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I don't work for the team either but thats not stopping me from saying what I think they're doing wrong..and now they have to admit that the base things they're doing isn't working..
Get these older vets on the bench..
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HA! That's the spirt LOL.
I think in general the rotation, especially on defense, is not a Romeo strong suit. You have to throw more looks out there. If you have the same guys out in your base D at all times, it's a bit predictable (which I think the Browns are in general, on defense).
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Of curse they are..(course but we're cursed )...they leave Wimbley on the strong side to get DT'd every passing down instead of overloading that side or flipping him inside or on the weakside.
You hardly ever see us stunt our linemen or get crazy and put a NT over the center with one other DE AND USE 5 LB's to confuse the offense..
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don't work for the team either but thats not stopping me from saying what I think they're doing wrong..and now they have to admit that the base things they're doing isn't working..
I'll never had a problem with someone that thinks one way, then realizes that thier thinking was flawed,,, and they correct it.. No problem at all. We've all done that...
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Of curse they are..(course but we're cursed )...they leave Wimbley on the strong side to get DT'd every passing down instead of overloading that side or flipping him inside or on the weakside.
You hardly ever see us stunt our linemen or get crazy and put a NT over the center with one other DE AND USE 5 LB's to confuse the offense..
We've been getting back to basics.....For the last three years!
I watch the New England D and the Jet D and they are always confusing people wiht blitz packages....We just play the same basic D all game long...all year long....and next year we will get back to basics again.
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And the answer to that may be that the team just doesn't trust it's DB's, which isn't shocking. Like I said before though, sometimes you have to take risks. If you're going to get beat playing conservative, might as well see what aggressive will do for ya.
I actually fail to explain how the Browns get beat the way they do, which is every single way imaginable.
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They don't trust the DB's..and I'll pinpoint who it is. Pool/Wright..Wright is a rookie...so thats easy.. Pool is not instinctive and doesn't know his assignment. It's not hard for me to pick on DB's..  They miss Russell's smarts..that was a mistake..perhaps they should have kept him around ONE more year..
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I miss Russell...
If the Browns wanted to pressure more, and run a modified 4-6, they'd be in some trouble. That is a man's defense, and it's very rigorous on the CB's. There is a reason Samari Rolle gets to keep a starting job in Baltimore...he's got the man cover skills they need, even if he's lost a step. I'm not sure Wright and Bodden are ready.
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Well it's a mans D agreed but this timid stuff we run is WEAK...
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but Rac said something I'll debate your point on..he said they WOULD BREAK EVERY ASPECT DOWN and SEE where the fault lies...
That extensive type of disecting shoulda been done after the Pittsburgh game..actually in preseason since we were getting chewed up then also.
So you honestly don't think after each and every game they don't dissect every aspect, the ones that worked and the ones that didn't? What he should have said, which is probably more true, is... we'll do it again, and we'll keep doing it until we figure out what the problem is... (so don't let this secret get out, but unless by reviewing tape, they can make Big Ted 8 years younger, there is only so much they can do.)
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I agree. You can run a good zone defense (not typically from a 3-4) that creates pressure, and contains offenses, but the Browns are just perpetually sitting down on everything, and still giving up huge amounts of yards.
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So you honestly don't think after each and every game they don't dissect every aspect,
I think they disect it but feel they will make only minimal changes or something will get better the next week..dude they've had this problem 8 years now..
Sincee we agree Ted is part of the problem get him out..he's too old to control his own body or even move so he's a liability..
If guys aren't staying in their gaps..well PUNISH them in practice ..till they LEARN to stay focused..
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You ever wonder whats going through Lerner's Mind ? Grantham new Three year deal , who's idea ? the 53 man roster , who's idea ? FA. pick ups , and so on ?? 
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j/c We need one thing that will put us on top: UFO Defense returns! 
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You ever wonder whats going through Lerner's Mind ? Grantham new Three year deal , who's idea ? the 53 man roster , who's idea ? FA. pick ups , and so on ??
Knowledge of why,,, understanding the thinking,,, those things lessen the anxiety for Lerner I bet,,
That's what a lot of people around here don't get. Lerner has spoken at length about how much he wants a winner...
But what you never hear him doing is going over the reasons for this signing, or that trade.. He never talks much about those things in public,, actuallly he doesn't talk much in public at all.
As the team owner, he's at the very least, made aware of the BIG moves.. extended contracts, High Profile FA Signings,, High Profile Releases or Trades. I'm sure that when discussions of how the season is going take place, he's there, listening in or contributing.
That's why I say to people, I don't think RAC is on as hot a seat as some might think. Lerner is in on decisions.. He knows what they are trying. He hears right directly from RAC and Savage why something did or didn't work and what the corrections might be..
Lerner was interviewed last year for a TV show. Can't remember what station. But there was a camara in his office in Berea and he was in there being filmed with Savage, RAC and Jim Brown and they were discussing the most recent game and the upcoming game.. I don't know if that happens each week like they said it does, but it might I suppose..
I guess what I'm driving at is that when your in "the know", and you hear what is being attempted by the people that work for you, the anxiety level is someone tempered by you involvement..
Not to say he won't fire them both, but I just have my doubts....
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Crennel said an especially significant amount of rotation will occur on the defensive line, where backups Ethan Kelley, Shaun Smith, and Simon Fraser will have a greater opportunity to spell starters Ted Washington, Orpheus Roye, and Robaire Smith.
Oh yeah, that'll fix the problem  
The entire first day of our draft better be on defense.........
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We'll be down to 5 defensive lineman again this week. Missing Roye probably isn't a very big deal since he hasn't done much this year. He may be old but his biggest problem is his health.
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The entire first day of our draft better be on defense.........
Yea, all three picks. The second round, the third round and the extra pick Phils is going to get in the bottom of the first.
Real good to see you back Toad! 
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Yea, all three picks. The second round, the third round and the extra pick Phils is going to get in the bottom of the first.
i think we'll have three picks too...
we're gonna get back in the first round i believe... unless there is no one worth the jump...
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Yea, all three picks. The second round, the third round and the extra pick Phils is going to get in the bottom of the first.
Real good to see you back Toad!
Good to be back, and thanks 
I purposely didn't mention the former first round pick that we had, in the hopes that Opie can do something about it, hehe. I'm now holding you personally responsible for our soon-to-be 1st round pick
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I have said that as soon as Uncle Phil dealt the first for BQ. , he would hard at work trying to replace it some how , some way ! Maybe find a way back into another high second at least !
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Maybe find a way back into another high second at least !
To Toad: I will take personal responsibility for at least that to happen.
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Oh yeah, that'll fix the problem
The entire first day of our draft better be on defense.........
The Browns gave up a lot of yards today but they gave up 6 points before they went into the prevent with a 3 touchdown lead... I know, it's the Ravens... but something worked.
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Hehehe......C'mon DC.
Even when we haven't been trying, we've been in a prevent-lookin' D.
Winning doesn't cure the problem. All it does is disguise it in the eyes of the fans.
It was a nice win, but our defense didn't have alot to do with it *L*
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Hehehe......C'mon DC.
Even when we haven't been trying, we've been in a prevent-lookin' D.
Winning doesn't cure the problem. All it does is disguise it in the eyes of the fans.
It was a nice win, but our defense didn't have alot to do with it *L*
You can't be serious?
3rd down conversion:
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I'd say they had something to do with it..
McNair threw the ball 50+ times for over 300 yards, but his average was 5.8 a pass.. thats GREAT IMO.
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Winning doesn't cure the problem. All it does is disguise it in the eyes of the fans.
It was a nice win, but our defense didn't have alot to do with it *L*
As Pit, the biggest critic of our defense.. I mean of RAC... I mean of Grantham... I mean of everything ... is prone to say, "How many games can we win if we give up 35+ a game?"..... well how many can we win if we give up 13?
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You can run a good zone defense (not typically from a 3-4) that creates pressure, and contains offenses, but the Browns are just perpetually sitting down on everything, and still giving up huge amounts of yards.
This, from RAC's presser:
(On whether the trouble with getting off blocks is a technique, or an attitude, problem)
"Our technique is one that we’re on the blocks a little longer because when you jump off a block the runner usually goes where you’re not. We hang on the blocks just a little bit longer before we get off."
he doesn't want the DL to rush upfield while the RB runs by them..but while they're not upfield guys are not maintaining their gaps so the backs are still getting holes to runt through..
"If you've got players that can't get off the blocker, often you end up with
defenders being shoved to the ground or smothered by much bigger linemen."
Thats what I needed to know...our front seven are NOT GETTING OFF THE BLOCKS..and it's no surprise..I've said that before myself..the Dlinemen are supposed to occupy the Oline but they aren't shedding any blocks thus occuping another linemen, nor are the LB's shedding any blockers either..
Creativity can hide certain weaknesses to an extent. If you have a rookie CB on one side and a hobbled CB opposite him, you can't ask them to cover for 6 seconds.
If you have MLB's who can't get off blocks, then they can't be waiting for OL into get to them and then be asked to defeat and shed.
The Giants may not have blitzed alot, but LT came from everywhere. Kam should be used similarly. Jones and Bodden have shown excellent blitz ability on the rare occasion they've been allowed.
Now we did get more creative against the Rats..but the fact is we don't have all the horses to run the D the way it should be run...but we can still do some things to help the D..as I noted..
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3rd down conversion:
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I'd say they had something to do with it..
McNair threw the ball 50+ times for over 300 yards, but his average was 5.8 a pass.. thats GREAT IMO.
And they didn't punt at all until early in the 4th Quarter.
The stats you give are more of an indictment of their offense than it is praise of our defense.
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
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Winning doesn't cure the problem. All it does is disguise it in the eyes of the fans.
It was a nice win, but our defense didn't have alot to do with it *L*
As Pit, the biggest critic of our defense.. I mean of RAC... I mean of Grantham... I mean of everything ... is prone to say, "How many games can we win if we give up 35+ a game?"..... well how many can we win if we give up 13?
This eerily sounds as though you're giving a passing grade to a defense based on one game. Did the defense have anything to do with Stover, the 2nd best kicker in history, missing not just one but TWO kicks? Did the defense sack McNair even once? Did they do a good job in allowing McGahee a disgusting 7.4 YPC average (14 carries for 104 yards!).
Sadly, we didn't do a good job in stopping the Rats. They stopped themselves.
Here's the more pertinent question: How many games will we win giving up 34, 45, and 26? (Which is exactly what we gave up to the Steelers, the Bungles, and the lowly Raiders)
Turk, giving up a 50% success rate on 3rd downs is BAD! You actually used that as an example to defend this defense?
This defense has faced two good offenses in Pitt and Cincy, and got OWNED by both of those teams.
In turn, they faced a bad Raiders offense and a bad Rats offense, and let both teams do well.
So far, we've allowed a 100 yard rusher in all four games this year 
Need more examples? Here they are:
Despite an offense that's, you know, actually pretty good, we're losing the time of possession battle BADLY: 25:24 to 34:35
We're allowing a HORRID 5.0 yards per carry!
We've generated a whopping FOUR sacks in FOUR games. 16 sacks per season?
The old excuse.....and it was just that, an EXCUSE........that the defense sucked because the offense couldn't move the ball has been SQUASHED and proven to be totally unfounded. Proof:
We rank no worse than 15th in points, rushing, passing, and total yards per game.
Sorry, but this defense stinks. Winning against a pathetic Rats offense doesn't mean anything more than a win. It doesn't excuse what's happening on defense.
The unit can't be excused just because we won the game.
How many games will we win if we only give up 13? A bunch! But does anyone actually believe we're going to give up 13 a game?
Please........raise your hand and tell me just how that will happen..........
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This eerily sounds as though you're giving a passing grade to a defense based on one game.
I wasn't ready to throw RAC out after one game.... I wasn't ready to throw Grantham out after one game... I'm not ready to annoint anybody after one game....
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Funny you should ask... yes they did. They held to make them both 40+ yard field goals instead of chip shots or even TDs... they also held them to a FG when they took over on our 24... they stopped another drive with an INT... and they held on 4th down.....
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As I told Pit.. 34 and 45.. not many... 26 some... but then I also told him I expected the defense to get better... and if it makes you feel better referring to them as the "lowly Raiders" then go for it... but the "lowly Raiders" are a funky time out away from being 3-1.. and seem to be improving as the season progresses... and they just went into Miami and put up 35.... yea I know, it's Miami, there defense is pathetic....
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I fully expect we will finish somewhere between 35 per game and 13 per game... with some games better than others.....
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Sorry, but this defense stinks. Winning against a pathetic Rats offense doesn't mean anything more than a win. It doesn't excuse what's happening on defense.
Yea, I know... we beat the Bengals because of their pathetic Defense.... we beat the Ravens because of their pathetic offense... we were close to the Raiders just because they are pathetic.... what will be interesting is if we are in the game with the Patriots, exactly which unit of theirs are you going to try to tell me is pathetic? 
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Funny you should ask... yes they did. They held to make them both 40+ yard field goals instead of chip shots or even TDs...
Playing spin the question eh? *L*
Stover for his career makes most of those kicks. We looked better because he had an off-day.
Regardless, as noted, we didn't stop the Rats. They stopped themselves with a shoddy offense.
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and if it makes you feel better referring to them as the "lowly Raiders" then go for it... but the "lowly Raiders" are a funky time out away from being 3-1.. and seem to be improving as the season progresses... and they just went into Miami and put up 35.... yea I know, it's Miami, there defense is pathetic....
LOL! We're a funky timeout from being 3-1.
That doesn't make us a good team.
By the way, yeah, the Dolphins defense IS pathetic: dead-last in the league against the run with 199 yards per game, 28th in points at a whopping 30, and 21st in total yards at 344.
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Yea, I know... we beat the Bengals because of their pathetic Defense....
How many points did our "winning team" give up?
Is this thread about winning, or about the sorry defense?
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We can remind each other of this comment later. I'm very interested in hearing whether or not you believe we're going to do well against the Pats offense. That "what-if" question is easy to pose now, but I wonder what you'll be saying when we're getting creamed.
Oh, I know: It's the Pats. They are a great team. We shouldn't expect to be able to stop them because nobody else can. That's an excuse, which is something that many of us have been making for this defense for far too long......
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Just clicking...
Was nice to see Kelley start at the nose.
McGahee had a nice stat line for the game, but it could have been worse. Work is still needed to be done with the DL, but I like how it went yesterday.
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Just clicking...
I think, at this point, I'd like to throw the Pittsburgh game out altogether. So many horrendously and freakishly awful things happened on so early, that everything became skewed, off-balance, and just plain crappy.
That being said, our D still sucks...I'd like to see what is out there draft/free agent wise that can help our line get a push/block holes.
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Playing spin the question eh? *L*
Stover for his career makes most of those kicks. We looked better because he had an off-day.
Yes he does... technically he makes 70% of them and he was 3-4 going in.. he was due to miss one of the two... statistically speaking... so the other is just a bonus....
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LOL! We're a funky timeout from being 3-1.
That doesn't make us a good team.
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Don't spin it.
I'm not spinning anything.. it's about both... the first question I ask myself when evaluating the defense is.. Did they do well enough for us to win?..... the answer this week is yes. Now from there, do we need to improve? Abso-freakin'-lutely.... we need a more consistent pass rush, we need better and more productive blitzes, and we need to stop the run better... this week I thought we did stop the run better.. we were better once the Rats crossed midfield... we had none of those guys standing wide open in center field blown coverages... Now I think it is bad that our two leading tackles are corner backs... could have something to do with them throwing over 50 times... I also think Wimbley got screwed out of a sack.. if the QB is in the grasp and gets called for intentional grounding, the penalty is down and distance as if the sack took place so the guy SHOULD get the sack... JMHO.
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Oh, I'll be here... do well? That's relative. I'm hoping we can keep the Pats under 30 to be perfectly honest, if we do, I think we have a chance to be right in it. Do I expect us to shut them down? Heck no. You won't find in any of my posts where I say our defense is great or a finished product or anything like that... it's a work in progress.. I see improvement and areas for optimism... maybe you don't...
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That "what-if" question is easy to pose now, but I wonder what you'll be saying when we're getting creamed.
We'll just have to wait and see how it plays out...
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Oh, I'll be here... do well? That's relative. I'm hoping we can keep the Pats under 30 to be perfectly honest, if we do, I think we have a chance to be right in it.
While that's asking for a minor miracle from Anderson, when was the last time that we could say we have the ability (if not the probability) of keepin' up, hehe.
DC, I'm not pickin' on ya. I just don't like making excuses for anything in life, and I think our defense has gotten some free passes because we've won some games against some bad teams.
I guess after lookin' in the mirror, I just don't like the idea of what I've seen around this board for years. Such things include excuses for players who aren't very good (see Andra Davis, Couch, Frye, Warren, etc etc etc) and coaches who haven't shown, based on their own merit, that they knew what they were doing (Carthon, probably RAC, Davis, etc etc). I want people to stay focused on the problems, and not lose sight of them just because we've won a couple of games. It comes from my training on how to keep a company running correctly, training that says you focus on the problems, not on the successes.
***Gordon, I really didn't think you could be this stOOpid, but you exceeded my expectations. Wussy.
Manziel, see Josh Gordon. Dumbass.***
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You can't celebrate successes and focus on problems at the same time? How do you run a company if you can't multi-task?
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Sure you can........But this company, while increasing revenue, is hemmoraging money at an alarming rate
I'm not convinced that the COO knows how to stop it.......
***Gordon, I really didn't think you could be this stOOpid, but you exceeded my expectations. Wussy.
Manziel, see Josh Gordon. Dumbass.***
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guess after lookin' in the mirror, I just don't like the idea of what I've seen around this board for years. Such things include excuses for players who aren't very good (see Andra Davis, Couch, Frye, Warren, etc etc etc) and coaches who haven't shown, based on their own merit, that they knew what they were doing (Carthon, probably RAC, Davis, etc etc). I want people to stay focused on the problems, and not lose sight of them just because we've won a couple of games.
Eh? Some in here(especially me) have and continue to point out player defenicies for years and get labeled for it..now I look at things a bit different and see what the Browns are trying to do..so while I don't give them a free pass I understand certain things..
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That's because you're a troublemaker *L*
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Manziel, see Josh Gordon. Dumbass.***
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Thats besides the point  I'm outspoken too..but so what  But in sticking to this thread..all that can be done this season is to mix the defense , shift people around , vary the coverages..and then Phil has to see what he can do to perhaps..I said perhaps aquire a high pick and get some studs in on defense..
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