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Agreed jfanent.

Punch, a movie studio, a restaurant chain, a law firm or a web app have competition. The NFL is a monopoly
And I don't go to restaurants that overcharge for the food/experience they provide. I don't use apps that charge me to download them. And I have stopped going to games.

And I don't mean that the government should put a cap on profits. And the "cap" wouldn't be a true cap. It would be that they took care of their fans by keeping things reasonably priced instead of gouging them. A self imposed do what's right rather than rip every penny out of the pockets of the people who love their teams.

Not everybody can afford to do all of the fun things. Using government to restrict businesses so everyone can participate isn't fair to the business or to the people that do have the disposable incomes.

Should it be fair for everyone to afford a sports car, fly first class, have a big house, go on great vacations and attend all the sporting events you'd like to see?

Plus, my parents were "working class" and we got to Cavs, Indians and Browns games. They had to adjust their budget to do those things. Maybe that meant giving something else up. We went to game, but not all the time. You say the working class should be able to do that regularly. Why? Is it a right to be able to go see professional sports, movies and go on vacations often?

Look, I'm not bashing you about this, but sounds like you're part of the entitled millennial thinking. The "I shouldn't have to work hard to do all the great things in life, it should be given/shared to me by those that have too much" thought process.

I agree mostly.

Do all those other places use taxpayer money to build their venues?

Some stadiums are built without taxpayer funds. And some movies, most recently Marvel, get huge taxpayer breaks to film in Ohio. That's not a reason why Ohio resident should only pay $3 to see Marvel movies.

I'm talking specifically about the perceived right that everyone should be able to attend a professional sports game regularly. Why?

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I don't care about Zekes contract, guess it just means he'll be a cowboy for 3 years and that's it.

moving on. Seasons about to start.

No, it's not. There are other football options available. College, high school and the XFL in February. Heck, maybe even the Arena league is still in existence.

Plus, even if they owned all access to football in the country, I don't think we need to worry about a monopoly of a non-essential entertainment commodity.

Sorry, I just don't see why the NFL can't fill the demand with the supply they choose. It's their business and they seem to be doing well. And also, I apologize, when people talk about restricting a free market economy it tends to trigger me. Back to the thread.

A baseball game is still affordable for most people to go several times a year. If you are lucky to live in a minor league town, it is very affordable. I live in a AA town. I can get a GA ticket for $8. Beers run maybe $5. Dogs $2. Popcorn a buck. Go on hotdog night which they have 5-6 times a year, they cost 2 for $1.

In Cleveland, I would go to a bunch of lake Erie Monster games if I lived there, and they aren't all that expensive.

I'll bet going to a John Carrol game or CSU game isn't expensive....BW has a nice football field to watch a game.

I have UTC basketball season tickets. They are $225 a season, lower level about 9 rows off the court behind the home bench.

People don't have to always think pro sports to see good games.

That's why I prefer the Mudhens.




Closer to home,cheaper, and just as good. Nope, I don't see the 'stars', but I see baseball.

Some of us have to watch our expenditures. I know a lot on here don't seem to need to. I/we, do.

Pro sports are pricing themselves out of my reach. And that's fine. I'd rather save the money for the most part. Wife and I have other things to do with our meager expendable income. And you know what? We're doing fine. But I'm not tossing out - now - some $700 to attend a game for the Browns. I don't make the kind of money the players make.

I need to watch my expenditures. I splurge went I want or can, but I stay in Red Roof Inns a lot, especially when alone. I don't need a fancier room when I come up alone. As long as they are clean which I have always found them to be, I am good. I like getting a decent room for $58 plus tax.

When my wife comes up, she doesn't need it, but I want her to have it, so we stay at a Marriott Courtyard or better.

I have been to a few Mudhens games....be it many years ago....like 50 years.. I was born in Toledo and my Dads parents lived there. I would like to see the new park...I have heard it is very nice.

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It's business. Supply and demand. Don't like it..........then, don't watch. If enough people do that, the price will go down.

On another note, I think the players deserve a bigger piece of the owner's pie. The upcoming collective bargaining process should be very interesting.

I am betting that this particular contract is about an inch thick. The Cowboys need some protection if Zeke gets into trouble again. I don't think Zeke is a bad guy, but he is a party animal that apparently doesn't think too much about his career when partying.

Even just the guaranteed part of this contract is a lot for a RB, so when it comes time for Dak's contract it might wind up being Dak and Zeke and nobody else.

that's the cost of an MLB game during the week

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people saying the owners are pricing people out. I think the facts speak for themselves. And the facts are, people are paying double and triple face value for browns tickets right now, with a wait list for season tickets a mile long.

I would say the pricing is competitive. They easily could charge more, and get it.

Not everybody can afford everything. And that's ok. The excuse "working class people should be able to afford to go to a game" is nonsense. 1. Working class people afford to go to games every week. Not everyone in the stadium is a Kardashian, you just have to prioritize other things and save a little longer, that's all. I bet those working class people that cant afford the game, all have 1000 cell phones in their house, and multiples of them.

I want to have a mansion with a 8 car garage and a swimming pool full of chocolate pudding. Its a shame that a working class guy like me cant have that. The government and the NFL need to make it so.....

The value of something is always precisely whatever people will pay for it.

I think they do too, but it's hard to get the money spread out to everyone on the roster. If the NFL were to raise the cap by 10%, that money will just end up going to the QB's.

We need a structure by position. A QB can get 5-25% of the cap, a RB can get 3-10% of the cap and so on. And it should all be guaranteed, just shorter contract lengths. Contract lengths beyond 2-3 years are worthless anyway. The teams can cut you after the first year and often make you restructure. There almost no point to negotiate a 4th year of an NFL contract (under the current system).

I'd imagine the league would still want to keep the franchise tag, but it needs to be modified a bit. As in, it's even more money. It's not "fair" to be forced into a 1-year contract when you're in your prime, ready to cash in and you are locked up for one price. I think a franchise tag should immediately make you the highest paid at your position plus 10%. Like, make it so much money, that the players might actually want to sign it and the teams would rather sign them longterm.

I look at fans trying to base the blame on player salaries this way.

There are two dozen cookies. The owners have 20 of those cookies and the players only have 4 of the cookies. Rather than try and realize that the people who have 20 of the cookies are the bulk of the problem, the blame gets placed on the people who only have 4 of them.

I can't find anyone that blamed the players...