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I can't believe there isn't a thread about this already...
There is too much crap out on the net now for me to post just one article about this...

If you have any good ones please post...

i'll start out with this...
The Case of the Jena Six: Black High School Students Charged with Attempted Murder for Schoolyard Fight After Nooses Are Hung from Tree

Six black students at Jena High School in Central Louisiana were arrested last December after a school fight in which a white student was beaten and suffered a concussion and multiple bruises. The six black students were charged with attempted murder and conspiracy. They face up to 100 years in prison without parole. The fight took place amid mounting racial tension after a black student sat under a tree in the schoolyard where only white students sat. The next day three nooses were hanging from the tree.

Here is a better article n website on the situation

http://www.whileseated.org/photo/003244.shtml

In September 2006, a group of African American high school students in Jena, Louisiana, asked the school for permission to sit beneath a "whites only" shade tree. There was an unwritten rule that blacks couldn't sit beneath the tree. The school said they didn't care where students sat. The next day, students arrived at school to see three nooses (in school colors) hanging from the tree. (Please note, the tree above is not the tree, but a tree at Jena High School.)

The boys who hung the nooses were suspended from school for a few days. The school administration chalked it up as a harmless prank, but Jena's black population didn't take it so lightly. Fights and unrest started breaking out at school. The District Attorney, Reed Walters, was called in to directly address black students at the school and told them all he could "end their life with a stroke of the pen."

Black students were assaulted at white parties. A white man drew a loaded rifle on three black teens at a local convenience store. (They wrestled it from him and ran away.) Someone tried to burn down the school, and on December 4th, a fight broke out that led to six black students being charged with attempted murder. To his word, the D.A. pushed for maximum charges, which carry sentences of eighty years. Four of the six are being tried as adults (ages 17 & 18) and two are juveniles.

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Do you REALLY want to open this can of worms.

Nobody posted it because we already have a couple of threads arguing over race, and I believe that is our limit.

Yes...yes i do...
I've had numerous threads on here in the past telling ppl this still exist only to have ppl tell me they have never experienced or seen this in their life...welp...here is a perfect example of how if you don't see it or experience it doesn't mean it's not still out there.....

Case in point....McNabb's QB comments(not saying i agree with him but i will admit i wouldn't kno wht he is talkin about since i am not a QB or African American)

Yeah BB, we're over our quota for the month.

ah...yah the McNabb thread heh...well this is pretty big tho...i am not trying to start a heated debate or nothin'...i jus think it's messed up somethin like this can still occur in this day and age...

There are ignorant, hateful people all over the place, people realize that. They just know that most people aren't like that, even though some people would like us to believe they are constantly discriminated against. Most people don't buy that.

That is pretty messed up.

I'm glad I havent seen anything like this in my life. Thats just, a mess

ugh

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a fight broke out that led to six black students being charged with attempted murder.

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The "fight" was one kid getting kicked into unconsciousness by 6 others one of whom has a record with the police. Nice slanted website ya got there. So the white kid deserved to be beaten that badly ? They didn't stop kicking this defensless kid until he was lying bleeding and broken on the ground. Yeah, real upstanding black youth they have in Jena huh? Of the 6 all should have been charged with assault for the cowardly way they acted and the convict should be in prison where he will end up anyway. This isn't a boyscout we are talking about here. As for the noose hangers...should have been expelled and charged with a racial intimidation charges because they started all of this garbage and worse yet gave that fat tub of garbage Al Sharpton a platform to spew more garbage from his fat mouth .

Well the good news is that the attempted-murder charges have been reduced now...

Don't sugar coat it, tell us how you really feel.

I agree that they should be punished for messing that kid up...but for attemted murder charge? NO WAY...that isn't right....also not all 6 were included in that fight of the kid...there are lot of facts out of place...one kid says he didn't even know what was going on and saw the fight...next thing he knows his name was thrown into it...

PS- i just thought this one had lot of info...you are more then welcome to post another website that isn't as bias...there is jus too much crap on the web at this point

Actually, the good news is that one has been convicted of aggravated assault and conspiracy to commit aggravated assault. The bad news is that those that hung the nooses up in the tree were never charged.

I'm with Ire. According to even the links on the website from this article, the guy got kicked nearly to death over "running his mouth" and flipping off one of the assailants.

My question is why these 6 weren't charged with hate crimes since (as well as those hanging the nooses up) it is obvious that all these crimes were racially motivated.

That is a good question...i'm not sure either...could it be the same reason why the kids who hung the nooses up didn't get charged? When it comes down to it...One thing is for sure...racisim isn't this obvious throughout the country but it's out there...mostly in the form of institutionalized racisim where even good ppl don't realize when they are being racist cuz thts jus how they were brought up...

The local DA messed this up badly.

I get a little bent out of shape when that fat tub of excrement is concerned. There should be a special place in hell for that parasitic self important race baiting worm .

Correct me if I am wrong, but did't the first kid who was found guilty have an all white jury, and his lawyer didn't even call any witness's in his defense?

Also the kid who was kicked and beaten was treated and released at a local hospital and attended a school activity the same night?

I questioned why those kids weren't charged to (in parenthesis)

I guess the thing that disturbs me most about this case is the underlying racism in this town (and I fear, many towns still in the US). I mean, a "whites only" tree? Also, I read an article in Newsweek that said one of the barbers in town doesn't cut black people's hair because he is afraid his white customers wouldn't want the same scissors that touched black people to touch them.

Now, there are ignorant people everywhere, but it's the fact that things like that still exist that make me worry (and unbelievably angry).

I never judge anyone by race or any other general class. I've known enough people in every category of person that I couldn't stand, and enough people in every category that I liked a lot. Racism, sexism, homophobia, that stuff just never made any sense to me in the least.

This story just sounds too much like the 50s and 60s when all the race wars were going on to just blow off. I had hoped we were past things like this, but I guess not.

I mean, think about it. Could you imagine if your child who was 5 or 6 years old right now came up and asked why the people in the town put nooses on the tree? And what it means for it to be a "whites only" tree? It would be so hard to explain that, IMO. The problem, I fear, is that there would be too many people (1 is too many in my opinion) that, while not condoning it, wouldn't have a problem with it.

JMHO

I don't know about "all white" jury, but he was convicted. Also, the kid was punched and kicked until he was unconscious by 6 people. It doesn't matter if he was treated and released and at an event later that night, IMO.

IMO it does. Whoever hung the nooses should have been punished, and the six kids should have been punished, but 20 years in jail when the kid was walking around on his own the same day Something just don't add up.

Well, the jury didn't convict them of it. That's why I said that good news is that he was convicted of assault. I think the shoes being a weapon is ridiculous. I'm not so quick to say that about attempted murder since 6 kids were beating on 1. There might be merit for that charge.

It would depend a lot on whether other situations like this have turned out the same way (the people being charged with attempted murder instead of just assault).

I see that point. I guess my thinking is that if 6 people are stomping on 1, the intent is pretty obvious and precedents be darned (cleaned that up ) Not doing the right thing before doesn't mean you shouldn't now, if that makes sense.

As is typical in cases such as this, one incident is used to cloud the other.

You have to separate them and understand we are dealing with two separate cases that need to be litigated without prejudice from the other.

When that is done, it is a fairly simple matter to discern.
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Black & white has been with us ever since the first slave ship .. Are things any better than 1865 , 1917 , 1945 , 1968 , 2000 ? ? ? Will there be a time in the next 100 years when we are all brothers ? ?

Case has me a little confused ( to say the least ) .. The noose thing with the tree was taken to lightly by the school and town # 1 .. I have a hard time with equating The noose racist prank , stupidity , to six against one beating and the severity ?

I am not sure that a twenty thousand Black march in a town of 4000 ( about 80% white to 20 % black , as reported ) is going to fix a problem or ease tensions ?

Dam shame we just can't " Fix the problem , not the blame " ??

Good for you, we'll all wait excitedly for your verdict. The thing is, I wasn't commenting on the case, I was commenting on Brownbuck's statement.

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Having a tree for only white people to sit under is stupid...

Beating up a kid because of his race is stupid...

Hanging nooses from a tree is stupid...

Retaliatory beating of people up is stupid...

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You forgot one:

Letting Fat Albert the opportunist be your pied piper is stupid.

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I guess the thing that disturbs me most about this case is the underlying racism in this town (and I fear, many towns still in the US).

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Racial equality ( or so called racial equality ) has been around for what 40 or 50 years ? Not much has changed in small town America especially in the south where racial lines are in large part still there . I lived in Georgia for a while in the late 80's and there was a big to do about Forsythe County if I remember where they claimed no black person has lived since the end of the Civil War . Speaking on what I personally know to be true in parts of West Virginia ( it boggles the mind what goes on ) there is open and outright racism and that is just the way it is sad to say and things like this go on every day.

You ought to here what the folks in those small towns in northern Canada have to say about racial equality. It's worse than what we're reading about here.

Two arrested in noose incident near Jena, LouisianaStory Highlights
Police report: A 16-year-old arrested in noose incident says his family's in KKK

Driver, 18, charged with DUI, inciting to riot, contributing to delinquency of minor

Nooses were hanging from back of pickup in Alexandria, Louisiana

Alexandria a staging area for Thursday protest march in nearby Jena

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ALEXANDRIA, Louisiana (CNN) -- A Louisiana city that hosted many of the "Jena 6" protesters Thursday became the site of a racially charged incident of its own.


A photo taken by I-Reporter Casanova Love shows a noose hanging from a pickup in Alexandria, Louisiana.

Authorities in Alexandria, less than 40 miles southwest of Jena, arrested two people who were driving a red pickup Thursday night with two nooses hanging off the back, repeatedly passing groups of demonstrators who were waiting for buses back to their home states.

The marchers had taken part in the huge protests in Jena that accused authorities there of injustice in the handling of racially charged cases -- including the hanging of nooses in a tree after a group of black students sat in an area where traditionally only white students sat.

The driver of the red truck, whom Alexandria police identified as Jeremiah Munsen, 18, was charged with contributing to the delinquency of a minor -- a reference to the 16-year-old passenger. Munsen also was charged with driving while intoxicated and inciting to riot, according to the police report.

As officials were questioning the driver, he said he had an unloaded rifle in the back of the truck, which police found. They also found a set of brass knuckles in a cup holder on the dashboard, the police report said. Watch what police found on the truck »

The passenger told police he and his family are in the Ku Klux Klan and that he had KKK tattooed on his chest, the police report said. He also said that he tied the nooses and that the brass knuckles belonged to him, the report said.

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The report, filed by Officer F.R. Drewett, said he and another officer were standing with protesters awaiting their bus back to Nashville, Tennessee, when one of the group told him about a truck driving with nooses hanging off the back.

The truck was circling around town, repeatedly driving past groups of demonstrators, the report said. The officers pulled the pickup over and arrested two after searching the vehicle.

At least one of the nooses was made out of an extension cord, according to the police report.

The driver and passenger are white, according to the police report.

An entry in the report lists "Bias Motive: Racial Anti-Black."

Alexandria Mayor Jacques Roy said those involved were "from around Jena" and not from the same parish as his city. See where the incident occurred »

Racism is no greater in the south than any other part of the country.

It is just used as the place to point because it is easier to point elsewhere then it is to point next door.

These homogenized communities many want to think exist are far and few between. Really...they are pretty much non-existent.

It is just as easy to talk about Boston or Bosie....even Cleveland.

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Racism is no greater in the south than any other part of the country.

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Maybe I just had the misfortune of being in some places down south that hadn't been pacified yet from The War of Northern Agression or as we call it up here The Civil War.