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No you're not. You're making up irrational statements to prop up your BS like you always do.

You must have meant Spinal Tap.

Stupid irrational BS. If you are going to argue, at least try to be rational.

This is why you are always a waste of time. You make up stupid BS to try to spin an argument, rather than have an actual opinion based on anything sensible.

I don't have more time to waste on you.

The time you wasted was trying to pretend or convince anyone that Trump has a spine.

He huffed and he puffed but couldn't blow the house down. He threatened to hit 52 Iranaian targets of they did anything like this. Iran hit an American military base with at least five missiles and he sat on his hands.

Trying to make Trump sound like he has a spine is how you're wasting your time.

He throws tantrums like a three year old and makes empty threats trying to act like a tough guy. I know facts are something you often find offensive. I'm used to that.

Sounds like a lot of people in the thread about Nick Sandman

According to you this is deflection.

Has anybody asked Canada how they feel about 76 of their citizens being murdered by Iran???

And they shouldn't be president either.

And that's what people should be doing. Canada suffered the loss and they should be given the upper hand in how to move forward with all of this.

But if things go as usual our government will lead the way and care little about what they have to say.

Folks on both sides just want to make me puke sometimes

I just want someone fit to hold the office of president at this point.

I will have to give her credit. I quoted what Trump actually said. I can see why that may not seem rational.

YOU GUYS ARE RIDICULOUS AND THE CLOSER WE GET TO ELECTION TIME THE MORE RIDICULOUS YOU GET.

THAT GUY SPRIAL DECLARED TRUMP JUST GOT US INTO WW3. If you guys weren't so laughable ........Never mind whats the use.

I am sure had Hitler been taken out early on, many would be in the street in protest.

Come on kid, pull the wool up over your eyes.

Here is a fact. You can vote your way in to communism. You have to shoot your way out.

It's like the kid working at the butcher shop. If he takes a whole salami, the butcher is going to notice. If he takes it a few slices at a time, the butcher never knows.


The same with our liberties and rights.

Don't be so eager to see those eroded away. Pretty soon, you won't be able to get Twitter and then you will be ticked, but guess what? Too late my friend. Shoot your way out.

Not sure what this was in response to?

As for killing an Iranian General and our liberties and freedoms/rights .... not certain what the connection is.

Another inane response from someone that doesn’t know the difference between communism and democratic socialism. Why bother with the rest of their ‘thought’.?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-tried-failed-iranian-quds-190925906.html

US tried to take out another Iranian leader, but failed
Associated Press
LOLITA C. BALDOR and ROBERT BURNS
,Associated Press•January 10, 2020


WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. military tried, but failed, to take out another senior Iranian commander on the same day that an American airstrike killed the Revolutionary Guard's top general, U.S. officials said Friday.

The officials said a military airstrike by special operations forces targeted Abdul Reza Shahlai, a high-ranking commander in Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps but the mission was not successful. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity in order to discuss a classified mission.

Officials said both Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani and Shahlai were on approved military targeting lists, which indicates a deliberate effort by the U.S. to cripple the leadership of Iran’s Quds force, which has been designated a terror organization by the U.S. Officials would not say how the mission failed.

A U.S. drone strike on Jan. 3 killed Soleimani shortly after he landed at Baghdad International Airport. Trump administration officials have justified the killing as an act of self-defense, saying he was planning military acts that threatened large numbers of American military and diplomatic officials in the Middle East. Iran, however, called the attack an act of terrorism, and on Jan. 8 it launched more than a dozen ballistic missiles at two bases in Iraq that house American and coalition forces. No one was killed in that retaliation.

The State Department offered a reward of $15 million early last month for information leading to the disruption of IRGC finances, including Shahlai, a key financier in the organization. The State Department said he “has a long history of targeting Americans and U.S. allies globally,” and planned multiple assassinations of coalition forces in Iraq. It said that his activities included providing weapons and explosives to Shia militia groups and directing a plot to assassinate the Saudi ambassador in Washington, D.C., in 2011.

The Pentagon declined to discuss the highly-classified operation.

“We have seen the report of a January 2 airstrike in Yemen, which is long-understood as a safe space for terrorists and other adversaries to the United States. The Department of Defense does not discuss alleged operations in the region," said Navy Cdr. Rebecca Rebarich, a Pentagon spokeswoman.

The Washington Post first reported the development.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/477757-white-house-spokesman-roasted-over-obama-tweet

No wonder all the Trump supporters constantly get their "facts" wrong and come up with so much BS

A kid stealing salami at a butcher shop used as an analogy to a political system, liberties and rights?

Wow. That analogy probably wouldn't get high marks on a college thesis. But there you go.

Only on Dawgtalkers.

j/c

Let's dismiss anything regarding Trump being responsible for the downed airliner. This is just another example of the reaches both the left and right go to in order to blame the other side for everything.

People know that I don't care for Trump. The reasons are obvious for anyone willing to take a look at the facts but first and foremost the man wouldn't know what telling the truth is if his life depended on it. I could go on but that is the main reason.

But in the case of the downed airliner, there is no blame on Trump for it.

Did he make a bunch of claims that he would attack 52 Iranian sites? Yes he did. Would it be reasonable to expect Iran to be on heightened alert after launching missiles at our military base? Yes it would.

But it is totally the responsibility of Iran's for shooting that passenger jet down. 100%.

The fact they allowed passenger jets to fly while under a state of heightened alert is their fault. The fact they couldn't tell the difference between a passenger jet and a military jet is their fault. The fact the decisions they made caused that tragedy is their fault.

Now we can get into what a president is allowed to do and what they aren't allowed to do. They are not a king or a czar. They are bound by certain restraints. Whether their decisions are right or wrong, there are checks and balances in place.

The president is only allowed to take such actions of killing a general the way he did without going to "the gang of eight" if it is considered an immediate, imminent threat. Here is Mike Pompeo's comments about that on FOX News......



Now the only debate is when you don't know when or where something will happen, does that constitute an imminent threat.

im·mi·nent
/ˈimənənt/
adjective: imminent

1.
about to happen.

I question this with great skepticism. After all....we went to Iraq 2.0 on the basis of "imminent attack using weapons of mass destruction". That has since been debunked as American propaganda that was false info and a total lie.

No ... the blame is Obama's !!

You can't make up the amount of CrAzY the Trumpians will go to .... roflmao

Since you can't believe a word that comes out if this White House, the truthfulness of anything they say has to come into question from any normal thinking person.

That is the normal process when you spend most of your time as president playing The Boy Who Cried Wolf.

As for trying to hold Trump accountable for anything .... LOL. Again, the crazies will deflect and come up with ANYTHING but examine the facts.

I'm certainly not a Trumpian by any stretch in case you just skim the board and make up responses.

But I won't just make up BS to blame him for things he's not responsible for.

I know Pit - in case you missed it we have the gullible suggesting that the missile that shot the plane down is Obama's fault and was paid for with money released by Obama.

People are too busy trying to play follow the leader with the liar and chief rather than to look into the facts. It's all the rage in Trumplandia these days.

Great. We’re nothing more than mercenaries to trump.

I thought that was what Blackwater was for? Maybe this is just another way of him creating jobs?

Iranian protesters take to streets after...ally shot down

I’m highly skeptical of the ‘they’ve already deposited $1B in the bank’ statement.
Bank?

Relax Bro... stop yelling with your panties in a wad. I said he just kick started WWIII. give the turd some time to rev it up some more.

Yep ....money buying American blood to protect their oil refineries. Trump.......pfffft. Thought we sold the Saudi’s billions of dollars of weapons to protect themselves from Iran. Trump..... pfffft. And what do we do with that money? Build more weapons of mass destruction and amass more troops. pffft trump. War to protect Saudi oil. Pffft

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/10/politics/trump-iran-mixed-messaging/index.html

https://www.nationalmemo.com/pompeo-trum.../?cn-reloaded=1

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-h...threat-n1113846

An ever changing story - or an ever changing series of lies basically.

No wonder Trump calls the free press the enemy of the people when they keep quoting what Trump and his officials say and highlight the contradictions and then explain how what they say changes to suit their agenda.

Well, Iran responded by blowing up the outside area of a parking lot where only the grocery carts that were never going to be returned anyway, were parked.

Furthermore, the population of Iran is now in full revolt, filling the streets of Tehran while calling for the Ayatollah's head.

Now that is what I call repercussions!

You are right, Facts Matter. Now you have them.

One more fact you have ignored all along...

Trump Got This!

I posted the link with satellite images showing five missile hits directly on our our base. You can lie all you won't but sometimes, to some people, facts matter.



Just keep spreading those lies 40.

https://www.businessinsider.com/defense-secretary-esper-didnt-see-iran-threat-us-embassies-2020-1

Most of the time I know you are trolling and spewing stuff because ... well because thats what you do. Sometimes I think you might believe the crap you say ....

https://www.businessinsider.com/defense-secretary-esper-didnt-see-iran-threat-us-embassies-2020-1

Did u read the article or just the headline? ... talk about misleading ....

And u got the guts to call 40 out for spewing stuff and trolling ... what a crock of crap ... ...

Once the truth enters their bubble of hate, they call names, grunt and scratch a lot.