Hands? Anyone know for sure?

He may make it but....
Would fill a lot of backup slots.
Returns, B/U QB, WR and HB... he was a serious college talent....

He's an average-at-best NFL talent, though.
His versatility is his value.

Churning the bottom of the roster.
Not likely to make the 53.

He was top 3 in the three-cone drill, 20-yard shuttle and 60-yard shuttle at the 2016 NFL Scouting Combine. His Combine 40 was a disappointment at 4.50, but he followed that up by running 4.33 and 4.36 at his Pro Day. That sounds a lot better than "average at best" or "bottom of the roster" to me, especially when you look at his game film.


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You're talking about a guy in shorts. That has little to do with playing the game in the NFL.

Not really, I was talking about his athleticism when coupled with his demonstrated ability on the field in college. Braxton's biggest problem is that he never played WR until he was in his last year at OSU. But his situation and skillset are not really all that different from Terrelle Pryor's, and TP showed out pretty well when he was here.

A lot of guys demonstrated a lot of skills on the field in college, and that doesn't mean jack in the pro's. As browns fans, we should no better than anyone about this with our draft picks over the years.

We seem to like reclamation projects who were high draft picks

Last year it was Greg Robinson and Perriman. Maybe this year it will be Miller. Who knows? I'm fine with looking for gold in the scrap heap.

Sorry, but you don't have to be Gil Brandt to see that Miller has a rare combination of size, speed, open field ability, and athleticism. I'm not suggesting he should get that many reps at WR, but he could certainly be our 6th WR after Beckham, Landry, Higgins, Strong, and Willies, while filling a needed role at KR and PR. He could also allow you to roster only two QBs (Mayfield and Gilbert) by being your in-game emergency QB while keeping Blough on the practice squad. He could also fill a role in wildcat situations and gadget plays. Like Purp said, his versatility is his best asset - but its by no means his only asset.

I have to disagree Sheehy has a chance IF he is healthy.

GM,

A bit of inside info there? Or just opinion. No worries if circumstances keep you from elaborating.

Inside.... The front office really likes the kid,, BUT the old days are gone. If they feel somebody else will help us win then he is gone in a heart beat.

Teams don't signt a guy with name recognition, two weeks before the 53 spot roster cutdown;

without some thought in somebody's mind that he's going to make one of those spots opening day.

It could be injuries, it could be talent, it could be they see something he can do.

I think it's actually a good signing,

Like any move, I'll ask, Does this help them beat Pittsburgh?

Love Miller and had high hopes for him in Houston...

Sadly he just never really shined.. he had flashes but couldn't get on the field much... don't expect much of him

If Sheehy can hold on to the ball I'd keep him as a pure returner...roster spot be damned.

Just looking.. he won't last long. WR room too deep.

I think Braxton's issue has been his shoulder. I look forward to seeing if he's finally fully healthy again.

Montgomery is on IR, Hyman and Callaway injured, Callaway suspension. All of a sudden it all makes sense.