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If your wife feels a need to dictate your career moves maybe you married the wrong woman.

You've had bad take after bad take in this thread, but this one takes the cake. Not only do you twist someone's opinion from considering external factors to someone dictating a decision w/out choice, but you make a reference to someone marrying the wrong person?

Shame on you.

I didn't know you were friends of theirs.

If you don't have Twitter or can't click on the actual Tweet, the text box at the bottom is TY Hilton's own words and it says:

Every time I think about it, Tears start to flow. No one understands you like I do. Our bond is one of a kind. I've decided to dedicate my season to my BEST FRIEND.
I Love You 12. #Luck2Hilton

Hilton should have just told him to "suck it up".

If you feel that your wife has 0 input in decisions that affect her, you, your family together, and your future health than I would assume you are currently single.

You are forgetting that she will be the one to have to wipe him clean when he cant function in the future from the beatings he has taken. Or be the one to tie his shoes when he doesn't have the mental capacity after hits to the head.

Memphis is 100% right, you have had bad take after bad take on this subject.

I dunno... maybe teammates can be closer to him than his wife... :-p

...but my wife doesn't.... and unlike you, I don't think Luck's wife does either.

jc

still not a believer in jacoby. im not sure what yall see in that dude other than he came from new england's system.

i still feel bad for the colts roster but man....Luck put his body through literal hell. and last season, i thought for sure like everyone else than Luck was back to his old form, and poised to absolutely massacre the competition this season. him getting booed like that is....smh.

fans out here out for the season if they stub their toe on the side of a table, yet got the nerve to be mad at a guy who put his body on the line to win despite having zero O line.

dont be mad at luck, be mad at the owner and the last GM who didnt do jack crap to protect their franchise QB.

That's you opinion. I'm very happily married. But leave it to you to take such an approach. My wife doesn't dictate my decisions and I don't dictate hers.

It seems some wish to place the decision on the shoulders of his spouse. I find that no less silly than my response to it.

I don't know if I would've been this harsh. Pit is usually pretty level-headed, not sure why he's picked up his pitchfork and torch for this thread. The comment about the wife's input is a good indicator this thread has begun to go off the rails, so I'll slip my opinion in there real quick.


My first reaction to the news was in line with the timing argument people put out before. I mean, it's not at the half during a game like that one DB last year (Buffalo DB that, IIRC, had just been released by the Colts... oddly enough), but this is really really poor timing. I mean, a decision like this doesn't just happen....
But once you start digging into the details, the why's start to become much clearer and more understandable. Dude took a beating behind terrible Olines, and would smile and joke with his tackler. Doesn't get much tougher than that. But that was coming back to bite him in the butt lately. Dude was trying, but just couldn't get healthy... one thing after another. Part of the decision was his frustration with the recurring setbacks regarding his injuries. So the setbacks during training camp were probably the straw that broke the camel's back. The stories that the FO told him to hold off on the decision also make sense and would explain the timing aspect some more.

This sucks for everyone, but it is understandable.

J/c

I’ve seen a mixed bag on Brissett .. some think he’ll do well, some think the opposite ... I’m going with my gut in saying he’ll do an admirable job. I think he has the ability to make them a playoff type team still. He’s not close to one of the worst starting QBs IMO

It's comical how:



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What a joke.

I'm rooting for the guy and think he can be an asset for the team. From the little I've seen, he can tend to hold the ball a bit longer than desired but has decent accuracy and arm strength. He can also makes some plays with his legs, which, as he is getting more comfortable with the playbook and chemistry with receivers, he might be able to use those legs to his advantage.

We'll see.

If you wish to see some jokes, go back and read your own posts.

He left his team in a terrible position two weeks before the season. That's not how a professional handles things. That's not how you treat your teammates.

Retiring isn't the issue. Him being a stand up guy isn't the issue. Leaving your team in the lurch two weeks before opening day is the issue. And that's a crappy thing to do.

I believe that Brissett is an 8-8 QB, at the best, and that is considering his current team. We'll see though.

This couldn't a better situation for Jacoby Brissett. The Colts offense (especially the offensive line) is stacked. He is the unquestioned starter on a team that went to the playoffs last year. And this is the last year of his rookie deal. If he's an average level QB he's at least getting franchised.

Brissett is Not Luck and we will see that this season ... JMHO

How do you know he's not Luck? They look pretty similar.

He also had very little experience (and time) running with the playbook in 2017 when he last played a significant amount of snaps. He has had the entire preseason with the 1's as well. Being 26 years old, I agree, I think this has ended up being a pretty good situation for him. I hope he succeeds.

If he can stay healthy, Marlon Mack is a really good back. Add in Jordon and Hines, Brissett can lean on the run if even half as proficient in the passing game.

I don't think he's the answer either.. I'm sure the Colts are hoping another option falls into their lap..

Right now, if I'm the Colts.. I'm hoping like heck that the Steelers keep Dobbs and cut Mason Rudolph... Rudolph has looked good. Then again, if it goes the other way, especially considering the OL and how Dobbs can run the ball, I might take him too..

My guess is that the Colts bring Curtis Painter out of retirement for the 2020 season if Brissett isn't any good.

This is exactly what I was thinking. Watch them give it the old college try this year, see it fail, and then the blow it up and crater next year and have Lawrence fall in their laps in 2021.

J/C

There aren’t many situations that would be better for a guy to be placed into as the new QB of the team IMO. I mean, maybe the Rams or Saints or Eagles ... but not many more

j/c:

Let's just hope if he does come out of retirement in a few years time that he doesn't end up playing for the Steelers or Patriots, whenever their QB's decide they have had enough. You know?

Let's just hope, for his sake, he doesn't join his dad in the XFL next year lol. He'd never be able to set foot in Indy again.

The Colts still own his rights for however many years were left on his current contract. Those years will not tick off while retired. So, if he comes back, he will still owe them that many seasons.

That's good to hear.

So they're going to have Trevor Lawrence and the ten first round picks they are getting for trading Andrew Luck?!?!?

Isn't an XFL contract worth about $80K? That would put an end to all of the "he's so smart" discussions.

Not only that but he is under contract with the Indianapolis Colts.

I got that part.. I thought this hypothetical conversation left reality a while ago.

I think the Brown's situation would be the best. They have more offensive talent than any other team.

I would like to get serious for a moment. We all saw Luck's hastily called press conference. Not sure how many saw Gronk start crying while trying to promote CBD products. He talked about the pain and the emotional/mental toil of dealing w/it. Le'Ron McClain, a former NFL FB, came out the other day and was pleading for help because of the dark place he is in. Many of us have seen guys like Jim Otto, who had to be helped out of bed and how many former NFL players have a poor quality of life due to playing football.

All of this strikes home for me. And if you don't want to read about a personal account, you can click out of this post now, but I am going to share a few things.

I only played high school and college football. Hell, I didn't even finish my collegiate career. They made me quit after my junior year. Additionally, I played in the 1970s, dawgs. The size and speed of dudes back then were not even close to what today's players possess.

But, just so you know.......

I had 7 or 8 concussions. I am not really sure because I hid a three possible ones from our staff. I knew they were going to make me sit and I did not want to sit. The last one was heavy duty and they forced me to quit the team. I started a thread awhile ago about how I suffer from depression and dawgs, I think those concussions are a big part of that.

My freaking knees are shot. I mean shot. I work out every freaking day and part of my routine is to strengthen the areas that surround my knee, but I recently tore another MCL because the arthritis is so freaking bad. My docs say I should never run. Ever.

I have torn both rotator cuffs and have avoided surgery because all surgery does is alleviate the pain. It doesn't give you range of motion back.

My left hip collapses at times. The right one is ultra painful.

I returned a kick off return in high school for 76 yards where I was criss-crossing the field like Barry Freaking Sanders. I was dragged down along the sideline and as I was getting up, some jerk jumps knees-first [saw the tape the next day in film study] onto my freaking neck. My neck is a mess and my range of motion is not very good. Not sure if it is related, but I have had two other surgeries on my neck.

I could go on w/other injuries, but you should get the point by now.

Here is the killer, I remember each injury as if it was yesterday. Guess what my biggest fear always was? I was going to lose my job. I would have to prove myself all over again.

And y'all, rehab freaking sucks. The physical pain is one thing, but the emotional and mental drain of trying to get back to where you were so you can compete on the field for your job is so freaking taxing. It's beyond belief. Hell, there were countless nights I could not sleep because I would think about how coaches were praising some other RB and telling the team that the best ability is availability. You start hiding things because you want to play. People might think that is wrong, but when you are competitive, that is the way it is. You then put your body at further risk.

I want to remind you that I only played high school and D-2 football for 3 years.

So, before y'all go trashing Andrew Luck or Gronk, you might want to think again. Those dudes have endured a tremendous amount of physical, mental, and emotional pain and anguish to play a freaking game.

If they wanna walk away.............more power to them.

I actually think it took courage to walk away.

It would take more courage to walk away before the 12 million dollar bonus payday.

Seriously?

Yes. Seriously. I feel some of you are gullible. The NFL is about money.

That goes for the players, the owners, and the league!
Its a business.

SHOW ME THE MONEY!!

If Andrew Luck had any actual morals he would not have strung his team out to dry in favor of a payday.