DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Why is Nick Chubb getting low grades, low value from analytics websites?

And that's another thing I really like about him.

I loved both of these guys but my memory of Leroy Kelly was not one of speed. Kelly seemed to be a "mudder" and ran on his toes, or so it appeared. His shoulders also appeared to move sideways when he ran. Strange running style to me.

My other memory of Leroy was his brother Pat Kelly played for the White Sox and other MLB teams IIRC. My memory did not have to be great for that because it seemed to get mentioned a lot of TV games.

Vers you have mentioned a lot about Chubb's character being outstanding. I love players like that but I can't say I recall specifics. Can you elaborate some "stories" you are aware of. I enjoy rooting for players I respect.

He was a mudder but he had a second gear similar to Chubb, remember he was one of the top PR of his era for a reason ...

Here are a few links and video. But, even more than that.........it's how Chubb carries himself. He is not a "look-at-me" guy. He is an extremely hard worker who shows up and does his job very well. He doesn't seek attention or even want it. He didn't complain or hold grudges when he wasn't starting. He kept quiet and balled. I really respect guys like that.


https://www.dawgnation.com/football/team-news/the-legend-of-nick-chubb-begins-in-chubbtown

https://www.dawgnation.com/football/georgias-nick-chubb-glad-to-finally-give-back-to-cedartown

https://popculture.com/sports/2019/07/31/nick-chubb-cleveland-browns-fan-tears-birthday-surprise/

Leroy Kelly, in a 10-year tenure with the Cleveland Browns from 1964 through 1973, established himself as one of the most feared ball carriers in the history of the National Football League.

Overall, he rushed for 7,274 yards and ranked among the top 20 all-time rushers until midway through 1993 season. He added 2,281 yards on 190 pass receptions and excelled as a punt and kickoff return specialist, particularly in his early years in the NFL. His combined net yards total of 12,330 on rushes, receptions and returns ranks him among the best ever.

Kelly was an eighth-round pick of the Browns in the 1964 draft after a fine four-year career at Morgan State. For his first two years, he was an understudy to Jim Brown, the most prolific ground-gainer in history up to that time. When Brown retired just before the 1966 campaign, Kelly filled the void in a manner seldom seen in pro football circles.

For the next three years, he rushed for 1,000 yards, winning All-NFL honors each year and being selected as a starter in three straight Pro Bowls. Kelly also played in three other Pro Bowls following the 1969, 1970 and 1971 seasons, and earned first-team All-NFL in 1969 and 1971.

During his career, he won four individual statistical championships, including NFL rushing titles in 1967 and 1968. In 1965, he won the NFL punt return title, an honor he repeated in the AFC in 1971. Noted as an exceptionally fine runner on muddy fields, the 6-0, 202-pound Kelly favored the famed Browns trap play up the middle for his major yardage ventures but he was equally devastating on sweeps or as a receiver. HIS QUICK STARTING ABILITY, ALONG WITH A SINCE OF BALANCE AND KNACK OF EVADING DIRECT HITS BY TACKLERS, kept him relatively injury-free, missing only four games in 10 years and never more than one game per season.

I told you before we drafted him Diam that he was my #1 RB in the draft (in part because we did not need to use our 1st or our 4th selections).

It's Good to watch Chubb fulfilling expectations.

I still like to compare him with Jamal Lewis.

THanks Vers. Good stuff. like I said, I prefer to root for "good guys". I read about Christian Kirksey and his family also. I would love to see more athletes less interested in gold jewelry. expensive cars and more about helping those less fortunate.

I also am pretty confident that many do so without that word getting out.

High School Nick Chubb...

I Just meant that when he's flat out running it looks slow because each stride is soo long. It's deceptive because He covers so much ground when he opens up

Good take. Earlier in the game, I made a comment to my son that it doesn't look like Chubb is running fast, but he is getting by guys. He started laughing because he liked Chubb in the draft way more than I did.

But yeah, you are right. He doesn't look like he's fast, but in fact, he really is. Nice call by you.

He has good balance and vision, and is deceptively quick - faster than he seems.

I like how he finishes a run, moving forward with power to get an extra yard or three.

He did that a few times yesterday.

So probably dumb question, but those are doctored right?

He looks really old in the one.

the one where he's jumping is from high school.

Kid is only 23.. sometimes you get kids who look like men among boys.

I mean... Lebron's hairline was already receding as he was coming into the league... LOL

Not doctored. Just an odd shot because he is probably running 20+ MPH and his face is distorted.

Otherwise, that's HS Chubb.

https://www.panthers.com/news/a-high-sch...bout-nick-chubb

Man, that’s a pretty jacked high school kid lol ... he’s no doubt a freak

Tangent alert...

Thanks everyone for talking about this guy. It's really great to look into what kinda guy he is. Vers' description of what he's like (as much as we can know about the guy) is really cool.

I want a Nick Chubb jersey.

This PC is pretty boring. But, I am going to post it because you can see how Nick Chubb is uncomfortable in the limelight, how he gives credit to others, how important this game is to him, and how focused he is on football. I was not thrilled by this draft choice, but I was wrong.

Nick Chubb is awesome.

My favorite Browns...Chubb, Larry O., Bitonio, and Jarvis.

Diam is right...Jarvis is the heart and soul of this team.

Chubb is the ideal RB, teammate, and representation of our franchise IMO. Tough, humble, fabulous

Does anyone else find it odd that there is no logo, no team name, no nothing on Chubb's uniform in highschool?

Every other athlete in the photos has a school name, or a logo. I have never been to a high school sporting event where there isn't SOME kind of name or logo on the uniform.

I like Chubb - a lot. But I have to wonder about the pictures.

Here is another pic. None of them have logos.

Good pic.

I was a sprinter in high school, but chose to play baseball. I ask that you check out a couple of things. See his left hand? Ideal. Always turn your fingers to the sky for less wind resistance. Also, note his head position and compare it to the dude who is third. Never, ever......tilt your chin up like the 3rd dude did. Now, look at Chubb's feet. Truly fast dudes spend a ton of time w/their feet off the ground. I know that sounds weird, but it's true...y'all. LOL

The guy in second does. The guy in 3rd has something on his left shoulder. Chubb has something on his right chest.

Then, check out the red stripe on Chubb's right leg.

are we sure that's Nick?

You just hate Chubb. LOL

Sorry, I could not resist.

I don't hate him. I love him. He's a stud back, no doubt. He should be getting the ball more - as he did against the ravens. I just question the photos, and I've pointed out why I question them.

Add this: If that was him as a senior in high school, he's gained no muscle definition in the past 4 years?

it was a joke, arch. I based it off your absurd claims that I "hate" Baker and Freddie.

j/c...

Great photo...

That pic is cool as can be. But, for folks who want to learn a little bit...I encourage you to look at Chubb's body posture. Feet underneath him, balanced arms, and most importantly, the shoulders leaning forward. That's the difference between falling forward and being stood up when being tackled. This dude has sound RB mechanics.

They all have the same pants, so I'd guess they are all on the same team/from the same school. Does it matter? Gonna photoshop 2 teens and 1 stud with the same pants? Probably not.

I gotta agree w/arch...pics look strange to me. I'm not saying they're not legit but they look odd.

What's even going on in the upper right picture?

Nah, it doesn't matter really. Other than, I've never seen 3 athletes from the same school wearing 3 different uniforms. And Chubb with shorts that have a stripe that goes .........really, behind him.

I think they are photoshopped. Doesn't matter.

The guy in third is wearing a Nike shirt. Chubb is wearing an Adidas shirt and the red behind Chubb is two hurdles stacked.

Dudes:

Aint no bigger Superman track uni than his Cleveland Browns Uniform.

Why would anyone care or need to photoshop HS track pics?

They don't look photoshopped to me. And I work with photoshop everyday. And deal with bogus art on the regular.

That’s a cool picture! I hope he sees that one

To me it looks like the stripe on the right leg goes off his pants and is up in the air.

I believe that's a perfectly timed photo and the pant leg color runs into the hurdle of similar color in the background.

Is this photoshopped?