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Here Are All of the Indictments, Guilty Pleas and Convictions From Robert Mueller's Investigation

https://time.com/5556331/mueller-investigation-indictments-guilty-pleas/

I would think it might be you who didn't want to mention the Mueller investigation.

Never mind all the evidence (that is substantiated in many cases) - never mind the deep rooted connection to so many allies to Trump - never mind the many occasions where he's photographed with Trump (I mean we ALL have those right) .... we gotta ignore it all because this guy is under indictment (arrested right after he met with Guiliani while trying to flee the country ... but yeah, nothing to see here).

So did Cohen's ties.

Rush Limbaugh called this attack from the Left on November 8th of last year. This is nothing new. It was out there months ago. If the Dems wanted to use it during the House Impeachment they could have, They did not. This will turn out as nothing just like all of the enemies other attacks.

Trump impeachment defense team will include Clinton prosecutor Ken Starr and Jeffrey Epstein lawyer Alan Dershowitz

arent those the same lawyers who got epstein out of prison time in 07?

oh, thats right. THAT ken starr:

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/16/sport...aper-trail.html

trump's legal team consist of two guys who covered up sexual abuse. fitting. and where's Giuliani? why isnt he on the team?

Well let's see here....

Dershowitz has defended the likes of...... Patty Hearst, Claus von Bülow, Leona Helmsley, Jim Bakker, Mike Tyson, and O.J. Simpson.

He has Pam Bondi who is a regular screamer on FOX News.

So yeah, with his huge cast of lawyers, he has the best form of paid for justice the law allows.

I mean if Dershowitz can get people like O.J off the hook, Trump should be fine.

The office of Management and budget.... geeez.

Hey Swish, you want a fair trial, right?

Shouldn't the Democrat Senators running for President recuse themselves from this trial?

After all, they have an interest in taking out the political competitor.

Nowhere near as bad as McConnell and Graham who both have already decided Trump is innocent, along with a handful of other GOPer Senators. I'd gladly give tit for tat on that one so there is zero bias.

if they said he should be removed from office, then yes.

Like what happened in the House? The Dems called 17 witnesses and denied all Republican witnesses. I think to be fair the republicans should get 17 witnesses in the Senate and the Dems 0.

The defense doesn't get to call witnesses in the grand jury hearings... If you made an attempt to understand this you wouldn't be so bitter. NOW is when the defense gets to put on their defense.

I'm guessing you didn't read the entire mueller report.. Had you, you would have found that biggest problem with it was that Trump denied access to witnesses and Mueller didn't have authority to force those witnesses to testify.. Sounds and smells like a coverup to me. Still, it found that Mueller could not clear trump of collusion, but couldn't prove that he did collude either.

I'm sure Trump will not be removed from office.. That I believe because you won't find the 67 votes to remove him.

Impeachment might be a possibility.. Only need 4 or 5 Republicans to flip..
But with Trump saying, Hey, vote for me and I'll add money to your reelection coffers, they aren't about to go against him...

There is more than enough evidence to remove him, we just lack leaders that have the courage to follow the oath they took..

Look at McConnell, he said he'd not impartial, but then he lied when he took the oath the other day.

He's a criminal.

As is Trump, Barr, Pompeo, Mulvaney, etc etc... don't forget Pence

People applaud a president obstructing witnesses from testifying. I mean who wants to know the truth in Trumplandia?

While the ignorant run around with their hair on fire, never understanding that the Laws of their own Country give the President Executive Privilege.

Executive privilege is the right of the president of the United States and other members of the executive branch to maintain confidential communications under certain circumstances within the executive branch and to resist some subpoenas and other oversight by the legislative and judicial branches of government in pursuit of particular information or personnel relating to those confidential communications. The right comes into effect when revealing information would impair governmental functions. Neither executive privilege nor the oversight power of Congress is explicitly mentioned in the United States Constitution. However, the Supreme Court of the United States has ruled that executive privilege and congressional oversight each are a consequence of the doctrine of the separation of powers, derived from the supremacy of each branch in its own area of Constitutional activity.

Teachers are underpaid but I am not paid at all for educating you.

Actually, President Trump was not obligated to send the aid until September 30th. He sent the money on September 11th. The case is extremely weak.

The Democrats know they have no chance to remove him from office. They just wanted to give him a black eye by having the House Impeach him. Hoping that they could use that as an issue in the 2020 election because they cannot run against his economy.

Innocent? Innocent of what? He's not been accused of a crime. Just when you thought the Ds couldn't get more ridiculous. They have impeached a POTUS while not charging him with a crime. Think about that for a minute...it's ridiculous. And in classic Dem double-down, they want the Senate to look for something the House couldn't find.

Now the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court has to come in and oversee a Senate trial where no crime has been accused. This whole thing has been a joke from start to perpetuity.

Don't be silly.

Here is Trump's government saying he broke the law:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/16/politics/...-aid/index.html


Here are the charges (CRIMES) he charged with:

Trump Impeached for Abuse of Power and Obstruction of Congress

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/18/us/politics/trump-impeached.html

Take a break from the Trumpian Kool Aid bro...

Executive Privilege is No Bar to Testimony Before Impeachment Investigators

https://www.justsecurity.org/66941/execu...-investigators/

https://www.foxnews.com/media/trump-impeachment-doug-collins-mark-levin-steny-hoyer-innocence

Have the Democrats became full Communists now? Or have they became what they supposedly hated "Nazi's".

They say they are protecting the Constitution but forget what rights other people have. Blinded by their hate. First Kavanaugh and now President Trump. What happened to Innocent until proven Guilty, They are tryinh to change it to guilty until proven innocent. Very Scary!!!

who are these two clowns and why should i care about their opinion?

Because they are saying that a Democratic Congressman said Trump must prove he is innocent. That is not true in the United States the prosecutes must provide evidence without a shadow of a doubt that he is guilty. Why, because in a non communist country people even a President that you hate is innocent until proven guilty.

did trump extend that same courtesy to the central park 5? who he accused of being guilty, and still does despite the opposite?

Trump and the republicans cant even practice what they preach. also, this isnt a criminal trial, so typical aspects of a criminal trial doesnt apply here.

so i ask again, who are these two clowns and why should i care about their opinion?

The Central Park 5 is guolty as sin. The victim is being victimized again by them being set free.

wanna know how you're lying? you couldn't even spell 'guilty' correctly while typing that nonsense out.

lol anyways, cant wait for the trial to begin. hopefully we get to see witnesses.

Be ready, Trump and his Lawyers are about to rush into this circus impeachment and tear some people new butts!

The Dream Team is assembled and coming for blood.

This should be wild!

Only the guilty hide.... Trump is always trying to hide.

He's being tried in the senate. There is a slim (to no) chance he'll be removed.

If these people that he blocks from coming forward were able to show that he didn't nothing wrong, the time to bring them forward would have been when the impeachment hearings were getting started.

But no, he didn't do that did he?

Why? Because he doesn't have to? perhaps, but the republicans keep talking about all the time and money the Dems are wasting.. They could have saved the country time and money had he let them speak..

By the way, did you read what you quoted?

"Executive privilege is the right of the president of the United States and other members of the executive branch to maintain confidential communications under certain circumstances within the executive branch and to resist some subpoenas "

UNDER CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES

It doesn't say under any and all circumstances....

Wanna know how many witnesses were protected by Clinton?

NONE

Wanna know how many documents were held protected by Clinton?

NONE.

Trump is so worried about his history and legacy, yet, faced with the opportunity to defend himself with evidence and testimony, he hides it all.

One item, namely the actual transcript of the phone call with the Ukraine President that touched off this bruhaha, are now kept in a locked super secret. May not be seen for years and years.

Those that oppose Trump aren't the ignorant ones.. People that defend him using lame excuses are the ignorant ones.

That's what O.J. called his team of lawyers too and we all know he was innocent.

It's so funny watching the clown show make excuses for why Trump has obstructed every witness form testifying he knows will prove him guilty.

What is really funny is watching you guys showing your true colors...

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., the number-two Democrat in the House, defended the House's impeachment inquiry last month by remarking that Trump was afforded "every opportunity to prove his innocence."

"We allowed him every opportunity to come prove his innocence,"???

Since when does the Constitution demand Guilty until Proven Innocent?

This is a very revealing statement for anybody who's concerned about Constitutional rights!

SHAME!

How many times must so many different people explain to you about how the Senate trial is when the framers designed the accused to prove their innocence?

For someone who claims they're on the side of the constitution, you sure show incompetence in understanding the articles that protect our republic?

In his answer to the impeachment articles -- also filed Saturday -- Trump and his attorneys argued that he committed no wrongdoing when it comes to his dealings with Ukraine, claiming that he did not pressure Ukrainian President Volodydmyr Zelensky into conducting investigations into political rivals, and that the military aid was released without any investigations being announced.

Additionally, Trump argues that the obstruction of Congress charge is meritless because his instructions for witnesses like Bolton not to testify were done under executive privilege, and House Democrats who claimed this was improper never allowed the courts to make a ruling on the matter because they either withdrew subpoenas or opted not to issue them.

-The Dream Team

He's not on the side of the Constitution. He's on the side of Trump. He will happily (and has) pee all over the truth, the Constitution and America in his thoughtless loyalty to Trump.

40,

Please show me where in the constitution that it states an impeach President must sit before the House of Representatives.

Your unbridled hate, ignorance of the Constitution and Bill of Rights will lead to further embarrassment as this Nation does not run on the false accusations of the mob.

We stand for Due Process!

Google search it.

Please give citation as to where it says The President who may be impeached sits in-front of The House of Representatives.

Till you do this, I'll continue to ask each time you wish to spread more false narratives.

Ummm, he never once claimed executive privilege via any kind of normal channel. Not once.