DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Browns have released DE Chris Smith

The Browns will pay his salary this year. That is in the CBA. Smith will get all of the money he had coming this year.

I don't get your argument here. Should we keep him on the roster just to do so?

Why? We paid him, and now get a chance to looks another player. That's the way the NFL works.

Plainly speaking, there is a large hole in your assumptions, by assuming Smith to be part of that future plan. Givin his age alone, it is imo a far stretch to assume that he was.

Now we know that is a stawman assumption.

Given our record, it is not uncommon to see movement to the backend of our roster, with the realization that next year starts today.

We've signed a LOT of FA's. You're just so silly!

Are we certain he didn't request it?

Then IR him with a bad heart, and at least pay him out through season's end. This just wreaks of cold, ruthless "business decisions". Like others have mentioned, it's pretty hard to build any sort of team chemistry or culture if you're just churning the roster non-stop.

Where's Dee Haslam's skull cap with #50 on it?

Way to change the subject. You said we had trouble signing FA's. That's simply not true. But that's okay, now that you are wrong just change what you said. It's what I expect.

Landry. Did we trade for or sign Richardson?

Where did you read I said anything about future plans? Your Assuming what I meant.

1 roster spot on a team not going anywhere is not going to hurt the team. ESPECIALLY when that roster spot would be used to SHOW the rest of the guys that the organization had your back, the organization was supporting you, the organization cared about you.

And you guys wonder why its hard to get FA to come here, or resign the decent players we do have.

We traded for landry, then extended him.

We signed Richardson

"Why not try to build CHEMISTRY for NEXT YEAR???"

Correct.

The "big names" we signed in FA of 2018 were Chris Hubbard, Carlos Hyde, Greg Robinson & TJ Carrie. Carrie and Hubbard were the most alarming signings as they combined for $30.6M in guaranteed dollars.

In 2019, the "big names" were Hunt and Richardson.

I prefer the 2019 route in FA than the 2018 route re: spending. But round and round we go.

For 1, the chances the guy they signed being on the team next year is slim to none. Two, the players were behind Smith, and all reports were they supported him.

If you are a player in the league, on another team - and you hear that the Browns after saying they support Smith with his tragedy, now release him weeks later, are you not going to think twice about that?

If you are a player, in the CURRENT locker room, do you really want to be on a team that cuts ties with someone in a hardship so easily? I wouldn't. Actions matter, and this speaks volumes.

We made a bad move as an organization. We look horrible in the eyes of other players and media for this move. It was cold, callus, and unflattering of our organization. Was it a good business move, probably yeah. Doesn't mean it was a good move.

I am disappointed in my team. Its values are sunk to nothing IMO.

What is going on in Berea?

This team is a rudderless ship.

I don't know that I'd use the term 'chump', but I agree with the premise.
We released our bottom DE. If not for the heartstrings ploy that plays into it, this wouldn't be more than a blip. People are allowing sentimentality play a factor in things and it has no place there at all.

They all hate how corporate America operates. They sound like a bunch of socialists.

J/c

In terms of FA signings, Hubbard was a bad one (thank Haley for that one), especially when we coulda just still had Schwartz

Old argument as well...Schwartz turned down our better offer, but they shopped our offer. I know you and others disagree, but I am very sure none of you are in sales, but once you make the best offer and people shop it for a dime more and don't get it, you move on and tell them to pound rock salt in to granulated salt.

I am not going to be a chump even if you are.


I say that with respect. In reality I don't think you are a chump except in this line of thinking which is narrow.

Agree, but were not talking sales, were talking football. We told him to take a hike, while we had 0 answer to replace him afterward, years later now. We cut off our nose to spite our face.

We aren't talking sales, but they are. They are selling their team and making offers. End of story.

Sales run the world my friend. If you knew you made the best offer, which we knew we did once they kept shopping, and then came back, why wouldn't you pull the offer unless you are a punk?


I am not calling you a punk, I am just saying.


I would have done the same thing. They took the attitude we didn't offer enough. When they came back, they just told me I offered too much.

That guy never wanted to sign with us. He was playing with us. Screw him