|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 11,367
Legend
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 11,367 |
Haha well thank you, Jules (I think  ) I still like you. 
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 17,024
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 17,024 |
I think our lack of improvement on the OL reared its ugly head today ... we need to take a look at how Tennessee protected their OTs They ran away from them some cutting the field in half. They used play action perfectly and repeatedly beat us with the same play. They also just played us straight up. If Garrett doesn't get a good jump on the snap, he's ineffective a large percentage of the time. Our D, like the rest of the team, just didn't appear to play with any real game plan or strategy. They didn't appear to adjust much.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 19,058
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 19,058 |
Seibert biffing his first PAT was apropos. Zane Gonzo is 2/2 this afternoon.  Make that 3/3.
At DT, context and meaning are a scarecrow kicking at moving goalposts.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 17,024
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 17,024 |
I understand the pessimistic like Dawgs4Life. I think you have him confused with another poster, maybe leadtheway who is the ultimate negative poster. Dawgs may be annoying with his number of posts and the fact that he rarely clicks on the poster he is talking to, and responds to quotes above the actual quote, but he isn't negative. Hahaha. Great post! Lead is in a class all by himself. I'm not sure what to even label that. Dawgs likes to be negative just in case it doesn't work out the way he wants. But then when it doesn't work out the way he wants it doesn't seem to have helped that he expected a bad result in the first place. Ha.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 23,847
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 23,847 |
I understand the pessimistic like Dawgs4Life. I think you have him confused with another poster, maybe leadtheway who is the ultimate negative poster. Dawgs may be annoying with his number of posts and the fact that he rarely clicks on the poster he is talking to, and responds to quotes above the actual quote, but he isn't negative. Hahaha. Yeah, negative that’s me.. truth hurts.
Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday. -John Wayne
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 23,847
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 23,847 |
I understand the pessimistic like Dawgs4Life. I think you have him confused with another poster, maybe leadtheway who is the ultimate negative poster. Dawgs may be annoying with his number of posts and the fact that he rarely clicks on the poster he is talking to, and responds to quotes above the actual quote, but he isn't negative. Hahaha. Great post! Lead is in a class all by himself. I'm not sure what to even label that. Dawgs likes to be negative just in case it doesn't work out the way he wants. But then when it doesn't work out the way he wants it doesn't seem to have helped that he expected a bad result in the first place. Ha. Yes I am in a class by myself. I don’t see through browns colored glasses. When this team is good I say so, when they aren’t I say so. There wasn’t a single thing positive about today.
Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday. -John Wayne
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 11,367
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 11,367 |
Haha, I guess I haven't paid close enough attention to a lot of the posters right now. lead does stick out, without a question!
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 11,367
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 11,367 |
I understand the pessimistic like Dawgs4Life. I think you have him confused with another poster, maybe leadtheway who is the ultimate negative poster. Dawgs may be annoying with his number of posts and the fact that he rarely clicks on the poster he is talking to, and responds to quotes above the actual quote, but he isn't negative. Hahaha. Yeah, negative that’s me.. truth hurts. Dude, I skim right past your posts. I am in no way a sunshine at the ass poster, but I find most of your comments ridiculous, especially during a game. It has nothing to do with truth.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,229
Dawg Talker
|
|
Dawg Talker
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,229 |
The Browns are a good team that had a horrible game today. I'm not ready to give up on the season because of one bad game. I'm really concerned about Kitchens but the Browns should still make the playoffs.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 13,205
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 13,205 |
I've seen some awful openers; this may have been the worst. But I still think this is a good team. Not Super Bowl good, but maybe ... probably "playoff good". So what I'm going to do is stick this really bad horrible awful and ugly game in the rear view mirror and look forward to next week against the Jets. Fix the penalties, get the ball to Nick Chubb early and often, go into the no-huddle offense regularly, and keep the pocket moving to allow Mayfield throwing lanes. Teams don't go from 0-16 to SB contenders in 2 years, so get ready for a bumpy ride this year, folks. There's going to be some ups and there's going to be some downs.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 8,882
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 8,882 |
The Isle of Optimism looks like the Bahamas.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 15,188
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 15,188 |
The three things that really worry me after todays debacle ... - The penalties ... that was a total lack of discipline all over ... - Freddie did some really dumb stuff .... long list ... i don’t feel like typing it all out ... his last dumb move was having Chubb running the ball down by 30 on the last series ... that makes no sense ... - the OL lost what little depth it had today and we can’t live w/o G-Rob ... not that he’s any good but good lord what we have behind him now is not even NFL caliber ... I expect see vast improvement from Freddie on down in the next game .... we should be some orny dawgs after todays hot mess .... LETS GOOOOOOOOoooooooo 
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 5,362
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 5,362 |
Dawg, I respect your opinion, I hope your right, but I'll believe it when I see it. I have had too many disappointments with my Browns over the last 50+ years.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 73,448
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 73,448 |
Good point about the loss of GRob ... that legit killed us IMO. Just from a shifting/depth perspective
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 15,188
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 15,188 |
The Isle of Optimism looks like the Bahamas. Catch up ... it’s PARADISE ISLAND this year .... Fantasy Island is hoppin tonight .... *L* ...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,229
Dawg Talker
|
|
Dawg Talker
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,229 |
I've seen some awful openers; this may have been the worst. But I still think this is a good team. Not Super Bowl good, but maybe ... probably "playoff good". So what I'm going to do is stick this really bad horrible awful and ugly game in the rear view mirror and look forward to next week against the Jets. Fix the penalties, get the ball to Nick Chubb early and often, go into the no-huddle offense regularly, and keep the pocket moving to allow Mayfield throwing lanes. Teams don't go from 0-16 to SB contenders in 2 years, so get ready for a bumpy ride this year, folks. There's going to be some ups and there's going to be some downs. Great post. I think this game was a wake up call and they will beat the Jets.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 8,882
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 8,882 |
The Isle of Optimism looks like the Bahamas. Catch up ... it’s PARADISE ISLAND this year .... Fantasy Island is hoppin tonight .... *L* ... Paradise Island is looking like Fyre Festivsl 2.0.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 470
1st String
|
|
1st String
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 470 |
The old saying rings so true after the game...you win or lose in the trenches.we lost that battle on both sides of the ball both physically and mentally today.its really concerning on the d side because that was supposed to be the strength of our team
Last edited by BustkeviousMingo; 09/08/19 07:43 PM. Reason: Spelling
"Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." - Winston Churchill
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 73,448
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 73,448 |
Good point .. both lines didn’t perform and it’s a big reason we lost
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 19,058
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 19,058 |
Seibert biffing his first PAT was apropos. Zane Gonzo is 2/2 this afternoon. Make that 3/3. Make that 4/4 with 2 PATs.
At DT, context and meaning are a scarecrow kicking at moving goalposts.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 13,205
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 13,205 |
Seibert biffing his first PAT was apropos. Zane Gonzo is 2/2 this afternoon. Make that 3/3. Make that 4/4 with 2 PATs. You're digging this a little too much.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 15,095
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 15,095 |
The Isle of Optimism looks like the Bahamas. Catch up ... it’s PARADISE ISLAND this year .... Fantasy Island is hoppin tonight .... *L* ... It's nice to see that you're taking it with a sense of (Browns) humor. And I really mean that sincerely. Me too. Experience? Force of habit?  
"too many notes, not enough music-"
#GMStong
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 15,188
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 15,188 |
What else am i gonna do .... i love the browns but I ain’t gonna let it ruin my day .... i don’t get to live it again and I’ll be dammed if I’m gonna let this ruin mine ... they can’t have my attitude ... thats all on me .... 15 left dawg ... i’m gonna go out on a limb and say better days are ahead ...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 13,340
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 13,340 |
I find the finger-pointing at Freddie disconcerting, as if he deserves the bulk of the blame for this loss. The knee-jerk reactions have started already.
18 penalties. Can't win that way. You get behind the sticks, or give the other team easy first downs.
Shifting o-linemen when a dumbass gets ejected and another gets hurt.
Can't win that way.
Three picks in the fourth quarter. Can't win that way.
We know we're better than this. We'll beat the Jets by 10 or more.
![[Linked Image from i28.photobucket.com]](http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c201/shadedog/mcenroe2.jpg) gmstrong -----------------
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 5,915
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 5,915 |
At least all the bull about the playoffs and Superbowl can die off. All I want is a team that plays good football and the rest will take care of itself. We are a long way from that. The team showed awfully poor coaching today. That needs to change.
WAY too early to jump ship or make any conclusions except that things need to change. Let's all hope they do. Quickly. Go Browns.
#BlackLivesMatter #StopAsianHate
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,693
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,693 |
They out-physicaled us, and out-executed us. they came into our house and kicked our asses by being prepared, disciplined, physical, and they executed. We, on the other hand, fell apart, shot ourselves in the foot time and again, and didn't execute. We got our asses handed to us, but I certainly don't believe every game will go this way. On to week 2.
![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/hfMNC7T.jpg) "I am undeterred and I am undaunted." --Kevin Stefanski "Big hairy American winning machines." --Baker Mayfield #gmstrong
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 13,882
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 13,882 |
When it was 15-13, I thought we had it. That 75-yarder killed. And then the wheels fell off.
It felt like the refs were trying to knock us down a peg after all that media coverage. We did it mostly ourselves, but it felt like an attack.
Will Robinson be suspended?
![[Linked Image]](http://www.dawgtalkers.net/uploads/Punchsmack/punch.gif) “...Iguodala to Curry, back to Iguodala, up for the layup! Oh! Blocked by James! LeBron James with the rejection!”
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 17,024
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 17,024 |
Every time there's a loss there will be blame for the loss. That's natural. People are identifying the reasons why.
No one is saying he should be fired other than lead.
But if you are talking that there should be no blame in a loss, that's dumb.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 73,448
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 73,448 |
I agree ... I thought we would win if we got a stop after the long TD drive ... then the back breaker by Henry
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 5,915
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 5,915 |
I find the finger-pointing at Freddie disconcerting, as if he deserves the bulk of the blame for this loss. The knee-jerk reactions have started already.
18 penalties. Can't win that way. You get behind the sticks, or give the other team easy first downs.
Shifting o-linemen when a dumbass gets ejected and another gets hurt.
Can't win that way.
Three picks in the fourth quarter. Can't win that way.
We know we're better than this. We'll beat the Jets by 10 or more.
I'm not piling on Freddie but penalties and a lack of discipline are a result of coaching or a lack thereof. You can't blame a coach for a dropped ball or an interception etc. But how disciplined a team plays is a direct reflection of coaching. So Freddie needs to get that crap straightened out QUICKLY. He's a rookie so he gets a pass for a game or two but this team won't win 5 games if we keep getting penalties at this rate.
#BlackLivesMatter #StopAsianHate
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,693
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,693 |
It's easy to lay blame, harder to give credit. The Titans won the game. That's where the credit should go. Looking for a place to lay blame is an exercise in futility. Yes, we could have played better, yes it's possible we could've been better coached in this loss, yes our Browns should have been more disciplined, but it was a loss because they flat out beat us. It's hard to admit because everyone wants a reason why we lost. Well, there it is.
"I am undeterred and I am undaunted." --Kevin Stefanski "Big hairy American winning machines." --Baker Mayfield #gmstrong
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 13,340
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 13,340 |
Every time there's a loss there will be blame for the loss. That's natural. People are identifying the reasons why.
No one is saying he should be fired other than lead.
But if you are talking that there should be no blame in a loss, that's dumb. I didn't say there was nobody to blame.
gmstrong -----------------
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 15,570
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 15,570 |
The Isle of Optimism looks like the Bahamas. Catch up ... it’s PARADISE ISLAND this year .... Fantasy Island is hoppin tonight .... *L* ... Paradise Island is looking like Fyre Festivsl 2.0. I chuckled.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 5,620
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 5,620 |
j/c
Here's a thought, might be nothing at all.
After the safety, it seemed Baker was in some pain. Looked like his arm.
He stayed in the game, but his throws did not seem the same after that. Not as crisp. Had some wobble, missed some by a good amount. Not making excuses, but wondering if his arm was bothering him after that safety.
And why bring him back on the field for the last series if all we were going to do is hand off?
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 17,438
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 17,438 |
The Isle of Optimism looks like the Bahamas. Catch up ... it’s PARADISE ISLAND this year .... Fantasy Island is hoppin tonight .... *L* ... Paradise Island is looking like Fyre Festivsl 2.0. I chuckled. Historically our QBs could have been a Burning Man.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 470
1st String
|
|
1st String
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 470 |
It's easy to lay blame, harder to give credit. The Titans won the game. That's where the credit should go. Looking for a place to lay blame is an exercise in futility. Yes, we could have played better, yes it's possible we could've been better coached in this loss, yes our Browns should have been more disciplined, but it was a loss because they flat out beat us. It's hard to admit because everyone wants a reason why we lost. Well, there it is. Exactly we lost because we were out coached and out played on both sides of the ball
"Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." - Winston Churchill
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 13,340
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 13,340 |
I find the finger-pointing at Freddie disconcerting, as if he deserves the bulk of the blame for this loss. The knee-jerk reactions have started already.
18 penalties. Can't win that way. You get behind the sticks, or give the other team easy first downs.
Shifting o-linemen when a dumbass gets ejected and another gets hurt.
Can't win that way.
Three picks in the fourth quarter. Can't win that way.
We know we're better than this. We'll beat the Jets by 10 or more.
I'm not piling on Freddie but penalties and a lack of discipline are a result of coaching or a lack thereof. You can't blame a coach for a dropped ball or an interception etc. But how disciplined a team plays is a direct reflection of coaching. So Freddie needs to get that crap straightened out QUICKLY. He's a rookie so he gets a pass for a game or two but this team won't win 5 games if we keep getting penalties at this rate. Yeah that's somewhat on the coach, but not all of it. Can we really blame Freddie for all the brain-cramps that resulted in flags? Isn't it reasonable to expect that the starting LT will not get ejected? Or to expect we don't get flagged the most times we have been penalized in 68 years?
gmstrong -----------------
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 17,024
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 17,024 |
j/c
Here's a thought, might be nothing at all.
After the safety, it seemed Baker was in some pain. Looked like his arm.
He stayed in the game, but his throws did not seem the same after that. Not as crisp. Had some wobble, missed some by a good amount. Not making excuses, but wondering if his arm was bothering him after that safety.
And why bring him back on the field for the last series if all we were going to do is hand off? Honestly, the way he was holding his arm after the sack, I thought he was hurt and coming out of the game.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 13,340
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 13,340 |
Spirit: I think the team was 'too aroused' today. Too hyped up, and when things started to go bad we lost our cool and it got worse.
gmstrong -----------------
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 17,438
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 17,438 |
I thought they were undisciplined with no apparent gameplan.
I can understand 5 or 7 flags, but EIGHTEEN? Thats totally on the coach.
This team was unprepared.
|
|
|
DawgTalkers.net
Forums The Archives 2019 NFL Season Looking Back: Browns 13 Titans 43 Postgame Thoughts
|
|
![[Linked Image]](http://www.dawgtalkers.net/uploads/PortlandDawg/banner.jpg)
