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That's my point. And they [u](ALL extremists no matter what their religion may be)
hide behind the misread, distorted & warped interpretations of the gospel within their books.



I agree. EXTREMISTS are..........EXTREME.

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those who are obviously racist, yet who claim to be "Christian"
and who have paintings of some mystic long haired bearded white guy should also remember that Jesus was most definitely brown!


First, who cares what color he was?

Second, it makes 100% sense that he was dark skinned.

Third - your phrase "those who are obviously racist, yet who claim to be "Christian"...........what does that mean exactly?

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First, who cares what color he was?

Second, it makes 100% sense that he was dark skinned.

Third - your phrase "those who are obviously racist, yet who claim to be "Christian"...........what does that mean exactly?


1. Imagery in the west whitewashes Jesus to "subtly" suit systemic racism & white supremacists agenda. This is an absolute fact.

2. Agreed.

3. I am not religious, but my understanding of the gospel is that people who are claim to be (and should be) loving and tolerant of ALL. This includes all races, all cultures, all other religions, and those in the LGBTQ+ community. However, religion is often used to hate others. Westboro Baptist and the Taliban are the extreme, but even in less extreme cases it has become a way to judge others who live life differently, look differently, believe differently and in extreme cases it is used to fuel hate and violence to suit their racist, homophobic, misogynist agenda. In the Political forum it has been mentioned numerous times that Pete B. will struggle to win the nomination simply because of his sexuality. And, especially winning votes from the Evangelical right. This isn't Westboro we are talking about...this is run of the mill evangelical Christians that many feel would struggle to vote for him. Why is that? And, Arch...although you and I differ politically, I know in my heart that you know in your heart it isn't because of Pete's politics. This is the point of my statement.

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Middle Eastern men have Middle Eastern noses.

White Jesus has a white nose.

Black Jesus looks black.

I never really cared what Jesus looks like, because does it matter?


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Black jesus also had his license suspended.


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jesus would be deported by Trump if he showed up today.


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What I find very hypocritical and scary is just how similar the extreme, radicalization and far right, evangelical Christian belief is to Islamic extremism such as the Taliban & ISIS. The comparisons are frightening, yet the radical Christians are too blind to see it in their quickness to call others evil.


Oh please, in what way do you compare Christianity to radical Islam? I don't know where you lefties get your ideas .

I don't go to Church anymore probably because I'm to lazy but when I did go I never heard a Preacher tell anybody to go out and kill people that didn't think like we do.

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6th century Greek portrait... makes it hard to buy the "west whitewashes Jesus" bs.




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So Greeks think Jesus looks Greek? What a surprise.

I am sure there is some biological phenomena where a culture/race thinks their hero looks like them. But I dont feel like looking it up.


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What I find very hypocritical and scary is just how similar the extreme, radicalization and far right, evangelical Christian belief is to Islamic extremism such as the Taliban & ISIS. The comparisons are frightening, yet the radical Christians are too blind to see it in their quickness to call others evil.


Oh please, in what way do you compare Christianity to radical Islam? I don't know where you lefties get your ideas .

I don't go to Church anymore probably because I'm to lazy but when I did go I never heard a Preacher tell anybody to go out and kill people that didn't think like we do.


Westboro Baptists, perhaps?

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6th century Greek portrait... makes it hard to buy the "west whitewashes Jesus" bs.






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What I find very hypocritical and scary is just how similar the extreme, radicalization and far right, evangelical Christian belief is to Islamic extremism such as the Taliban & ISIS. The comparisons are frightening, yet the radical Christians are too blind to see it in their quickness to call others evil.


Oh please, in what way do you compare Christianity to radical Islam? I don't know where you lefties get your ideas .

I don't go to Church anymore probably because I'm to lazy but when I did go I never heard a Preacher tell anybody to go out and kill people that didn't think like we do.


Westboro Baptists, perhaps?


Since you are ok with judging all Christians based on the actions of 1 loony tunes church, I'm sure you will be ok with Americans judging Muslims based on the actions on a bunch of radical islamists.

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What I find very hypocritical and scary is just how similar the extreme, radicalization and far right, evangelical Christian belief is to Islamic extremism such as the Taliban & ISIS. The comparisons are frightening, yet the radical Christians are too blind to see it in their quickness to call others evil.


Oh please, in what way do you compare Christianity to radical Islam? I don't know where you lefties get your ideas .

I don't go to Church anymore probably because I'm to lazy but when I did go I never heard a Preacher tell anybody to go out and kill people that didn't think like we do.


Westboro Baptists, perhaps?


Since you are ok with judging all Christians based on the actions of 1 loony tunes church, I'm sure you will be ok with Americans judging Muslims based on the actions on a bunch of radical islamists.

tsktsk


No...they just immediately came to mind. There are plenty of others. Westboro are just easy to point out.

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What I find very hypocritical and scary is just how similar the extreme, radicalization and far right, evangelical Christian belief is to Islamic extremism such as the Taliban & ISIS. The comparisons are frightening, yet the radical Christians are too blind to see it in their quickness to call others evil.


Oh please, in what way do you compare Christianity to radical Islam? I don't know where you lefties get your ideas .

I don't go to Church anymore probably because I'm to lazy but when I did go I never heard a Preacher tell anybody to go out and kill people that didn't think like we do.


Westboro Baptists, perhaps?


Since you are ok with judging all Christians based on the actions of 1 loony tunes church, I'm sure you will be ok with Americans judging Muslims based on the actions on a bunch of radical islamists.

tsktsk


No...they just immediately came to mind. There are plenty of others. Westboro are just easy to point out.


There are plenty of radical islamists who have murdered thousands and thousands. Don't get mad when Americans judge Muslims. Or you are a hypocrit.


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have you seen the body count of christians throughout history?

Christians judging muslims and vice versa:



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have you seen the body count of christians throughout history?

Christians judging muslims and vice versa:



We are talking about current times. History doesn't matter much.

For example:

Men treated women very bad throughout history. I guess you men should be blamed and shamed forever for your bad history of treating women. You are scum forever. Die in a hole scummy male. Get on your knees and crawl around begging for forgiveness from females for the rest of eternity.

You can't blame the current generation for things that happened in the past.


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that sounds like some kinky stuff right there. sign me up!


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What I find very hypocritical and scary is just how similar the extreme, radicalization and far right, evangelical Christian belief is to Islamic extremism such as the Taliban & ISIS. The comparisons are frightening, yet the radical Christians are too blind to see it in their quickness to call others evil.


Oh please, in what way do you compare Christianity to radical Islam? I don't know where you lefties get your ideas .

I don't go to Church anymore probably because I'm to lazy but when I did go I never heard a Preacher tell anybody to go out and kill people that didn't think like we do.


Westboro Baptists, perhaps?


Since you are ok with judging all Christians based on the actions of 1 loony tunes church, I'm sure you will be ok with Americans judging Muslims based on the actions on a bunch of radical islamists.

tsktsk


No...they just immediately came to mind. There are plenty of others. Westboro are just easy to point out.


There are plenty of radical islamists who have murdered thousands and thousands. Don't get mad when Americans judge Muslims. Or you are a hypocrit.


Considering the sheer number of Muslims in the world it is a very tiny extreme group and I won't fall for the xenophobia or broad brushstroke propaganda that Western media paints Islam with. My initial reply commented on the hypocrisy of the extreme Christians who criticise extreme Islam & Jihadists yet can't see the extremism within their own beliefs.

I also said in another thread (to you, actually) that I have no problem if people need religion in their life, however, please don't misinterpret, distort or radicalize the words in the book to judge, criticize or hate (or worse propagate violence) on those who live, think or look differently.

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now for a somewhat serious comment to that:

men not only have historically treated women like absolute trash (from arranged marriages, to improper workplace behavior), but they continue to do so as we speak.

as we speak, some woman has just been raped, sexually assaulted, and/or worse.

so while it isnt ALL men, its more than enough to consider it a big freaking problem.

just like these losers radical muslims.

but as it relates to this topic, JUST like christian americans.

sure, christians arent lynching people left and right (anymore), but what am i suppose to do? give them browny points for laying off their murderous ways and swapping to just straight up discrimination and bigotry?

Am i suppose to give credit for christians "evolving" from murder to molesting/raping little kids?

yea Eve, what an upgrade in our modern times, right? go ask those american kids who got molested by priest if they care about the body count of muslims in the middle east.

that has ZERO to do with whats happening right here in America.


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that sounds like some kinky stuff right there. sign me up!


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that sounds like some kinky stuff right there. sign me up!


Careful bro, don't get tied to a bed.


if thy lord commands it....


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YOU are the one complaining about "Radical Christians". Whining about it, when it isn't even a phenomena like that, that actually exists in this country. Westboro is nasty for sure, but they don't have an ethos of murder.

If you want to whine like that, then don't complain when people judge Muslims, who have a very bad current ongoing problem with mass murders, misogyny, and pedophilia.

The xenophobe is YOU and YOUR KIND.

It makes you look bad. This is one reason nobody can take liberals seriously. Your beliefs are just as wacked as Westboro.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
now for a somewhat serious comment to that:

men not only have historically treated women like absolute trash (from arranged marriages, to improper workplace behavior), but they continue to do so as we speak.

as we speak, some woman has just been raped, sexually assaulted, and/or worse.

so while it isnt ALL men, its more than enough to consider it a big freaking problem.

just like these losers radical muslims.

but as it relates to this topic, JUST like christian americans.

sure, christians arent lynching people left and right (anymore), but what am i suppose to do? give them browny points for laying off their murderous ways and swapping to just straight up discrimination and bigotry?

Am i suppose to give credit for christians "evolving" from murder to molesting/raping little kids?

yea Eve, what an upgrade in our modern times, right? go ask those american kids who got molested by priest if they care about the body count of muslims in the middle east.

that has ZERO to do with whats happening right here in America.


You missed the point. The problem is that you lefties are hypocrits.

99% of Christians are fine moral people. Yet, you want to manufacture hate towards them based on a handful of problems.

And you sit there and call people xenophobes for disliking Muslims because of their issues.

You are just as much as a xenophobe.

That is hypocritical behavior.

But I suppose it's the same as the war thing. You lefties have meltdowns about wars, except when it is the war YOU want.

I roll my eyes so hard at yall.


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What about all the trumpian christians? They ass killin' me!

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But seriously, there are some right-wing Christian militia groups that are pretty extreme, some bigots and fascists are christians too. They are extremist domestic terrorists. And there are probably a group or few that are that way on the left. I mean I know there are a lot of people that want Antifa and BLM labeled terrorists and I doubt very seriously that they are Christian free.

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Originally Posted By: EveDawg

YOU are the one complaining about "Radical Christians". Whining about it, when it isn't even a phenomena like that, that actually exists in this country. Westboro is nasty for sure, but they don't have an ethos of murder.

If you want to whine like that, then don't complain when people judge Muslims, who have a very bad current ongoing problem with mass murders, misogyny, and pedophilia.

The xenophobe is YOU and YOUR KIND.

It makes you look bad. This is one reason nobody can take liberals seriously. Your beliefs are just as wacked as Westboro.


Yep, I have a problem with extremism in religion (not just Christianity).

But, let's remove radical Christianity and extremists from the conversation.

Tell me honestly why Pete B. has a tougher hill to climb to be the nominee or President. Is it because of his politics or do you think it's because of his private life and who he chooses to love? Because if it's the latter....I have a problem with that too because homophobia is rooted in puritanical and many mainstream Christian values.

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so which war in my 4 deployments was the one i wanted or supported? cant wait to hear the response.

also, i dunno how many times i have to tell you i hate all religions, so you going "what about muslims" means absolutely nothing to me, especially since i fought against muslim extremist while people like you stayed in your safe spaces.

but here in THIS country, ya know, titled "Share of Christians in America dropping sharply", the dominant religion in this country is.....

you guessed it, CHRISTIANITY. and as such, they will get talked about far more than islam will.

im not a hypocrite, but you are indeed soft.


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What about all the trumpian christians? They ass killin' me!

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But seriously, there are some right-wing Christian militia groups that are pretty extreme, some bigots and fascists are christians too. They are extremist domestic terrorists. And there are probably a group or few that are that way on the left. I mean I know there are a lot of people that want Antifa and BLM labeled terrorists and I doubt very seriously that they are Christian free.


When they start suicide bombing civilian populations on a daily basis, let me know. When they fly planes into buildings, let me know. When they treat women in horrifying ways that are basically acceptable to their religion, and by law in their countries, let me know. When they marry six year olds and consummate the marriage at 9, let know.

Islam is such a great religion.

Yet the upstanding moral Christians, with a few outlier wackjobs, clearly are the problem.

You liberals have no idea how bad you look.


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so which war in my 4 deployments was the one i wanted or supported? cant wait to hear the response.

also, i dunno how many times i have to tell you i hate all religions, so you going "what about muslims" means absolutely nothing to me, especially since i fought against muslim extremist while people like you stayed in your safe spaces.

but here in THIS country, ya know, titled "Share of Christians in America dropping sharply", the dominant religion in this country is.....

you guessed it, CHRISTIANITY. and as such, they will get talked about far more than islam will.

im not a hypocrite, but you are indeed soft.


You want us to go to war with Turkey. Our NATO ally.

That is what I'm talking about.

War is fine when you cherry pick it. Same with Cons.

You all are the SAME.


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and now you're lying cause you're losing badly.

oh my bad you're a trump supporter. i meant "bigly"

you cant point to a single post about me wanting to go to war against Turkey.

so now you're a liar and soft. sounds very christian.


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and now you're lying cause you're losing badly.

oh my bad you're a trump supporter. i meant "bigly"

you cant point to a single post about me wanting to go to war against Turkey.

so now you're a liar and soft. sounds very christian.


I don't have a post of you in particular. I am talking about you lefties on this forum having a meltdown because Trump doesn't want to do anything about Turkey. You are all about having wars when you cherry pick it.

And I hope I'm soft. I don't want hard rough skin.

I don't know you mean by that. I could probably verbally eviscerate anybody, but this forum has rules.


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what was that? sorry, i dont speak Heretic.


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what was that? sorry, i dont speak Heretic.


Ok, avoider.


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and now you're lying cause you're losing badly.

oh my bad you're a trump supporter. i meant "bigly"

you cant point to a single post about me wanting to go to war against Turkey.

so now you're a liar and soft. sounds very christian.


I don't have a post of you in particular. I am talking about you lefties on this forum having a meltdown because Trump doesn't want to do anything about Turkey. You are all about having wars when you cherry pick it.

And I hope I'm soft. I don't want hard rough skin.

I don't know you mean by that. I could probably verbally eviscerate anybody, but this forum has rules.


Now now now...don't make assumptions on all of us Lefties, Eve. I haven't chimed into that thread.

Oh, and yeah, I've seen you eviscerate many in here. In particular those who think they are tough guys. But, Swish can also box with anybody in here. You both have the witty snark to out duel most.

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Swish and I used to go at it. But now, not so much.

I am kind of over this PP forum for the most part.

Because it's the same thing over and over.

I only like to point out things from time to time.

Like the hypocrisy about the xenophobia towards Christians.


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for what? you and i dont actually disagree on much.

and a lot of our spats are due to...i dunno, boredom?


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Like the hypocrisy about the xenophobia towards Christians.


Which is interesting considering your very first post in this forum (#1680403 on page 1).

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Like the hypocrisy about the xenophobia towards Christians.


Which is interesting considering your very first post in this forum (#1680403 on page 1).


I don't have issues with Christians. I have issues with God. That's two different things. Mostly I feel Christians are brainwashed, but their general beliefs make them good people.


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for what? you and i dont actually disagree on much.

and a lot of our spats are due to...i dunno, boredom?


I can agree with that. We used to disagree on racial stuff and political stuff.

I'm just over fighting about that. There hasn't been very many polarizing issues that I feel strongly about for a while now.

It's more fun just to be happy about the Browns and AU. My mental energy is needed with my biz right now.


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Like the hypocrisy about the xenophobia towards Christians.


Which is interesting considering your very first post in this forum (#1680403 on page 1).


I don't have issues with Christians. I have issues with God. That's two different things. Mostly I feel Christians are brainwashed, but their general beliefs make them good people.



But, you never answered my question above about Pete B. So, I will ask you again:

Tell me honestly why Pete B. has a tougher hill to climb to be the nominee or President. Is it because of his politics or do you think it's because of his private life and who he chooses to love? Because if it's the latter....I have a problem with that too because homophobia is rooted in puritanical and many mainstream Christian values.

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