DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Palus Politicus Smugglers are reportedly cutting holes in Trump’s newly constructed border wall with saws and power tools

conservatives love talking about wasteful government spending.

anyone with a functioning brain knew this was gonna be a waste. congrats, conservatives. thanks to yall, we now have even MORE government waste, and mexico STILL aint cutting the check for this stupid ass wall:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/smugglers-reportedly-cutting-holes-trump-135108809.html

Smuggling gangs in Mexico are reportedly using power tools to cut large holes in walls at the southern US-Mexico border, according to a new report from The Washington Post.

The steel-and-concrete portions of the walls, which President Donald Trump has touted as the solution to the flow of undocumented immigrants coming across the US-Mexico border, can be sawed apart with at least one commercially available cordless tool that retails for less than $100, according to the Post, which cites US border officials with knowledge of the damage.

In addition to cutting through the walls, officials told the Post that smugglers have also repeatedly scaled and climbed over the walls with makeshift ladders, particularly in areas near San Diego.

The report comes as the first and most detailed description of such breaches and says that the lack of government reporting means it is unclear how many times they have occurred. US Customs and Border Protection reportedly declined to provide further information about the number of wall breaches to the Post and had not yet fulfilled a Freedom of Information Act request seeking such data at the time of the report.

One factor of deterrent is electronic sensors that are yet to be added but could sense where and when the wall was damaged, triggering repairs. However, one former border chief said smugglers would likely eventually find a way around those as well.

The wall has been a costly and politically tense issue between lawmakers and Trump, after the president previously enacted what became the longest shutdown in government history when he did not relent in debates with lawmakers through December 2018 on his request for $5 billion to be allocated for the wall.

Despite the president's repeated pushes for the wall, environmental and immigration experts have expressed doubts about its possible effects on nearby areas and its overall efficacy. CBP officials were vocal during Trump's weighing of different designs that a solid concrete wall wouldn't be beneficial to agents who ideally would be able to see through to the other side.

According to the Post's report, smugglers are exploiting the "bollard" style design that the administration eventually settled on, which has been described as part of a "border wall system" as agents insisted a wall alone couldn't safeguard the border.

NBC News reported in January 2019 that a test of a steel bollard wall in Trump's chosen design by the Department of Homeland Security showed the wall could be sawed through.

Photos of the breaches were not included in a redacted version of an internal February 2018 US Customs and Border Protection report that mentioned the faults, NBC reported, and Trump denied the validity of the photos, saying it was "a wall designed by previous administrations," though the one in question was made under his administration.
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my bad, i meant 'barrier' lmfao

A multi billion dollar speed bump.

Tax dollars gloriously wasted.

"Smuggling gangs in Mexico are reportedly using power tools to cut large holes in walls at the southern US-Mexico border, according to a new report from The Washington Post."

Photos...wheres the photos of these "large holes"?

What i really want to know is,can this wall be seen from space?
If not,then it's a second rate wall and pales in comparison to the Great Wall.

How come you guys don't focus on the hugh drop in illegal drugs and aliens coming into the country? The wall is working. Just another win for Trump.

There has been a large drop in drugs on the street? That's news to me.

Can you give us info? How much of trumps wall has been built?
What is the decrease in Drugs and aliens that can be directly linked to the wall? Back it up or it means nothing.

The vast majority of the BARRIER has been replacement barriers.

And yet drugs are still flowing in like a slashed artery.

I'm not as connected to the streets as I was when I was young. So I really don't know what is or is not available out there. But it must be a virtual pharmacy from the number of junkies and drug bust we see.

Even your president acknowledges it:

After years of touting the impenetrability of a border wall, President Donald Trump said Saturday that "you can cut through any wall" as reports surfaced of smugglers sawing through newly erected barriers with readily available power tools.

"We have a very powerful wall. But no matter how powerful, you can cut through anything, in all fairness. But we have a lot of people watching. You know cutting, cutting is one thing, but it's easily fixed. One of the reasons we did it the way we did it, it's very easily fixed. You put the chunk back in,” Trump said.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-defends-border-wall-design-005629077.html

From Water, Air and Roads. The amount coming across the actual land border is a small fraction of the total.

So we made it breachable like this because we could fix it easily after the breaches... lmao, You just can't make this crap up.

Bro not only is everything available but the prices are dropping. THATS how much supply is out here.

They only up the price when there’s a drought. And the droughts happen because consumers...uhh, consumed all the supply. But the droughts are happening less and less.

It’s got to the point that in some places, the hard drugs are costing less than weed. And weed prices have plummeted.

The multi billion dollar money pit now needs constant repairs and monitoring. Awesome. This shouldn’t cost much.... for Mexico to pay for. Right Dawg Duty?

:rollseyes:

And that has always been the problem with this dumbass wall.

46% of illegal migration come through legal points if entry.

So a wall MIGHT only solve HALF the problem with migrants.

Then, drugs are coming from everywhere, so a wall was NEVER gonna contain the flow.

It’s basic supply and demand. Americans are demanding these drugs. People will find ways to get them.

And humans figure out how to get around walls hundreds of years ago, so how gullible must one be to think somehow trying to build a 1000 mile wall was gonna work?

The same gullible people who also thought Mexico was gonna pay for it.

Leave me out of your mouth Portland. Everytime we get into it I get banned and you don't.Thats how guys like you roll.

Because I bring facts. You bring nothing. You get banned for doing stuff that gets you banned. Don’t put it on me.

So, Mexico, paying or not?

I sense some Trumpian tears/moist cheeks.

So then what's your solution?

We’ve had this discussion a thousand times. Go look at other threads for my solutions.

with a $100 reciprocating saw.. LOL,,,, I mean, come on, didn't they think of that?

Well apparently our president thinks the barriers can be fixed like a block of legos, so I guess it’s all good lolololol

I guess....LOL

Of course they did. This wasn't about securing the border. Let's be honest here. The Democrats proposed using drones, cameras and other technical advances to help monitor and secure the border. Now? There's the building of a wall that they have to use drones, cameras and other technical measures to monitor the border.

Most people that know anything about this knew the wall wouldn't solve anything. The vast amount of drugs are coming across at legal border crossings, via ships and airplanes. Paco isn't hauling tons of cocaine over the border in his backpack.

The entire idea of a border wall was nothing more than catering to the primal instinct, fear and anger of the Republican base. Now don't get me wrong, there are parts of the border where I think a wall will help at least slow down the influx of mass illegal immigration. But it's not some magic pill, cure all Trump has made it out to be.

At this point, Trump has already claimed his wall can't be breached. That it can't be climbed and nothing can get past it. All of that is nothing but more lies to add to a very long list of them.

I'm not sure at what point or how many more lies he has to tell before his base realizes he's nothing more than the con man he has always been.

Never going to happen. Hell there are some on the right saying he is chosen by god to be our president because of all his flaws...

Trump is chosen by GOD to be our President.

I had no idea God controlled the electoral college.

Now you know.

No, I really don't. I just hear you saying it. Unless you mean it in a "God is just testing our morality and seeing if we'll continue to support a demagogue" kind of way.

Disturbingly disgusting.

OK...so if people are actually cutting through fences, that is an illegal act, no?


Maybe he just wants to prove illegal entry. You can't do it that way.


Good for President Trump. He is proving his point.

#reaching

So you are good with him wasting billions to prove that a $100 saw can get you in illegally? I think it's just another failure on Trump's part. He promised a big beautiful wall, an impenetrable wall... He didn't even know it wasn't possible to build a wall along the full length of the border, so I doubt seriously that he had any kind of 'genius master plot' behind his obvious failure.

LOL....no reaching. Cutting through a fence is clearly illegal if crossing a river isn't.

I don't understand why you support illegal entry. Answer that.. Would you?


We clearly have a problem with illegal entry. I like Mexicans and folks from Central America. They are had working people, family oriented. I just think they need to come in legally and not just swim a river and show up.

Why am I wrong in thinking that?

Now we will see the reach, or you will man up and agree.

This isn't to punk you, but if it isn't legal, it isn't legal. There is no way to justify that in my mind.

Anybody can answer. The questions go to all. Not just you, and I think you are a good skate even if we disagree on many issues. I don't mind disagreement, it's how we learn, but I can't condone illegal behavior.

Got to have to do it the right way. My arms are open for those folks.

For those in the back.... in case you can’t hear...
I. Do. Not. Condone. Illegal. Entry. Period.
I don’t think there’s anyone here that opposes the wall that condones it.
I just know a money pit wall isn’t going to stop it.
I knew the second the liar in chief said Mexico was going to pay for it that this was a lie and would never happen.
I don’t want my tax money wasted on a joke of a wall that can be easily climbed, or cut through with a battery powered saw. A waste of taxpayer money. Period.
...Meanwhile, as I pay taxes, there’s still no healthcare bill proposed by the great orange one. Nor an infrastructure bill. We’re going backwards instead of forwards in clean energy, while public lands are being sold for mining and drilling rights, the keystone pipeline has leaked over 300,000 gallons of oil recently, and the philanderer in chief has cut coal waste dumping regulations.
He’s an ecological and tax payer money dumpster fire with a bad red tie.
But he promised you a wall. He’s raised the brown people as the people’s enemy. You all bought it hook, line, and sinker. So damn the rest of it all.

Screw the wall.

Nobody "supports" illegal entry. You conveniently overlook all of the things Trump claimed this would stop that it's clearly not. He said it couldn't be climbed. Yet I can show you video after video showing it can be.

It's always great to change the subject when Trump is proven to have been wrong. It's actually all the rage these days. But that doesn't change anything no matter how hard you try.