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Well out of who is left I would rank them;

1. Stefanski
2. Saleh
3. Bieniemy
4. Schwartz
5. McDaniels


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Joe Judge wasn’t in anyone’s top 5 lol


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Joe Judge wasn’t in anyone’s top 5 lol


And he was/is still more likely than Urban Meyer, Jim Harbaugh, and Lincoln Riley (who some people listed).

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Joe Judge wasn’t in anyone’s top 5 lol




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j/c At this point - only listing who is available per reporting as opposed to my original top 5....

1. Jim Schwartz
2. Saleh
3. Roman


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Joe Judge wasn’t in anyone’s top 5 lol


I had to Google him, and Wikipedia has him as the head coach of the Giants. Gotta love the speed of the interwebs.

I do not remember hearing this guy connected to any team. He was the WR coach at NE. I do not know what his experience is, but Freddie did have 8 games as an OC between being a position coach and a head coach. We saw how that played out.

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Out of who is left I would rank them;

1. Caldwell
2. Saleh
3. Schwartz
4. Stefanski
5. McDaniels


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Ranking them seems pointless.

Haslam will make his decision. All we can hope for is that he is right.

And we will not know that till we see the results.

Just like Freddie.

The guys remaining from the list are all qualified candidates. How any of them would do in Cleveland with our roster is completely unknown.

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Good point... we really dont know how any will pan out and all seem qualified enough


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1. McDaniels, his second coming is just about due.

2. Daboll, I know not a favorite but I thought he was a very inovative OC when he was here and when he left us. I thought his job with Colt McCoy was excellent. He also got the most out of Allen as well.

3. Lincoln Kennedy with Urban Myer as his GM. If you going college that is the way to go.

4. was McCarthy but he is long gone.

5. Bienemy but he seemed to be very similar to Kitchens.

Guy I think is over rated...

Baylor HC Matt Rhule...yeah I know he had a nice progression with Temple and then Baylor year 1, 2 n 3 but that is college recruiting not NFL.

But what stood out for me is that he had a powder puff schedule this year - whoopity Do 10 wins. But the 3 games he needed to make a statement. Sooner game #1, Sooner game #2 and then his Bowl Game. HE LOST ALL 3...not impressed at all and he seems to be a BB wanna bee with the Hoody...jmho


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Lincoln Kennedy would be interesting. Would most likely be the largest HC in the history of the game.

Lincoln Riley maybe, EO.

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Urban Meyer as GM? Really? He has never even set foot in a draft room, never evaluated a free agent, and has never coached at the pro level at any position.

Pairing him with Lincoln Riley, (who I assume you meant) who has also never been in the NFL at any level, would be a colossal disaster.


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The Panthers and the Giants did us a favor with their hires smile


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Really, who knows how ANY coach, available or not, would do with this roster, team, ownership? I just can't rate any hire until this time next year.

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Agreed. Any new HC that come in here has a 2 problems right off the bat. First of all he has the same problem any new coach would have and that is getting to know the roster, getting acclimated to his new job etc. But here in Cleveland he has another big problem; trying to turn around a losing culture. That is harder than making roster decisions IMO. Nobody in 20 years has been able to do it yet. I'd like to suggest he take a Psychology course or 2. It might be very useful!

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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
1. McDaniels
2. Stefanski
3. Saleh
4. Schwartz
5. Roman


My updated list that no one cares about except me:

1. McDaniels
2. Schwartz
3. Stefanski
4. Saleh
5. Roman

Thank you for your time.

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1. McDaniels
2. Stefanski
3. Saleh
4. Schwartz
5. Roman


My updated list that no one cares about except me:

1. McDaniels
2. Schwartz
3. Stefanski
4. Saleh
5. Roman

Thank you for your time.


Schwartz catapulted up in your list! What made the difference for you?

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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
1. McDaniels
2. Stefanski
3. Saleh
4. Schwartz
5. Roman


My updated list that no one cares about except me:

1. McDaniels
2. Schwartz
3. Stefanski
4. Saleh
5. Roman

Thank you for your time.


Schwartz catapulted up in your list! What made the difference for you?


Someone else cared?!?!?

I didn't think Schwartz was a real candidate. After researching him a but more I like him more than Stefanski and Saleh. The following are the reasons why:

1. He has already been a head coach. Normally I wouldn't value head coaching experience all that much but I think a person who has been in charge of the entire team before would be more likely to succeed with our current team. I think that one of the reasons Freddie Kitchens failed was because he lacked preparation for things that were unforeseen (cleat issues, helmet smashing, etc.). Having head coach with experience would at least have some knowledge base with how to handle crazy circumstances. That will be very useful with our drama filled team.

2. Working for the Eagles, one of the most analytically driven teams in the NFL, would give Schwartz insight into how things would work from the top down. It would also him a year of experience working with Andrew Berry (if that is who we hire as our GM).

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Thanks for the followup, cfrs. I was curious as to what changed and was going to ask, but someone beat me to it.

I can get on board with Schwartz. The biggest drawback will be everyone on social media quoting Spaceballs. Good movie, but it will go overboard.

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Thanks for the followup, cfrs. I was curious as to what changed and was going to ask, but someone beat me to it.

I can get on board with Schwartz. The biggest drawback will be everyone on social media quoting Spaceballs. Good movie, but it will go overboard.


As it should!!!!

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Was not impressed by Schwartz or his record with the Lions , period .. I understand all the rage is a guy with head coach experience.. What I want is for the Haslams to go on a three year hiatus ( anywhere ) and for a young gun to be given the chance . An obvious hard charging emotional Coach like Saleh is a front runner for me .. I also like what Roman has accomplished in Baltimore ..

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1. Brian Billick
2. Gary Kubiak
3. Mike Shanahan
4. Jay Gruden
5. Jim Schwartz


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1. Brian Billick
2. Gary Kubiak
3. Mike Shanahan
4. Jay Gruden
5. Jim Schwartz


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Jim Schwartz.
Kevin Stafansky
Saleh
McDaniels
Roman


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Of the remaining candidates:

1, Saleh
2, McDaniels
3, Bieniemy
4. Schwartz

My top HC candidate did not get interviewed this year - Dan Campbell N.O. Saints
Did last year's interview go that badly?


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My top HC candidate did not get interviewed this year - Dan Campbell N.O. Saints
Did last year's interview go that badly?



He may have said no to the job if he was offered it.

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1. McDaniels
2. Saleh
3. Bienemy
4. Schwartz
No Stefanski, please!!!!

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After today I am wondering why we aren't interviewing the OC and DC of the Titans! That is the kind of football we should be playing. Great defense and RUN THE BALL. We have Chubb AND Hunt. We have the start of a really good D. We play in the AFC North. Defense and running the ball are really important.


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1. Saleh
2. McDaniels
3. Bienemy


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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After today I am wondering why we aren't interviewing the OC and DC of the Titans! That is the kind of football we should be playing. Great defense and RUN THE BALL. We have Chubb AND Hunt. We have the start of a really good D. We play in the AFC North. Defense and running the ball are really important.


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If yesterday's game between the 49ers and Vikes was a head to head test of which HC candidate could better lead his squad, Saleh won. If it's between Saleh and Stefanski, give me Saleh.

That said, McDaniels, with his flaws, is better prepared for the HC role. He's tried and failed, and applied himself to learning from his mistakes. Having been in the role of HC before, he has a better understanding of the difference between being a HC and being a coordinator.

We have a team that, talent-wise, is ready to compete. If we hire Saleh (or anyone w/o HC experience), he still has to learn the lessons McDaniels (or Schwartz) has already learned. Saleh may, 3-4 years down the road, be a better HC, but we need the guy who's a better HC now or we will have wasted the opportunity.

The flip side is, if Saleh is the better long-term choice. Choosing McDaniels will hurt us down the road. Of course with Haslam as owner, 3-4 years down the road will be a different HC altogether.

Given the situation;
McDaniels
Schwartz
Saleh
Rolling the dice on another OC/DC with promise


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Based on little and not disagreeing with you. Just a simpler dumb lineman consideration. Of the remainder list, which one of these candidates would best fire you up and suit up to go to war with him. For me, it would be Saleh hands down. maybe there is no place for a scorching kind of coach anymore. But I have said we showed more complacency than I expected last year, partially due to over 30 giveaways and dumb play calling. And no real leader emerged.

Saleh might be able to forge something special if he brings us some fire. We have good candidates left overall, so I am trying to look for a strong "extra" that might help us.


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Dangit, you're throwing the delicate balance of my argument off. smile


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If yesterday's game between the 49ers and Vikes was a head to head test of which HC candidate could better lead his squad, Saleh won.


If the Browns make a decision as important as this based on a one game sample, then they are even dumber than I thought they were.

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If yesterday's game between the 49ers and Vikes was a head to head test of which HC candidate could better lead his squad, Saleh won.


If the Browns make a decision as important as this based on a one game sample, then they are even dumber than I thought they were.


Not only that, but Stefanski had Cousins as his QB.

Not lobbying for Stefanski. Just pointing out that it's dumb to base the decision on a head to head matchup. Not only that but you're not hiring these guys for their coordination.


LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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That's not what I'm suggesting. But as a tie-breaker, assuming you have Stefanski and Saleh evaluated equally otherwise, the ability to inspire his team to take it to the next level in a win or go home game is a pretty good measuring stick.

Besides, if that's what you took as the point of my original post, then you missed the point. The point was that this team, right now, is better served a HC with experience.


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Of course they aren’t going to make a decision based on one game. That’s silly. The Browns will surely have pulled and studied all the Vikings games in preparation for the interview. That still doesn’t answer, are the training wheels really off, on Stafanski yet? The Asst Head coach and Offensive Advisor, Gary Kubiak, was in a press box yesterday, seemingly in direct communication with his offensive coordinator. Who’s really running that show?

That one game though, was not a good look for their preparation skills based on the SF defense they were facing. It was a playoff game after-all. They looked as out-classed as we did most of the season.

More of the same is not what I’m hoping for.


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I agree .. based on what we have seen of the Fire and Brimstone, in your face style coaches ... Vrabel .. the Harbaughs .. even Tomlin .. I do like that style of coach better than a sit on your hands composed coach.


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