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This should be the Biden Official Inquiry NOT the Trump Official Inquiry.

I think that Bolton and perhaps Coats found out about the call and/or complaint and bailed.

Bolton for sure, I am less positive about Coats, but he did resign/fired 3 days after the call.

Bolton was fired/resigned Sept 10, from what I have seen.

McGuire inherited the mess.

Coats probably called him out on it and was hardballed.

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Multiple people close to Trump and his campaign sent to prison ... Multiple counts of Trump obstructing justice .... Mueller stating that too many people lying to know the whole truth on "collusion" .... And that was egg on the Dems face ?

Let me know what it is you think Biden us guilty of ... Please.

Here's bidens own words for you.

I remember going over and convincing our team, others, to convince that we should be providing for loan guarantees. And I went over, I guess, the 12th, 13th time to Kiev. And I was supposed to announce that there was another billion-dollar loan guarantee. And I had gotten a commitment from Poroshenko and from Yatsenyuk that they would take action against the state prosecutor. And they didn’t.

So they said they had—they were walking out to a press conference. I said, nah, I’m not going to—or, we’re not going to give you the billion dollars. They said, you have no authority. You’re not the president. The president said—I said, call him. (Laughter.) I said, I’m telling you, you’re not getting the billion dollars. I said, you’re not getting the billion. I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money. Well, son of a b-tch. (Laughter.) He got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time.

Yes.

That was all regarding removing a corrupt official. It was in line with the efforts of the rest of Europe. It had nothing to do with his son.

Tell me what crime you think Biden is guilty of.

Bro no matter how many times we tell him the timeline, he won’t believe it.

He pulled the same crap with uranium one and Obama’s birth certificate.

And then they acting like we give a damn what happens to Biden anyway, as if any of it clears trump from what he did.

Lol ..if trump wouldn’t say and do stupid crap nobody would be going after him.

Exept the prosecutor was not corrupt. A bunch of documentation came out yesterday, including sworn statements from coworkers, that he was not corrupt. He was told by superiors that he was fired for stuffing too deep into bidens business dealings.

Tsk tsk. Get your facts straight. I always said that if obummer was a foreigner, that the Clinton machine would have exposed him. I also said that when the question came up, he should have released his birth certificate. Even McCain had to answer questions on eligibility.

Second and third hand info bro, and with no substantiated evidence like the whistleblower has.

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Dude you need to get your facts straight. An American can be born in any country, having one parent that is a US citizen makes them a US citizen legally. But yeah you Gopers don’t care too much for the law of land when it comes to minorities do you?

I'm not sure how important this is if the House is taking a 2 week recess instead of furthering the inquiry as quick as possible. Looks like the people are more concerned than any of the politicians.

Breaking ...Intel members are told to be ready to return.

Every republican but trump up for election in 2020 should be saying there is something here.

Over 300 national security officials support impeachment.

Rudy better bail while he can. He’ll die in jail.

j/c

Spent 5 minutes rooting for a neutral or clear view of Biden/Ukraine/Trump situation. Found this on one is simple and pretty complete -- the only thing it does not mention is that most of EU also wanted Shokin removed and were actively asserting pressure to achieve that goal:

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/hayesbrown/trump-ukraine-biden-giuliani-whistleblower-explain

I do like the very top comment on the article which I was also struck with. . . .

Anyone else see the utter hypocrisy of the Trump administration in trying to go after another family for nepotism and using political office to enrich their family privately?

End of the day if Biden or Biden did something unlawful - investigate and process. It does not in any way shape or format excuse what Trump did ... Seriously can not even imagine how the 'Right' would have exploded at something like this if it had been Obama. Heck - all hell broke out when he bowed in traditional greeting to (Saudi?) royalty. smh

There is a story this morning that the Kremlin really hopes that nobody looks in the vault and uncovers Trump and Putins phone calls.

Those conversations that no-one was witness to? Where Trump dismissed any US representative / interpreter etc? Those conversations? I don't know what calls would have taken place and what would have been said....

I'm happy to focus on one thing at a time - let's get to as much of the truth about this conversation and subsequent cover up as we can...

That makes it all better right?

They melted down when President Obama wore a tan suit. Yet they stand by while trump clears the room to talk to Putin. It’s insanity.

Sworn statements under threat of perjury. Much better than hearing something from anonymous sources.

How many anonymous sources has it been in the past 3 years.

By melted down, you mean a handful of GOPers said they didn't think he looked presidential and was sending the wrong message.. and people made a bunch of funny memes about "The Audacity of Taupe"?

OK ..Then why did WH officials and trump scramble and directed the phone transcripts to be hidden up on that super secure server?

I think the difference this time is the direct involvement of Trump himself.

This time his love of conspiracy theories is coming back at him.

I get that he can have Rudy as his personal lawyer. However Rudy’s stated association or non association with the State Department is a problem.

His numerous references to Barr and Rudy in the same sentence is an even bigger problem.

His decision to withhold military aid is damning.

It does not take Einstein to figure this one out.

I foresee more claims of executive privilege. But Executive Privilege cannot be used to cover criminal activity.

The ICIG found the claim credible and urgent. That may be more damaging than the complaint itself. Poof goes executive privilege.

It will be interesting for sure.

But Trump is used to being in hot water, so it is premature to call for Dandy Don.

Because they could. It looks bad but not may not be illegal. Every one should have some discretion as to how things are filed. Show me a statute or law that was broken.

Otherwise it is just another piece of evidence that they knew the phone call was a problem.

Ukraine's prosecutor says no probe into Biden

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/kremlin-says-hopes-us-wouldnt-110827606.html

Pfft trump era ...cover up of a cover up...lol nothing to see here. Hides behind curtain. The Grand wizard knows all

Rudy Calls on State Department Official to ‘Step Forward and Explain’ Ukraine Outreach

https://news.yahoo.com/rudy-calls-state-department-official-041223205.html

They’re all tossing each other under the bus lmfao

Because the usual server has leaks.

Just stop already with the lies.

Rosenstein was appointed by Trump. He is a Republican. Rosenstein appointed Muller, yet another Republican as a special prosecutor to head up the Russian investigation.

Stop blaming the Democrats for what Republicans did,

First on CNN: White House says lawyers directed moving Ukraine transcript to highly secure system

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/27/politics/donald-trump-ukraine-transcript-white-house/index.html

Oh look, the guy running his mouth the most about servers is now involved in a scandal dealing with....lol.

And he's telling a lie anyway. It wasn't Democrats who started the Russia probe. It was actually a Trump appointee, Rosenstein. Trump nominated Rosenstein in January of 2017. He was confirmed by a majority Republican senate. Then Rosenstein appointed Mueller, yet another Republican as special counsel to investigate Trump and his campaign.

So all of their rants about Democrats being responsible for the Russian probe?

It's a total lie.

“It is impossible that the whistle-blower is a hero and I’m not. And I will be the hero! These morons—when this is over, I will be the hero,” Giuliani told me.

“I’m not acting as a lawyer. I’m acting as someone who has devoted most of his life to straightening out government,” he continued, sounding out of breath. “Anything I did should be praised.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/09/giuliani-ukraine-trump-biden/598879/

Umm....guys? Rudy starting to talk like someone who is about to be cut off, and hit with the “he’s a good man, terrible what’s happening to him”.

Ruh ro, rorge. Looks like Trump was following the letter of the law. Shout out to slick willy.

https://www.congress.gov/treaty-document/106th-congress/16/document-text

I want more info on the calls Trump called Pence out for... are we going to be rid of Trump and Pence? Giuliani is toast, he sounds like a guy on his way to jail.