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Trump's still president, Iran blinked, stocks are soaring – Wrong again, Chicken Littles.

Is there any chance in the near future the Dems might quit screwing around and quit burning America's time and money? I knew 6 months ago Sdhiff and the other criminals were going to Impeach Trump and the Republicans would throw it out at a cost of ??????.

You and Moscow Mitch both knew .... and that's because you aren't interested in facts and truth - just the distortion and abuse of power to keep Trump in the WH regardless.

Your Lil boy help cause a passenger plane to be shot out of the sky killing hundreds of innocent civilians.

But go ahead and laugh. Pfft the trump era.

Maybe after the GOPers quit screwing around with our tax dollars by killing Iranians and withholding military aid to the Ukrainians.

You mean right after they bombed our military base in Iraq? Yes, Trump blinked.

OK lefty, Trump caused Iran to shoot down that plane. Did he also sell them the Russian missil?

What color is the sky in your world.

Iran's lil helper

Wonder if your graphic or the post where you found it came from a Russian Bot. They love to spread division and misinformation - and boy oh boy oh boy you LOVE to lap it up.

You must have missed this:

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Your Lil boy help cause a passenger plane to be shot out of the sky killing hundreds of innocent civilians.

You must have missed this:



Like I said - Fake news. But we know facts don't matter to you. Carry on.

https://www.wired.com/story/ben-garrison-alt-right-cartoonist/

Some have figured out why Nancy has been sitting on the impeachment.

She has slowed the process to the point that as the Iowa caucuses approach, Biden will be out shaking hands while Bernie is stuck in a chair in Washington as the Senate trial begins.

Dem Elites hate Bernie. I hear he is leading.
But not for long if they can help it.

She has gotten moderate Senate Republicans to begin discussing witnesses appearing and given enough time for even more evidence to come to the surface. Of course Republicans want to cover it all up. But the American people are figuring that out. She knew that would happen given time.

I wouldn't vote for Bernie if you paid me, a lot.

But It is un-American to screw him like they did the last time.

Good luck, maybe see you at the big show.

Incomplete Impeachment thanks to your genius leader Pelosi!!!

Incomplete Impeachment

Incomplete Impeachment

You have the word incomplete down pat don't you?

Do you mean incomplete like Trump's wall? Like his promise that Mexico would pay for it? To bring coal back maybe? Raising the GDP by 4% a year?

Or maybe it's simply a word that appeared on your report card a lot.

Trump administration announces completion of 100 miles of border wall construction

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-ad...ory?id=68200934

In spite of everyone's efforts to stop him, he keeps adding to it.

You mean old wall that has been replaced. That's how you guys work though. You either outright lie or you use the art of deception.

Donna, Texas — Nearly three years after President Trump took office, work is finally underway on one of his key campaign promises. CBS News was able to get access to the locations where new border wall is being constructed along the 2,000-mile-long southern border.

In rural south Texas, construction crews are pushing to finish an 8-mile stretch of border wall in the town of Donna. The total cost is about $167 million.......

West of Donna, CBS News saw a second 3-mile stretch of wall that is also being built. Nearly $10 billion has been diverted from government agencies for wall funding. That's a bill U.S. taxpayers, not Mexico, are footing.

Border Patrol Sector Chief Rodolfo Karisch said it's just a start. "We're looking at about 80 to 90 miles over the next year to year and a half," he said. But it won't all be connected.

At least 78 miles of existing wall has been replaced along the southern border since 2017. Mr. Trump has called these refurbished walls unclimbable. But a video posted on social media shows two men scaling a replaced portion of the wall in California.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-borde...ump-2019-12-04/

Try again....

U.S. Unauthorized Immigrant Total Dips to Lowest Level in a Decade

https://www.pewresearch.org/hispanic/201...el-in-a-decade/

In spite of everyone's efforts to stop him, he keeps getting it done!

Yet at the same time in his presidency, Obama had deported more illegals than Trump has.

GOP leadership: There aren't 51 votes to dismiss Trump articles of impeachment

Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.) told reporters on Monday that the Senate Republican caucus doesn't have the votes to dismiss the articles of impeachment against President Trump, who endorsed an "outright dismissal" over the weekend.

"I think our members generally are not interested in a motion to dismiss. ... Certainly there aren't 51 votes for a motion to dismiss," Blunt, the No. 4 Senate Republican, told reporters after a closed-door leadership meeting.

Republicans have warned for months that they will not dismiss the two articles of impeachment against Trump, predicting a trial will end with votes on either acquitting or convicting him.

But Trump revived talk of trying to dismiss the articles over the weekend, saying the Senate was "giving credence" to the allegations against him by having a trial.

"Many believe that by the Senate giving credence to a trial based on the no evidence, no crime, read the transcripts, 'no pressure' Impeachment Hoax, rather than an outright dismissal, it gives the partisan Democrat Witch Hunt credibility that it otherwise does not have. I agree!" Trump tweeted on Sunday.

Dismissing the articles of impeachment would require 51 votes. Because no Democrats would support the effort, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) could afford to lose only two GOP senators and still successfully dismiss the articles.

Multiple Republicans, including Sens. Susan Collins (Maine) and Rob Portman (Ohio), have indicated they would oppose a motion to dismiss, arguing that both Trump's legal team and House impeachment managers should be able to make their case.

The resolution on the Clinton impeachment trial rules in the 1990s had a motion to dismiss built into it. The motion, made after opening arguments and questions from senators, was ultimately unsuccessful.

Republicans are still crafting the rules resolution for the Trump trial, but some GOP senators have suggested they will not include a specific motion to dismiss in the resolution. That would not, according to aides and senators, prevent a senator from trying to make a motion to dismiss during the trial.

“If 51 senators wanted to have that vote, we could have it at some point. I don’t believe it’s going to be baked into the underlying resolution,” Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), an adviser to McConnell, told The Hill.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4780...-of-impeachment

Giuliani pal Lev Parnas hands over docs, phones to feds

Rudy Giuliani pal Lev Parnas, who was indicted for plotting to violate US campaign finance laws, gave House impeachment probers photos, text messages and thousands of pages of documents, his lawyer said Monday.

Joseph Bondy, Parnas’ attorney, went to Washington, DC, over the weekend to hand-deliver the contents of an iPhone 11 — which like the other evidence in his case had been placed under a protected order by a federal judge — to Democratic staffers on the House Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, the lawyer disclosed on Twitter.

Parnas has also handed over documents, recordings, photos, text messages on the encrypted messaging application WhatsApp, and materials from a Samsung phone — and was expected to share material from two other devices, an iPad and another iPhone.

“Earlier this morning, the Court granted our request for a second modification of the protective order. We have conveyed the contents of Lev Parnas’ Samsung phone to HPSCI, and will be working to provide the other materials as soon as possible. #LetLevSpeak #LevRemembers,” Bondy wrote.

Parnas wants to testify in the hopes of more lenient treatment in his own case, in which he allegedly tried to steer foreign cash into US elections and hide the source.

“After our trip to DC, we worked through the night providing a trove of Lev Parnas’ WhatsApp messages, text messages & images — not under protective order— to #HPSCI, detailing interactions with a number of individuals relevant to the impeachment inquiry. #LetLevSpeak #LevRemembers,”Bondy said in a second tweet, which was accompanied by a photo of a grinning Parnas and Trump giving the thumbs-up sign.

Parnas is under pressure by federal prosecutors who have said they will likely file additional criminal charges against him.

Prosecutors with the US attorney’s office for the Southern District of New York seized more than a dozen electronic devices, including cell phones, laptops and a hard drive from Parnas and his home when he and his associate Igor Fruman were arrested on Oct. 9 at Dulles International airport with one-way tickets to Austria.

The Soviet-born Parnas, Fruman and two others were charged with funneling foreign money into US elections and citing a bogus donor to hide the source of the cash. All four have pleaded not guilty.

House investigators want to know more about Parnas and Fruman, another Soviet-born businessman, as part of the impeachment inquiry into President Trump.

The pair helped Giuliani force the ouster of former Ukraine ambassador Marie Yovanovitch and arrange sit-downs for Giuliani with Ukrainian officials as part of the former mayor’s effort to dig up dirt on Trump rival Joe Biden and his son Hunter.

Since late last month prosecutors have begun turning over Parnas’ materials extracted from the devices, which were sent to the FBI’s lab in Quantico, Virginia, to be analyzed.

Bondy also called for Attorney General William Barr to recuse himself from the criminal investigation “so that Lev can be properly evaluated as a witness in the impeachment inquiry.”

The calls likely included several placed on Parnas’ phone to Rep. Devin Nunes, the House Intelligence Committee’s ranking GOP member.

The feds are also investigating Giuliani in relation to Parnas and Fruman, a development that led Trump’s personal lawyer to call them “a–holes.”

https://nypost.com/2020/01/13/giuliani-pal-lev-parnas-hands-over-docs-phones-to-feds/

Well this should be interesting.

Russians Hacked Ukrainian Gas Company at Center of Impeachment

With President Trump facing an impeachment trial over his efforts to pressure Ukraine to investigate former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. and his son Hunter Biden, Russian military hackers have been boring into the Ukrainian gas company at the center of the affair, according to security experts.

The hacking attempts against Burisma, the Ukrainian gas company on whose board Hunter Biden served, began in early November, as talk of the Bidens, Ukraine and impeachment was dominating the news in the United States.

It is not yet clear what the hackers found, or precisely what they were searching for. But the experts say the timing and scale of the attacks suggest that the Russians could be searching for potentially embarrassing material on the Bidens — the same kind of information that Mr. Trump wanted from Ukraine when he pressed for an investigation of the Bidens and Burisma, setting off a chain of events that led to his impeachment.

The Russian tactics are strikingly similar to what American intelligence agencies say was Russia’s hacking of emails from Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman and the Democratic National Committee during the 2016 presidential campaign. In that case, once they had the emails, the Russians used trolls to spread and spin the material, and built an echo chamber to widen its effect.

Then, as now, the Russian hackers from a military intelligence unit known formerly as the G.R.U., and to private researchers by the alias “Fancy Bear,” used so-called phishing emails that appear designed to steal usernames and passwords, according to Area 1, the Silicon Valley security firm that detected the hacking. In this instance, the hackers set up fake websites that mimicked sign-in pages of Burisma subsidiaries, and have been blasting Burisma employees with emails meant to look like they are coming from inside the company.

The hackers fooled some of them into handing over their login credentials, and managed to get inside one of Burisma’s servers, Area 1 said.

“The attacks were successful,” said Oren Falkowitz, a co-founder of Area 1, who previously served at the National Security Agency. Mr. Falkowitz’s firm maintains a network of sensors on web servers around the globe — many known to be used by state-sponsored hackers — which gives the firm a front-row seat to phishing attacks, and allows them to block attacks on their customers.

“The timing of the Russian campaign mirrors the G.R.U. hacks we saw in 2016 against the D.N.C. and John Podesta,” the Clinton campaign chairman, Mr. Falkowitz said. “Once again, they are stealing email credentials, in what we can only assume is a repeat of Russian interference in the last election.”

The Justice Department indicted seven officers from the same military intelligence unit in 2018.

The Russian attacks on Burisma appear to be running parallel to an effort by Russian spies in Ukraine to dig up information in the analog world that could embarrass the Bidens, according to an American security official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive intelligence. The spies, the official said, are trying to penetrate Burisma and working sources in the Ukrainian government in search of emails, financial records and legal documents.

Neither the Russian government nor Burisma responded to requests for comment.

American officials are warning that the Russians have grown stealthier since 2016, and are again seeking to steal and spread damaging information and target vulnerable election systems ahead of the 2020 election.

In the same vein, Russia has been working since the early days of Mr. Trump’s presidency to turn the focus away from its own election interference in 2016 by seeding conspiracy theories about Ukrainian meddling and Democratic complicity.

The result has been a muddy brew of conspiracy theories that mix facts, like the handful of Ukrainians who openly criticized Mr. Trump’s candidacy, with discredited claims that the D.N.C.’s email server is in Ukraine and that Mr. Biden, as vice president, had corrupt dealings with Ukrainian officials to protect his son. Spread by bots and trolls on social media, and by Russian intelligence officers, the claims resonated with Mr. Trump, who views talk of Russian interference as an attack on his legitimacy.

With Mr. Biden’s emergence as a front-runner for the Democratic nomination last spring, the president latched on to the corruption allegations, and asked that Ukraine investigate the Bidens on his July 25 call with President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine. The call became central to Mr. Trump’s impeachment last month.

The Biden campaign sought to cast the Russian effort to hack Burisma as an indication of Mr. Biden’s political strength, and to highlight Mr. Trump’s apparent willingness to let foreign powers boost his political fortunes.

“Donald Trump tried to coerce Ukraine into lying about Joe Biden and a major bipartisan, international anti-corruption victory because he recognized that he can’t beat the vice president,” said Andrew Bates, a spokesman for the Biden campaign.

“Now we know that Vladimir Putin also sees Joe Biden as a threat,” Mr. Bates added. “Any American president who had not repeatedly encouraged foreign interventions of this kind would immediately condemn this attack on the sovereignty of our elections.”

The corruption allegations hinge on Hunter Biden’s work on the Burisma board. The company hired Mr. Biden while his father was vice president and leading the Obama administration’s Ukraine policy, including a successful push to have Ukraine’s top prosecutor fired for corruption. The effort was backed by European allies.

The story has since been recast by Mr. Trump and some of his staunchest defenders, who say Mr. Biden pushed out the prosecutor because Burisma was under investigation and his son could be implicated. Rudolph W. Giuliani, acting in what he says was his capacity as Mr. Trump’s personal lawyer, has personally taken up investigating the Bidens and Burisma, and now regularly claims to have uncovered clear-cut evidence of wrongdoing.

The evidence, though, has yet to emerge, and now the Russians appear to have joined the hunt.

Area 1 researchers discovered a G.R.U. phishing campaign on Ukrainian companies on New Year’s Eve. A week later, Area 1 determined what the Ukrainian targets had in common: They were all subsidiaries of Burisma Holdings, the company at the center of Mr. Trump’s impeachment. Among the Burisma subsidiaries phished were KUB-Gas, Aldea, Esko-Pivnich, Nadragas, Tehnocom-Service and Pari. The targets also included Kvartal 95, a Ukrainian television production company founded by Mr. Zelensky. The phishing attack on Kvartal 95 appears to have been aimed at digging up email correspondence for the company’s chief, Ivan Bakanov, whom Mr. Zelensky appointed as the head of Ukraine’s Security Service last June.

To steal employees’ credentials, the G.R.U. hackers directed Burisma to their fake login pages. Area 1 was able to trace the look-alike sites through a combination of internet service providers frequently used by G.R.U.’s hackers, rare web traffic patterns, and techniques that have been used in previous attacks against a slew of other victims, including the 2016 hack of the D.N.C. and a more recent Russian hack of the World Anti-Doping Agency.

“The Burisma hack is a cookie-cutter G.R.U. campaign,” Mr. Falkowitz said. “Russian hackers, as sophisticated as they are, also tend to be lazy. They use what works. And in this, they were successful.”


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/13/us/politics/russian-hackers-burisma-ukraine.html

Oh look! The Russians helping Trump again ! Coincidence??? Nahhhhh.

Trump, Shifting Arguments, Urges Swift Dismissal of Impeachment Charges

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-shifting-arguments-urges-swift-131151375.html

Wonder what made him flip flop.

Just get the impeachment articles over to the grownups in the Senate already. They will show you how a fair trial is held. They won't abuse the Constitution for political gain.

Stop screwing around and lets get this done!

Nancy pelosi got her way, again.

Even with control, GOP still bows to the Dems.

Nancy got squat except for embarrassment.

Stop.

Just stop.

Stop screwing around and let the grownups handle this in the Senate.

Mitt Romney and a few others will vote for witnesses.

Maybe a few do care about justice?

she held up long enough for the some in the gop to start calling for witnesses.

Pelosi has been dog walking the GOP non stop.

or they care about their careers.

either way, Trump was calling for the GOP to dismiss the charges. that wont be happening.

Don't forget that Nancy holding this up allowed for new evidence to come out and Bolton to say he would testify. Good or bad, that's a win too. Nancy put McConnell in a damned if you do damned if you don't situation.

Who would the Republicans call as witnesses?

They will just use it as a distraction. They would try to call Biden and his son. You know, people that have nothing to do with any of the actions Trump has actually taken.

https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedf..._attachment.pdf


Here is a link to some of what was turned over concerning rudy

The annotated version

https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/20200114_-_parnas_excerpts_translated_slide_deck.pdf

I’m thinking bring In the Biden’s. We’ll give you the Biden’s give us Rudy and Bolton. Let’s see what happens.

Our government has been a three ring circus ever since they elected the carnival barker. They may as well make this the same way. History will judge them appropriately.