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DevilDawg2847 #1692234 11/14/19 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted By: DevilDawg2847
Frankly, until OBJ can produce the same as what Higgins has in his time in Cleveland, Higgins ought to be in the #1 spot.


Ya ... cause Higgs is better than VG ... rolleyes




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Well...apparently there was ONE more thing I could have done...and you supplied that for me. Thanks Bro! thumbsup

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I can't resist. I really can't.

What's a Higgins????

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Calloway was just waived...it's all yours Rashard.

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Originally Posted By: SuperBrown


What's a Higgins????

The #3 WR on our roster.


Browns is the Browns

... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.

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Theres also a lot people ok with the way Higs has been treated by the team in favor of a guy we just waived, but then have an issue at how players act. I dont hear any of those guys arguing that the team or John Dorsey has acted poorly. Hmmmmm

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Originally Posted By: PrplPplEater
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What's a Higgins????

The #3 WR on our roster.


Purp, you forgot to like your own post.

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Fixed.


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... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.

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Now a solid #3 option with the dismissal of the problem child. Freddie...get this guy on the field. Moving on...


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This may have been Dorsey’s way to force FK to play Higgy more ... release Callaway and focus on the reliable one


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Cool .... Higgs is finally the #3 .... wooooooohooooo ...

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This may have been Dorsey’s way to force FK to play Higgy more ... release Callaway and focus on the reliable one


Uggh, that would be like Hugh Jackson all over again. Having to trade Hyde just to get Chubb on the field.

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This may have been Dorsey’s way to force FK to play Higgy more ... release Callaway and focus on the reliable one


Uggh, that would be like Hugh Jackson all over again. Having to trade Hyde just to get Chubb on the field.
exactly


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
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This may have been Dorsey’s way to force FK to play Higgy more ... release Callaway and focus on the reliable one


It sure did not appear that there was a problem with Freddie and Higgs after the game last Sunday when they embraced eachother.

IE; I think that you discribed the problem, but from the wrong perspective.

Callaway was joined at the hip with the guy who draft him, going out on a limb for him, not his head coach.


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A part of me thinks that Dorsey is making his coach play the players on the team that Dorsey wants him to play and he gets rid of others that he doesn't want Kitchens to play.


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Originally Posted By: superbowldogg
A part of me thinks that Dorsey is making his coach play the players on the team that Dorsey wants him to play and he gets rid of others that he doesn't want Kitchens to play.


I've heard a lot of this ^^^ lately.....control was a big reason why Freddie was hired to begin with.

I haven't seen anything yet to convince me otherwise the way these past two season have gone down. Perhaps it has something to do with how he was fired in KC and losing that same control to Any Reid? Doesn't want it to happen again?


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Devil’s advocate...
Maybe Higs sat as we knew what we had in him. For good, and bad. Maybe Calloway got some playing time at Higs’ expense to see if he responded and played well. He didn’t... and he became problematic in other ways. He was cut fully knowing what we had as both a player and a person. Maybe if Calloway had performed better he’d still be in the team, post suspension. As it is, no need. Higs gets back on the field. Experiment over.

Just trying to rationalize what we’ve seen this year. Again, just playing devils advocate. Thinking out loud. Make sense if it.


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Originally Posted By: DevilDawg2847
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Do you understand the meaning of a question mark? It appears you think that indicates a statement. Here's a hint. It doesn't.


Don't back out now. Just because you put a question mark at the end of it doesn't hide the fact that you were trying to fraudulently portray the premise of your "question" as a premise he asserted.



I'm defending PitDawg.

That was definitely a question mark.

In fact any time you read a questionable statement, chances are it came out of PitDawg's mouth!

rofl

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Originally Posted By: PrplPplEater
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What's a Higgins????

The #3 WR on our roster.

Good.

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j/c:

I think I saw Higgins on the field once tonight? But that's it. Something is up.

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That's once more than I saw him.

Callaway is gone and Higgins is still a no show? Definitely a case of where there's smoke there's fire -- there are things afoot, for sure.

That said, the guy that was our #5 WR yesterday morning had a pretty good day.


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prp...agree...the Browns locker room is unsettled and those who are not on the Browns Bus need a time out or possibly a new home.


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I saw Higgins in the game last night when OBJ went out. I think the two backs and TEs were played heavy last night, but Hodge making the field over Higgins surprised me.

I'm beginning to wonder if Kitchens is some kind of pretty tyrant with the non-star players. Sure seems like Higgins is in the dog house since he is easily the third best WR on the team.

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RASHARD HIGGINS
WR, CLEVELAND BROWNS

Rashard Higgins wasn't targeted in the Browns' Week 11 win over the Steelers.

Although he's now the Browns' unquestioned No. 3 receiver following the release of Antonio Callaway, Higgins was on the field for just 28-of-70 snaps. The Browns were featuring lots of two-tight end sets. Higgins got upstaged by No. 4 wideout KhaDarel Hodge, who caught a 41-yard pass. It just isn't happening for Higgins this year, who can't even be trusted as a WR5 in PPR leagues.

Nov 15, 2019, 1:01 AM ET




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We really needed him to open things up for OBJ, VG and Hodge last night ... he was sorely missed and did a great job ... thumbsup




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I thought I caught his number once (not sure) when they pulled OBjr. Don't think that he did a thing, and then Hodge? FK is messing around. Obvious we didn't run the middle enough on first down so we could be behind the chains. Predictable.

It was a win. By the time I was home, the media was all over Myles.

Big win, neh?


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RASHARD HIGGINS
WR, CLEVELAND BROWNS

Rashard Higgins wasn't targeted in the Browns' Week 11 win over the Steelers.

Although he's now the Browns' unquestioned No. 3 receiver following the release of Antonio Callaway, Higgins was on the field for just 28-of-70 snaps. The Browns were featuring lots of two-tight end sets. Higgins got upstaged by No. 4 wideout KhaDarel Hodge, who caught a 41-yard pass. It just isn't happening for Higgins this year, who can't even be trusted as a WR5 in PPR leagues.

Nov 15, 2019, 1:01 AM ET
Surprising he wasn’t even targeted ... though I do admit that Hodge had a nice impact on the game


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You can have the debate Pit...twist and deflect away with impunity. I've done all I can to get you to see the light.


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I'm defending PitDawg.

That was definitely a question mark.

In fact any time you read a questionable statement, chances are it came out of PitDawg's mouth!

rofl


Another great personal jab on a football board. No wonder all the best posters have left this place. All we're left with is........ The evidence of what this place has evolved to speaks for itself.

I sure wish Browns Chat had never closed down. At least the riff raff was elsewhere.


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He was in for 28 snaps and Mayfield didn't target him once? It must be Freddie's fault.

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You are right again PitDawg.

I shouldn't be defending the riff raff that chased all the good posters away.

You can go back to eating your own words now.

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I sure wish Browns Chat had never closed down. At least the riff raff was elsewhere.


thumbsup I can think of a poster or two that I wish would have stayed there.


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Seeing us force feed the ball to OBJ when he is clearly not on the same page as Baker is driving me crazy. Freddy needs to design plays that will start spreading the ball around a little more.

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Fred's afraid to get on OBJs bad side.
OBJ needs to be told,"You're paid well to play ball. Do it." Baker admitted he was kinda holding back and I think the HC is too.

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I sure wish Browns Chat had never closed down. At least the riff raff was elsewhere.


thumbsup I can think of a poster or two that I wish would have stayed there.


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Fred's afraid to get on OBJs bad side.
OBJ needs to be told,"You're paid well to play ball. Do it." Baker admitted he was kinda holding back and I think the HC is too.


You have no idea what is said behind closed doors.

I can't think of too many successful head coaches who read out the riot act on their players in public.


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OBJ is a big problem with this offense ... he’s not running routes that are expected IMO and/or they’re lazy. And we feel responsible to get him the ball. Our best game was when he was a decoy basically


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Has anyone seen Higgins on a milk carton since Buffalo?

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All you had to do was pay attention. He was in for 28 snaps against Pittsburgh.


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