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Cuz he's got a cool nickname, & kicks the hell out of a football.
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Love this dude, he has the energy are teaming is building around!
Can't wait for this weekend...tick tock
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but how in the hell does a punter warrant this many replies? I think the same way Dawson and Pontbriand did....
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Brown's fans hated Phil at first.
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Gillan's punts were, 50 to the 18 (OB), 54 to the 15 (FC) and 45 to the 18 (OB). Gillan will put some teams in bad field position that other punters can't, no matter how good they are at positional kicking, just because of his leg. ... and then imagine them having to face that front 7. After every punt. From anywhere on the field.
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Iif our DL stays healthy, we're going to be a nightmare up front, for opposing teams.
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Love this dude, he has the energy are teaming is building around!
Can't wait for this weekend...tick tock He's the most interesting punter we've ever had.
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Love this dude, he has the energy are teaming is building around!
Can't wait for this weekend...tick tock He's the most interesting punter we've ever had. I really wanted us to take Michael Dickson in the 2018 draft. He's the best punter I've ever seen in college and in his rookie season in the pros he was among the best in the league. Jamie Gillan is probably not as good as him but has a chance to be very good and I'm glad he's on our team.
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My reply is number 119 and that amazes me. I am not making any predictions, but how in the hell does a punter warrant this many replies? This is why... 
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My reply is number 119 and that amazes me. I am not making any predictions, but how in the hell does a punter warrant this many replies? Because we’re not arguing over who should start at QB.
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Our offense gets a lot of the media attention, but this group is probably our most important (besides Baker of course) Iif our DL stays healthy, we're going to be a nightmare up front, for opposing teams.
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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j/c... well I hope I can contribute to this thread besides complaining on how much replies are being committed... smh really?
1. Beating out a very good punter is a pretty big feet accomplished.
2. JG is just 22 years old and should be a staple here for at least 10 seasons. Its a big decision and good for this team.
3. I think we have built a great defense and if our offense is stifled we still can win games with great punting and field position.
4. JG is an excellent athlete, one of the best I've seen punting in the NFL. He can run, tackle and catch that snap and put it down correctly and he will get better at it over time.
5. Then we come to his punting. I saw him punt from our 15 and hang the ball high and directional to the left a bit where the returner had to go back and to the side making it hard to catch but 60 yards carry plus 10+ roll Putting the opponent inside their 20 changing the game and eventually a FG came out of it.
I saw rarely his punt being right down the middle and he can simply kick it high when needed for a punt inside the 20.
He had problems with the hold but with 8 weeks of practice got better like any good athlete.
The kid has Ray Guy possibilities and he is OURS!!!
Another piece of the puzzle not just fitting but being an IMPACT vs the rest of the NFL, thank you John Dorsey!
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He is a lightning rod drawing attention. For the first time in my fan's life following these Browns, I am excited to see us punt! SMH!
Our STs just got better, at least potentially.
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Cuz he's got a cool nickname, & kicks the hell out of a football. and tackles like a strong safety.
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Of course JG is 6'2" and solidly built, while Mel Gibson is 5'9.5" (and it's rumored the last 1.5" is with elevator shoes.)
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Another tidbit, in rugby, there is no blocking, so he is used to guys coming full speed at him from a lot of distances. Plus, he can kick a ball on the run accurately. I’ve seen some mind blowing kicks while watching and playing the sport.
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Question for the panel: Who would win a fight between The Scottish Hammer and Coach Ditka?
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Ditka....Thats like Andre the Giant and GM.... lol..just kidding GM...Love ya bro
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Question for the panel: Who would win a fight between The Scottish Hammer and Coach Ditka? Today? At their respective ages? Ditka.
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Ditka....Thats like Andre the Giant and GM.... lol..just kidding GM...Love ya bro
You never saw GM fight, I take it. GM .... don't ..... fight ....... fair.  
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Question for the panel: Who would win a fight between The Scottish Hammer and Coach Ditka? Ditka. Sixty two-tree.
And into the forest I go, to lose my mind and find my soul.
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Funny, it was the OTHER punter hitting 70-yarders today.
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... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
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well, our punter was punting like he was hammered. so it was close i guess
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well, our punter was punting like he was hammered. so it was close i guess
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Well, a quick perusal of the stats show 5 punts, 46.6 average, no returns and 3inside the 20, with a long of 52. So, not a bad day for him.
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Hammer did OK. Just rotten for about everybody else.
This was like the preseason game too many of us did not get to play. Very sad.
We did not even give out "Participation Trophies" to a bunch of us today. Dorsey needs to get us a playable tackle.
Enough of the sweetness and light crap. We weren't nasty bad ass enough. We should charity fine every penalty. Feed all the hungry in The Land.
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Yeah, good point. Too much flash, hype, fireworks, social media ... and NO substance. That’s the embarrassing part to me.
I don’t like that they sell us a “hard nosed, blue collar, etc” type football team when we were legit the exact opposite. We played finesse, soft, and mentally weak. Disappointing.
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He wasn't exactly terrible.
It was everyone else that looked like a spoiled Haggis...
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I thought he had a mixed day. He had one punt that was very poor, but ended up being decent (this probably saved his average) ... he had one that I felt was pretty good (maybe his second one?) .. and he had every other one that seemed meh
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I agree. Given thread title, what will the definition of "succeed in the NFL" mean as far as a metric for evaluation. I think he succeeded well for first NFL game given his background.
No fumble, no block, and no major problems. He survived. He did his job. An "average" NFL day for punters is a success in my book. Others wanting to detract may rate Hammer lower. I feel he has potential upside we have yet to develop.
Sidecar: With his rugby background, some sick little streak in me wants to see him fake a punt and run with it. It might be a secret weapon. And it brings up something just got my attention. Can he pass? Because if he can, we now have the Hammer, but passing to covert a first down, well, that would have to be a (wait for it!): a*Hammerthrow!*
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I agree. Given thread title, what will the definition of "succeed in the NFL" mean as far as a metric for evaluation. I think he succeeded well for first NFL game given his background.
No fumble, no block, and no major problems. He survived. He did his job. An "average" NFL day for punters is a success in my book. Others wanting to detract may rate Hammer lower. I feel he has potential upside we have yet to develop.
Sidecar: With his rugby background, some sick little streak in me wants to see him fake a punt and run with it. It might be a secret weapon. And it brings up something just got my attention. Can he pass? Because if he can, we now have the Hammer, but passing to covert a first down, well, that would have to be a (wait for it!): a*Hammerthrow!* I don't know if he can pass, but I bet he has a helluva lateral! Dude is pretty jacked for a punter too... I could see him throwing a pretty mean stiff arm on a fake.
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And it brings up something just got my attention. Can he pass? Because if he can, we now have the Hammer, but passing to covert a first down, well, that would have to be a (wait for it!): a*Hammerthrow!* If you watch his pre-pro videos, he does pass...rugby style, a 2-handed shovel pass that's pretty accurate. But is only good for about 10 yards and requires a clear path to the receiver because it never gets higher than about 6-7 feet off the ground.
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I thought he had a mixed day. He had one punt that was very poor, but ended up being decent (this probably saved his average) ... he had one that I felt was pretty good (maybe his second one?) .. and he had every other one that seemed meh I was at the game. I thought he punted well. All the kicks were very high with no returns that I remember. Bard posted the stats....very good IMO. What are you looking for? Swish can answer as well. I am not sure what your expectations might be.
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The titans also had 0 punt return yards, so where he kicked it was where it stayed.
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The titans also had 0 punt return yards, so where he kicked it was where it stayed. Like I said, I didn't remember any returns, so thanks for the verification. Several weeks ago when he busted off a 70 some yard punt, Freddie was talking about if they had a guy who could catch it, they would have room to run, so the guy who is coachable. He is striving for maximum height and distance. Ray Guy found that balance. It's one thing to kick it 70 yards but if the returner has 15 yards of open field, you outkicked the coverage. Not to mention he had to punt a few inside the 20, which he did, but would have resulted in a net loss had he just hammered it.
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He wasn't exactly terrible.
It was everyone else that looked like a spoiled Haggis... Have you ever seen a haggis? How can you tell if it's spoiled?
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The Hammer came through.....he did his job and our all pro CB got torched all game. Don't understand how the team could suck so quickly.....GO Browns!!!!
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I thought he had a mixed day. He had one punt that was very poor, but ended up being decent (this probably saved his average) ... he had one that I felt was pretty good (maybe his second one?) .. and he had every other one that seemed meh It wasn't a great day, but if we talk about one that helped his average, we should talk about one that hurt it. From their 45 to their 5... only 40 yards, but a fair catch at the five. That's what everyone seemed to worry about -- "nailing them deep". That punt was perfection as there was a group of three there for a meet and greet had the returner chosen to return.
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He wasn't exactly terrible.
It was everyone else that looked like a spoiled Haggis... Have you ever seen a haggis? How can you tell if it's spoiled? I've eaten haggis. Trust me, if it tastes good, that means it IS spoiled.
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