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Trump openly admitted on live TV to doing the thing he's accused of in the impeachment inquiry

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-openly-admitted-live-tv-155049415.html

I forgot trump said this a while back. Trump pretty mich tells us what crimes he plans on committing in the future.

But if you call your shot, is it really a crime? I mean c'mon.


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Charges of Ukrainian Meddling? A Russian Operation, U.S. Intelligence Says

Moscow has run a yearslong operation to blame Ukraine for its own 2016 election interference. Republicans have used similar talking points to defend President Trump in impeachment proceedings.

WASHINGTON — Republicans have sought for weeks amid the impeachment inquiry to shift attention to President Trump’s demands that Ukraine investigate any 2016 election meddling, defending it as a legitimate concern while Democrats accuse Mr. Trump of pursuing fringe theories for his benefit.

The Republican defense of Mr. Trump became central to the impeachment proceedings when Fiona Hill, a respected Russia scholar and former senior White House official, added a harsh critique during testimony on Thursday. She told some of Mr. Trump’s fiercest defenders in Congress that they were repeating “a fictional narrative.” She said that it likely came from a disinformation campaign by Russian security services, which also propagated it.

In a briefing that closely aligned with Dr. Hill’s testimony, American intelligence officials informed senators and their aides in recent weeks that Russia had engaged in a yearslong campaign to essentially frame Ukraine as responsible for Moscow’s own hacking of the 2016 election, according to three American officials. The briefing came as Republicans stepped up their defenses of Mr. Trump in the Ukraine affair.

The revelations demonstrate Russia’s persistence in trying to sow discord among its adversaries — and show that the Kremlin apparently succeeded, as unfounded claims about Ukrainian interference seeped into Republican talking points. American intelligence agencies believe Moscow is likely to redouble its efforts as the 2020 presidential campaign intensifies. The classified briefing for senators also focused on Russia’s evolving influence tactics, including its growing ability to better disguise operations.

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Russia has engaged in a “long pattern of deflection” to pin blame for its malevolent acts on other countries, Dr. Hill said, not least Ukraine, a former Soviet republic. Since Ukraine won independence in 1991, Russia has tried to reassert influence there, meddling in its politics, maligning pro-Western leaders and accusing Ukrainian critics of Moscow of fascist leanings.

“The Russians have a particular vested interest in putting Ukraine, Ukrainian leaders in a very bad light,” she told lawmakers.

But the campaign by Russian intelligence in recent years has been even more complex as Moscow tries not only to undermine the government in Kyiv but also to use a disinformation campaign there to influence the American political debate.

The accusations of a Ukrainian influence campaign center on actions by a handful of Ukrainians who openly criticized or sought to damage Mr. Trump’s candidacy in 2016. They were scattershot efforts that were far from a replica of Moscow’s interference, when President Vladimir V. Putin ordered military and intelligence operatives to mount a broad campaign to sabotage the American election. The Russians in 2016 conducted covert operations to hack Democratic computers and to use social media to exploit divisions among Americans.

This time, Russian intelligence operatives deployed a network of agents to blame Ukraine for its 2016 interference. Starting at least in 2017, the operatives peddled a mixture of now-debunked conspiracy theories along with established facts to leave an impression that the government in Kyiv, not Moscow, was responsible for the hackings of Democrats and its other interference efforts in 2016, senior intelligence officials said.

The Russian intelligence officers conveyed the information to prominent Russians and Ukrainians who then used a range of intermediaries, like oligarchs, businessmen and their associates, to pass the material to American political figures and even some journalists, who were likely unaware of its origin, the officials said.

That muddy brew worked its way into American information ecosystems, sloshing around until parts of it reached Mr. Trump, who has also spoken with Mr. Putin about allegations of Ukrainian interference. Mr. Trump also brought up the assertions of Ukrainian meddling in his July 25 call with President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine, which is at the heart of the impeachment inquiry into whether he abused his power by asking for a public commitment to investigations he stood to gain from personally.

Mr. Trump referred elliptically to allegations that Ukraine meddled in the 2016 election and brought up a related conspiracy theory. Asking Mr. Zelensky to “do us a favor,” Mr. Trump added, “I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine.”

Russia’s operation to blame Ukraine has become more relevant as Republicans have tried to focus public debate during the impeachment inquiry on any Ukrainian role in the 2016 campaign, American officials said.

Republicans have denounced any suggestion that their concerns about Ukrainian meddling are without merit or that they are ignoring Russia’s broader interference. “Not a single Republican member of this committee said Russia did not meddle in the 2016 elections,” Representative Elise Stefanik, Republican of New York, said Thursday.

Indeed, Ms. Stefanik and her Republican colleagues on the Democratic-led House Intelligence Committee, which is conducting the impeachment hearing, have also steered clear of the fringe notion that Mr. Trump mentioned to Mr. Zelensky, which is pushed by Russian intelligence: the so-called CrowdStrike server conspiracy theory, which falsely suggests Ukraine, not Russia, was behind the breach of Democratic operatives’ servers.

Mr. Trump repeated the baseless claim on Friday in an interview with “Fox & Friends,” laying out the narrative and doubling down after a host gently pressed him on whether he was sure of one aspect of the debunked theory, that the F.B.I. gave a Democratic server to what Mr. Trump had inaccurately described as a Ukrainian-owned company.

“That is what the word is,” Mr. Trump replied.

Some Republicans have also focused on Hunter Biden, raising questions about whether his hiring by the Ukrainian energy company Burisma was corrupt. Burisma hired Mr. Biden while his father, former Vice President Joseph Biden Jr., a potential rival of Mr. Trump’s in the 2020 election, was leading the Obama administration’s Ukraine policy. On the July 25 call, Mr. Trump also demanded Mr. Zelensky investigate Burisma and Hunter Biden.

Moscow has long used its intelligence agencies and propaganda machine to muddy the waters of public debate, casting doubts over established facts. In her testimony, Dr. Hill noted Russia’s pattern of trying to blame other countries for its own actions, like the attempted poisoning last year of a former Russian intelligence officer or the downing of a passenger jet over Ukraine in 2014. Moscow’s goal is to cast doubt on established facts, said current and former officials.

“The strategy is simply to create the impression that it is not really possible to know who was really behind it,” said Laura Rosenberger, the director of the Alliance for Defending Democracy, which tracks Russian disinformation efforts.

Although American intelligence agencies have made no formal classified assessment about the Russian disinformation campaign against Ukraine, officials at several of the agencies have broadly agreed for some time that Russian intelligence services have embraced tactics to shift responsibility for the 2016 interference campaign away from themselves, officials said.

Russia has relentlessly tried to deflect attention since the allegations of its interference campaign in the 2016 election first surfaced, one official said.

Mr. Putin began publicly pushing false theories of Ukrainian interference in the early months of 2017 to deflect responsibility from Russia, said Senator Angus King, independent of Maine and a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, who declined to answer questions about the briefing.

“These people are pros at this,” said Mr. King, who caucuses with the Democrats. “The Soviet Union used disinformation for 70 years. This is nothing new. Vladimir Putin is a former K.G.B. agent. He is trained in deception. This is his stock and trade and he is doing it well.”

During a news conference in February 2017, Mr. Putin accused the Ukrainian government of supporting Hillary Clinton during the previous American election and funding her candidacy with friendly oligarchs.

It is not clear when American intelligence agencies learned about Moscow’s campaign or when precisely it began.

Russian intelligence officers aimed part of their operation at prompting the Ukrainian authorities to investigate the allegations that people in Ukraine tried to tamper with the 2016 American election and to shut down inquiries into corruption by pro-Russian politicians in Ukraine, according to a former official.

One target was the leak of a secret ledger disclosed by a Ukrainian law enforcement agency that appeared to show that Paul Manafort, Mr. Trump’s onetime campaign chairman, had taken illicit payments from Ukrainian politicians who were close to Moscow. He was forced to step down from the Trump campaign after the ledger became public in August 2016, and the Russians have since been eager to cast doubt on its authenticity, the former official said.

Intelligence officials believe that one of the people the Kremlin relied on to spread disinformation about Ukrainian interference was Oleg V. Deripaska, a Russian oligarch who had ties to Mr. Manafort. After his ouster from the campaign, Mr. Manafort told his former deputy later in 2016 that Ukrainians, not Russians, stole Democratic emails. Mr. Deripaska has broadly denied any role in election meddling.

“There is a long history of Russians putting out fake information,” said Marc Polymeropoulos, a former senior C.I.A. official. “Now they are trying to put out theories that they think are damaging to the United States.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/22/us/politics/ukraine-russia-interference.html

Any GOPer including Trump, Congress, and those on this board that spread this propaganda are carrying Putin's message for him and are traitors IMHO.

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C'mon dude. Based on your criteria I need to see you start spamming the Boards with Obama Love. He outperforms Trump in every single category you said was a priority ... AND he was reducing the deficit.

I know you Like you some Trump ... you gotta be in LOVE over Obama. Admit it.


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Incidentally how does one grill another person when one is standing alone on a stage?


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I know you Like you some Trump ... you gotta be in LOVE over Obama. Admit it.


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Could't do that to Trump. Creamsicle45's© ego is already too fragile. He'd melt from the residual heat of 40's time spent with "Chocolate Thunder."

Can you imagine? O start singin' some Al Green... Trump get a contact from 40's high.

mmmph.

Ain't nothin' more seductive than a smooth brotha who knows how to work his game. Of course, I'm speaking from experience. It takes skill, practice and inspiration to elevate craft into Art.

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So it seems Lev Parnas is willing to testify before Congress that Devin Nunes traveled to Europe to meet with Shokin to dig up dirt on Biden and other dems. Seems like Nunes is a fact witness now. Seems like Putin found a weakness in America to exploit. The republican party

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Incidentally how does one grill another person when one is standing alone on a stage?


Refs about to find out on Sunday.

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Ironic, isn't it?
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So that wasn't flop sweat I saw on Nunes' forehead... it was actually 'perp sweat.' Even better. Dude has always been a tool. Folks in his own district hate him almost as much as KY hates Moscow Mitch.


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New Documents Show Contact Between Mike Pompeo And Rudy Giuliani On Ukraine



Docs: https://www.americanoversight.org/state-department-releases-ukraine-documents-to-american-oversight


New details In Lev Parnas’ Reported Effort To Help Devin Nunes



Devin was just looking for some place to hide from his cow...


US Intel Briefed Senators That Ukraine Theory Is Russian Op: NYT



hmmm... Senators briefed... This relates to the article I posted a few posts above.


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Bolton is going to bring it to Trump on Trump's turf. lmao

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This new information comes at a time when many thought we knew what went on..now obviously, we have just started another chapter.


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Giuliani Crony Can Detail Nunes' Meeting With Ex-Ukraine Official To Get Biden Dirt: Report

https://news.yahoo.com/rudy-giuliani-lev-parnas-devin-nunes-joe-biden-052546744.html

The Dems need to extend this longer in the house, and Force these clowns to testify. The republicans controlled senate will not be doing their jobs correctly, as they view themselves as defense lawyers for trump.

Giuliani, Bolton, Mulvaney, Pompey, pence, and trump all need to testify.


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I agree - and why isn't there any move to release the full un-redacted and unmolested transcript of the calls ???


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Putting aside 40's adoration of Obama for outperforming Trump on all of 40'd key metrics .... anyone see this?

https://crooksandliars.com/2019/11/dirty-devin-ranking-republican-nunes-isnt

So Nunes was right every morning when he wasted his time saying this process was a farce. . . . he was right. It's a farce because Nunes has had his dirty grubby hands in the cookie jar and basically doing Putin's bidding from the start. How totally fkd up are the GOP? I have to think that Nunes should have disclosed this contact AND recused himself. Unreal.


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'I don't know him': The many times Donald Trump's acquaintances suddenly became strangers

https://news.yahoo.com/dont-know-him-many-times-163148819.html


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Keep dreaming Demos...Your Coup de'tat is going to end up backfiring on you as usual by the "legal" voters of the U.S.

Nothing but hearsay...It is a dark day in America when a political party and their corrupt media try to undo a duly elected President just because he isn't part of the establishment swamp.

All of these charges form the Mueller report to this Ukrainian hoax is a new low. Nothing is there. You and your corrupt media are trying to make some of this sh&t stick to the wall. Sadly, nothing has. But just because you wish these fantasies to be true, you continue with your high hopes....

In the end, you have no one to even challenge Trump at the voting box, so you try the Coup. Very sad days indeed.

You will all be eternal Wile E. Coyote's all.....Viva Trump!!!



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You say 'legal' as if dem votes are not legal. You and your traitorous ilk are the problem. Nothing worse than a traitor. Nothing.

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Nothing but hearsay...


Yep - nothing but credible witnesses telling the world what they witnessed and heard. 1st hand accounts.... Hearsay. notallthere


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House Armed Services Committee Chairman: Ethics investigation into Nunes 'likely'

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/47179...ion-into-nunes#

Boy, republicans are really quiet about this one. Nunes caught working with guys like this to dig up dirt on Biden.

Yikes.


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I see the Dems are continuing with their smear campaigns.

House Armed Services Committee Chairman Adam Smith (D-Wash.) said Saturday that top House Intelligence Committee Republican Devin Nunes (Calif.) should face an ethics probe...

Nunes told Breitbart that the accusation was "demonstrably false" and has threatened legal action.

When will you realize your leadership has lost all credibility through these actions?

-Trump was a Russian agent! Impeach! FALSE
-Trump was a Traitor! Impeach! FALSE
-Trump is mentally unstable! Impeach! FALSE
-Kavanaugh was a rapist pimp in college! FALSE
-Nunes is....
-Giuliani is....
-Barr is....

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#unhinged


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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING


-Trump was a Russian agent! Impeach! FALSE
-Trump was a Traitor! Impeach! FALSE
-Trump is mentally unstable! Impeach! FALSE
-Kavanaugh was a rapist pimp in college! FALSE
-Obama did better than Trump on all of my Key Metrics TRUE
-Nunes is....
-Giuliani is....
-Barr is....


Fixed it for you.

Yeah - your a little unhinged recently. Maybe the realization that what you posted as your top priorities, Obama outperforms Trump on every issue? . . .


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We simply have a KGB agency (Mass Media) pimping for the Communist Democrats.

They can say anything and the KGB/Mass Media refuses to report in an objective fashion.

We actually have a Communist (Not a Democratic) party heading the House of Representatives.

And these peeps here on this board approve it.

God Save us from the Swamp!

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We all knew the Press leaned Left for years now but Trump brought them out for all to see.

They don't even try to be journalists anymore.

Americans know propaganda when they see it.

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
We all knew the Press leaned Left for years now but Trump brought them out for all to see.

They don't even try to be journalists anymore.

Americans know propaganda when they see it.


Says the Faux news Brietbart guy. Hilarious.


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Originally Posted By: SuperBrown
We simply have a KGB agency (Mass Media) pimping for the Communist Democrats.

They can say anything and the KGB/Mass Media refuses to report in an objective fashion.

We actually have a Communist (Not a Democratic) party heading the House of Representatives.

And these peeps here on this board approve it.

God Save us from the Swamp!


Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
We all knew the Press leaned Left for years now but Trump brought them out for all to see.

They don't even try to be journalists anymore.

Americans know propaganda when they see it.



This is what desperation looks like. The modern face of the Republican party... LMAO

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Originally Posted By: SuperBrown
We simply have a KGB agency (Mass Media) pimping for the Communist Democrats.

They can say anything and the KGB/Mass Media refuses to report in an objective fashion.

We actually have a Communist (Not a Democratic) party heading the House of Representatives.

And these peeps here on this board approve it.

God Save us from the Swamp!





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Americans do.
Trump humpers don't.


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Originally Posted By: SuperBrown
We simply have a KGB agency (Mass Media) pimping for the Communist Democrats.

They can say anything and the KGB/Mass Media refuses to report in an objective fashion.

We actually have a Communist (Not a Democratic) party heading the House of Representatives.

And these peeps here on this board approve it.

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Spoken like a true leftist.

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sorry... couldn't hear you.
Your voice was really muffled.


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Talking with your head up your ass is the definition of a GOPer echo chamber. smh

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sorry... couldn't hear you.
Your voice was really muffled.

Nice. Lol


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Nunes threatens to take CNN, Daily Beast to court over story about meeting with Ukrainian prosecutor

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/471838-nunes-threatens-to-take-cnn-daily-beast-to-court#

Bartiromo asked Nunes whether he met with Shokin, to which the California representative replied that he wants “to answer all of these questions” but “can’t compete by trying to debate this out with the public media when 90 percent of the media are totally corrupt.”

“I'm not going to sit here and try to compete against the media that I have no chance of winning this,” he said. “I will win in court and they'll have a chance to cooperate and they'll have to show how they work with somebody who has been indicted which is likely conspiring to obstruct justice."

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So that’s a yes.


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Charges of Ukrainian Meddling? A Russian Operation, U.S. Intelligence Says

https://news.yahoo.com/charges-ukrainian-meddling-russian-operation-201544356.html

First, I fully believe that trump and his cult knew this was false, and ran with it anyway cause they knew their supporters would believe it.

What would be even more pathetic is if they actually believed it. Because they committed crimes in order to try and prove something that wasn’t true to begin with.

The trump administration keeps finding ways to be the most corrupt administration in US history.


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TOTAL YARDS BROWNS 203 DOLPHINS 14


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That pretty much describes the Democrats vs republicans right now.


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And now we hear about 100's of emails (no not Hilary's!) concerning reverse engineering a legal explanation for withholding aid. Can't make this chit up.


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Yep.

They held the funds then tried to come up with reasons after.

Which translates to them not having any good reason to withhold the aid.


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Which translates to them not having any good reason to withhold the aid.


No they had a very 'good' and specific reason ... they wanted Ukraine to go on TV and announce an investigation into Biden. Trouble is that's coercion and blackmail.


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