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any americans?

Three Americans killed in Kenya terror attack


Zachary Downes 2 hrs ago
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(CNN) — Three Americans were killed in Sunday’s terror attack in Kenya

The Americans — a US service member and two civilian contractors working for the Defense Department — were killed in the attack carried out by Al-Shabaab, US Africa Command, which is responsible for military relations with nations on the continent, confirmed to CNN. Two DOD members wounded in the attack are now in stable condition and are being evacuated, Africa Command said.

The attack occurred at a Kenya Defense Force in Manda Bay, Kenya. Sources have previously told CNN that the base was used by US Special Operations forces working with the Kenyans.

Africa Command said the US uses the airfield for missions such as providing training to African allies, responding to crises and protecting US interests in the region.

The names of those who were killed and wounded have not been released.

“Our thoughts and prayers are with the families and friends of our teammates who lost their lives today,” US Army Gen. Stephen Townsend, commander, US Africa Command, said in a statement. “As we honor their sacrifice, let’s also harden our resolve. Alongside our African and international partners, we will pursue those responsible for this attack and al-Shabaab who seeks to harm Americans and U.S. interests. We remain committed to preventing al-Shabaab from maintaining a safe haven to plan deadly attacks against the U.S. homeland, East African and international partners.”

Al-Shabaab has previously pledged allegiance to Al Qaeda.

As CNN reported earlier Sunday US and Kenyan aircraft, both rotary and fixed-wing, were damaged in the attack, Africa Command now says six contractor-operated civilian aircraft were damaged to some degree.

US authorities provided more details about the brazen attack which involved indirect and small arms fire. They said forces from Kenya Defense forces as well as those from US Africa Command fought back the attack after an initial penetration of the perimeter of the facility.

“The work that our U.S. forces are doing in East Africa bolsters partnerships, counters malign influence, and maintains critical pressure on terrorist networks,” Townsend said. “Our efforts directly contribute to counterterrorism, maritime surveillance, and intelligence sharing missions with our Kenyan partners. This activity enables enhanced security and stability in the region and for America.”

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J/C

Iran Sabaogted 6 oil tankers in Strait of Hormuz. We didn't do anything.

Iran shot down a US Drone - We didn't do anything.

Attacks Saudi Oil Field - we didn't do anything

Iranian Gen. Responsible for 600 US deaths, and countless injuries to soldiers from IEDs. - we did nothing.

Iran Attacks US Embassy - we respond.

"why does trump want to start a war?"

At some point, you have to stand up and fight back, or the enemy will walk all over you, pushing the line each time.

We responded as a retaliation to the embassy attacks - so don't give me this "we needed congress approval" - he didn't. He notified them within the time frame he was required to notify them in after the fact.

I have been on the fence about this - but this dude needed to die, and I am glad he is dead.

How do you feel about Trump, per his tweets, selecting some of the potential targets as cultural sites?

Will you support these war crimes if he strikes them? Will you work to hold a war criminal accountable?

iran also said its own oil tanker got hit in those same attacks. so its a he said, she said. let me remind you, it came from the same intelligence community that trump trashes all the time.

also, how many americans died?



they said it was in their airspace. we said it was in international waters. so its a he said, she said.

also, how many americans died?



how many americans died? and are you saying we need to defend the saudis oil fields? that doesnt sound like the willit i know.



as someone who has deployed to the region, i can say with most certainty that the majority of guys we shot at/captured that werent iraqi were saudi nationals.

ya know, the same country that the 9/11 terrorist was from. the same country that is the #1 sponsor of terrorism around the world. iran is an enemy, but do you really want to get into a discussion about who's responsible for US deaths? you just sat there and basically implied we need to help the saudis defend their oil....the same oil that has helped them fund terrorist activities that have killed far more americans than iran.

lol.



how many americans died?



this is what you and others are basically doing.

"hey, Sergeant, those guys are throwing rocks at our heavily armored vehicles"

"ok, shoot at them"

"but sergeant, shouldnt we just speed up through the checkpoint? they arent damaging anything"

"i dont care. as a matter of fact, open the .50 on they asses. teach them a lesson".

Willit, you understand why that blatant gross escalation would land that sergeant in prison, correct?

now take that to a grander scale. you and the trump administration have devolved into claiming "well, i mean.....ummm....they did some stuff a while back so we gotta act".

if THATS the standard we wanna go, then you would agree with me thats there a whooooole bunch of people who would feel justified in trying to kill american troops for past issues back in the day, correct? i mean that is your logic after all.

and then the embassy attack.....an attack that no americans were injured (nevermind killed), is the last straw?

so instead of attacking one of their convoys, or a ship, or some other site.....we go after their top commander? one of their generals? that is an act of war.

now, you clearly are very fine with the thought of going to war with iran, or you wouldnt be sitting here trying to justify it. because it IS an act of war.

would we not being going to war if another country killed one of our generals? you already know the answer to that.

Trump doesnt need congressional approval for a strike. but for someone claiming to be on the fence about it, after this post from you? you need to get back on the fence.

a lot of you have proven over and over again that you have no clue how escalation works in potential military conflicts. and it shows. and no, you dont need to be in the military to understand that. it should be quite obvious.

should be.

I just wanna throw rocks at Trump.

and lets be clear because the conservative clown show is already trying to claim that liberals are now defending Soleimani.

we're not. not even remotely. he got whats coming to him. but it has ALWAYS been about long term ramifications.

again, i repeat, its ALWAYS been about long term ramifications.

ya know, the same long term ramifications that our government completely ignored when we took out Saddam.

its very clear that conservatives and the US government learned ABSOLUTELY nothing from that whatsoever.

but unfortunately, the reality is that conservatives are constantly banging on the drums of war anyway. nobody supports the war machine like the good old god fearing christian conservatives in this country.

the military industrial complex, and oil industry, gets another massive win.

so much for trump and conservatives wanting to end wars in the middle east. that was a lie.

i just want trump to leave and go back to trump tower, where he belongs.

i am so thankful im not in the miltary under trump. what a despicable human being to serve under.

willit is young enough that he can sign up for service himself.

I know. This has had me thinking about my grandsons. In 3 years they will start being eligible to serve... Then I thought omg, granddaughter too! Women didn't serve in combat when I served. I damn sure don't want any of them fighting over there.

Unfortunately, and i really hate using that word in a lot of cases, but it was most definitely an assassination.

they should be the first to volunteer. but we all know how those who bang the loudest on the drums of war will actually do.

nothing.

fun fact: 4 of trump's children are old/young enough to serve.

I feel that he probably doesn't know what a cultural site is. For all we know the sites were listed as important to a military standpoint. You have no idea what exactly he is referring too - and are completely speculating.

I think you are a little off the rail on this topic, frankly.

Its weird, arguing with a person that supports a terrorist that has killed Americans in this Iranian Gen.

Sad day.

So your argument is that guys who were blown to pieces by his IEDs, and those attacked on US soil at the Embassy (and these are just things we KNOW about mind you) is akin to some people throwing rocks at an armed convoy?

I am not. I have said that already. I am clearly for this guy being dead. I am 100% for the admin to reach out to Iran and lending a diplomatic branch to them regarding this matter. Our embassy was attacked, this was our response. We can either move forward or not - its on you.

Everything is straight to war with you guys

I was on the fence about it, over the weekend I am off the fence. The strike was called for, and administered precisely. Kuddos to our armed forces for their great work.

Because I agree with the strike, does not mean wish we go straight to war. As I said, you contact them, tell this was the response, and the next move is there's. If they wish to continue and escalate - then that's on them. I highly doubt they do, officially.

I don't think you know how it works actually.

You see, they attacked us - we responded.

We now send them the message that is over - and any futhur acts will be responded too in just.

If they chose to react to that, then its on them.

Your entire scenario you presented with the rocks and armed convoy couldn't be farther from the mark of this story. In your analogy, not a single American was murdered, or attacked on US Soil. BIG DIFFERENCE

I would, if they would take me. Was denied when I was 18 for medical reasons. Brothers, cousins, grandparents all served. Would have given anything to have been able to follow in their footsteps, but sadly I was not able too. Your point?

the fact that you think we can just kill a military general and be like "yo its all good now, right?" is highly pathetic and shows your lack of intelligence, or common sense for that matter.



the rest of this post was so bad that all i can do is re-quote what i already posted to you:



lmfao my god. this is bad.

J/C

I've said my piece on the topic, you all can sit around have tug at each other if you want, supporting Iranian terrorist over the US, be as it may.

Don't change the fact that someone who has terrorized a region and its people for decades has been eliminated, and that's good news.

lololololololol

do you know how many times ive heard this EXACT BS line from people who love talking tough about the military and our enemies?

"oh i wouldve joined but my mom and my dog is almost at the end and my dad took my debit card" blah blah blah.

Willit is now donald trump. will do everything but join.

It wasn't bone spurs was it?

its ok willit. i'd make this same exact post if i didnt know what the hell i was talking about, too.

Believe whatever you want. I know why your not longer enlisted. Same reason I am was not accepted.

My guess is "on purpose" just like so many other lies the enemy of the people have told us over the last 4 years.

they wouldnt let you join for PTSD? what happened, your hot teacher touched you when you were 16?

My struggles with mental illness have been spoken about on this board and its something I take great pride in overcoming to become the person I am today. If you think that's something to try make fun off, go suck and egg ya pos.

PTSD no. but not far off.

i think its something to make fun of cause i make fun of my ptsd all the time.

I have no issue if you want to try to make fun of YOUR OWN circumstance. Trying to poke fun at someone elses mental illness is low and classless.

so, you actually TOLD the military you have mental illness issues? or did they found out another way?

It was just a joke willit. No harm was intended.

ill take you for your word. I apologize if I overreacted. Rubbed me the wrong way. I have suffered from it for a long time, and I am in a good place for the last several years now thankfully.

Someone I know recently (not terribly well, but am acquainted with) lost their battle with it recently, so I think I am just on edge a little bit and more defensive about it right now.

We're cool.

Kinda both.

I was in the MCJROTC in HS. When I was meeting with recruiter for USMC, the instructor informed me that if I didn't he would. In his words - "his duty to protect me as my instructor and teacher".

I would have given anything to have been able to serve. I understand with that sentence, you probably have heard it 100X over by a bunch of old high school football stars that are working at a car lot after the fact. But I know what I wanted and would still do if I could.

Part of me thinks I should have just lied, but a big part of me knows that at that age - at that time, I was not in the capacity to be able to do so. I think back about it now, and Sgt Maj was right.

So, in long story form, I did and I was disqualified.

Edit to add: I miss Sgt Maj a lot. He had a great influence on me. Dude was a bad arse too! He was former Marine now ROTC instructor - he was basically a drill sgt for the drill sgts. he taught the Marine Drillinstuctor classes when he was in. Dude was CRAZY lol.

Please provide proof where I say I support terrorists.

“Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence”
- Carl Sagan.

It's just a diversion to try to cover for the fact that Trump did this in the most stupid possible way. You decide to fire missiles at an allies national capital airport without any notification or notice to their government.

Can you imagine what would happen if one of our allies did that to one of their enemies at Regan Intl. Airport?

You are arming up? I thought you were against that...lol


Actually, good for you. Everybody should. Everybody should have the ability to defend their home in the event of chaos. The police aren't going to be able to help you.

You have to be able to help yourself. Store enough water, food, ammo to hole up for 2-3 months. It doesn't cost that much to do it all at once, and everybody can get that done over 3-4 months. You can buy a lot of canned beans for $100. Bottled water doesn't cost much. Factor 5 bottles a day per person for drinking and 1 for sanitary purposes. Ammo a bit more, but a few hundred shotgun shells isn't all that much and double that quantity on 9mm can be done. Then you are set. All that stuff holds for years, forget the expiration dates on the cans, especially veggie products.

Then every month after that, keep adding. Sheets of ply-wood and saws to block up windows. Tools and nails. A good dog never hurts....not a big dog, they eat lots of food. A alert terrier who barks. Great guard dogs who don't eat or drink much. They allow you to sleep. More ammo for the shotgun. There are some really cool shells you can buy above and beyond standard shot. Slugs to incendiary .



You get the drill.

Defending your home is a much better motivation than doing it in case you have to take up arms in yet another civil war. Motivation means a lot.

Glad you quoted ocds post. To both of you: Did they, or will then enlist?

You both know we haven't had a draft in what 5 decades?

Vietnam was the last time there was a draft.

Just like a few idiots posted a while back "Trump is going to get us in a nuke war with N. Korea......" Scare tactics.

Women have never been drafted I believe.

Most people I know that served have encouraged their kids to enlist over the years.