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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
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Maybe I am mistaken, the picture wasn't taken in school or on its premises, why would what the girl does outside of school pertain to that?


Because their goal is not only to control your education, but also your entire life. Indoctrination runs deep.


The other line of thinking is this:

The church views are that homosexuality is a sin, right? Lets not really argue that right now though - just follow me.

If homosexuality is a sin, shouldn't the church and school want the child to be there so they can assist them and help through it, if that's the case? (don't take this as I am agreeing its a sin or that it can be "cured" - just making a point).

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I think the school saw her as promoting homosexuality.

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Where the disonnect comes for me is pretty simple.

Jumping to the conclusion that a person is gay or supports the LBGTQ community based on having a rainbow on your sweater and having a rainbow cake are a one helluva homophobic bunch of people.


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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
I think the school saw her as promoting homosexuality.



And here is another dilemma though, this wasn't on school property or during school hours - what does it matter?

I remember a lot of folks who said (myself included) during threads of when a kid posted a picture of his hunting rifle and was threatened to be suspended that the school was wrong because he was at home and not posting while at school or on school property, they shouldn't be allowed to make that case against him. Why should they against this girl?

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
I think the school saw her as promoting homosexuality.


I didn't know the Baptist Church forbid rainbows. I'm sure they have a scripture for that, right?

They better inform God about it. I mean according to that line of thinking God promotes homosexuality after every rain storm.


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According to the bible, god makes everything which would include homosexuals. If he didn't want/love them, why would he make them?

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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
According to the bible, god makes everything which would include homosexuals. If he didn't want/love them, why would he make them?


My brother once told me which cracks me up to this day:


Hey, gay guys are ok in my book - not only does it take someone with style and fashion out of the picture for women and leave them with me, they are taking another guy out the picture as well rofl

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Originally Posted By: willitevachange
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I think the school saw her as promoting homosexuality.



And here is another dilemma though, this wasn't on school property or during school hours - what does it matter?

I remember a lot of folks who said (myself included) during threads of when a kid posted a picture of his hunting rifle and was threatened to be suspended that the school was wrong because he was at home and not posting while at school or on school property, they shouldn't be allowed to make that case against him. Why should they against this girl?


I agree but you would have to ask the school about their rules.

People pay to send their kids there because of the lifestyle and those rules.

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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
According to the bible, god makes everything which would include homosexuals. If he didn't want/love them, why would he make them?


You are right God loves them very much. It is the sin he does not like. With that being said being gay is no more a sin in God's eyes than being straight and having sex with someone other than your spouse. A sin is a sin.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
be quiet, Willit. youre not allowed to criticize them unless you also criticize the other crazy ass religions in countries we dont live in.


How about the flying purple cookie monster some people talk about on the board. Is he fair game wink


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You are right God loves them very much. It is the sin he does not like. With that being said being gay is no more a sin in God's eyes than being straight and having sex with someone other than your spouse. A sin is a sin.


Many people forget that even lusting after a woman is a sin, and their is not a man alive who has not lusted after a woman he was not married to. Some guys do it 10 times a day.


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You are right God loves them very much. It is the sin he does not like. With that being said being gay is no more a sin in God's eyes than being straight and having sex with someone other than your spouse. A sin is a sin.


Many people forget that even lusting after a woman is a sin, and their is not a man alive who has not lusted after a woman he was not married to. Some guys do it 10 times a day.


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Originally Posted By: GMdawg
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be quiet, Willit. youre not allowed to criticize them unless you also criticize the other crazy ass religions in countries we dont live in.


How about the flying purple cookie monster some people talk about on the board. Is he fair game wink


anybody is fair game. dunno how scientology has dodged the bullet around here, for example.


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Originally Posted By: Day of the Dawg
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According to the bible, god makes everything which would include homosexuals. If he didn't want/love them, why would he make them?


You are right God loves them very much. It is the sin he does not like. With that being said being gay is no more a sin in God's eyes than being straight and having sex with someone other than your spouse. A sin is a sin.

I think you just said anyone who is gay is therefore sinful.
I guess I shouldn't be shocked.
No doubt you think they have a choice.
No doubt I should go and remove the purple font for the "electric shock" comment I made. smdh

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Originally Posted By: Clemdawg


These folks are as good (and as bad) as You and I.
Nothing more/nothing less.


Um. This.

https://www.dawgtalkers.net/ubbthreads.ph...ack#Post1688491

I would hope that both you and I are better than this Muslim.
Who might live in your neighborhood.
That you went on and on about.

It's kind of funny. Liberals want to believe in some white washed version of Islam. That exists in the USA.

It really doesn't. Islam is just a secret. That you are not privy to.


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Umm...did you not see Clem’s post in that thread?

Can somebody explain what Eve’s entire point is, please? She’s rambling on about something that nobody is disagreeing with her about.


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Umm...did you not see Clem’s post in that thread?

Can somebody explain what Eve’s entire point is, please? She’s rambling on about something that nobody is disagreeing with her about.


Yet clearly it has you #triggered

I feel my points are fairly obvious. Remove the blinders.


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anybody is fair game. dunno how scientology has dodged the bullet around here, for example.


That's my fault. I can't spell scentolgy, scintolgy, scienoogy. See what I mean.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
Can somebody explain what Eve’s entire point is, please? She’s rambling on about something that nobody is disagreeing with her about.


She's trying to use the fact that Muslims are worse about homosexuality in some feeble attempt to excuse those among us who are prejudice. It's like saying, "Well they're worse so it makes what we do okay".

You know, grade school BS.


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
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Can somebody explain what Eve’s entire point is, please? She’s rambling on about something that nobody is disagreeing with her about.


She's trying to use the fact that Muslims are worse about homosexuality in some feeble attempt to excuse those among us who are prejudice. It's like saying, "Well they're worse so it makes what we do okay".

You know, grade school BS.


Actually that's not what I'm doing. Too bad you and Swish are too dense to figure it out.

All I'm doing is pointing out your hypocrisy.


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I knew it all along and enjoyed watching.

It was like watching the Master feeding her pet Koi.

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Muslims had nothing to do with this thread. There is no hypocrisy. Nobody disagrees with you about how terribly the Muslim religion is towards gay people.

But you just keep doing you....


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exactly. she's arguing points nobody is disagreeing with her about, then turning around and trying to claim we're hypocrites.

and to make this even more odd, she acts like she cant make her own thread and post all the horrible crap that happens under islam and other religions.

that tends to happen with crazy cat ladies, though.


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Muslims had nothing to do with this thread. There is no hypocrisy. Nobody disagrees with you about how terribly the Muslim religion is towards gay people.

But you just keep doing you....


It is hypocrisy. When is the last time any of you hypocrites ever started a thread about how Muslims treat gays and women?


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Muslims had nothing to do with this thread. There is no hypocrisy. Nobody disagrees with you about how terribly the Muslim religion is towards gay people.

But you just keep doing you....


It is hypocrisy. When is the last time any of you hypocrites ever started a thread about how Muslims treat gays and women?



when is the last time YOU did? all this whining and you still havent done it yet.


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Muslims had nothing to do with this thread. There is no hypocrisy. Nobody disagrees with you about how terribly the Muslim religion is towards gay people.

But you just keep doing you....


It is hypocrisy. When is the last time any of you hypocrites ever started a thread about how Muslims treat gays and women?



when is the last time YOU did? all this whining and you still havent done it yet.


Never, because it would fall on deaf ears.


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thats a lie. but regardless, if youre not willing to be the change youre advocating for....hush.


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On The Supreme Court’s Docket: Forcing Taxpayers To Pay For Religious Education And Discrimination

Jan 15, 2020 by Rob Boston
One week from today, the U.S. Supreme Court will hear oral arguments in an important case dealing with whether taxpayers can be forced to fund religious education and religious discrimination.

The case, Espinoza v. Montana Department of Revenue, began after Montana legislators passed a neo-voucher scheme called the Montana Tax Credit Scholarship Program in 2015. Similar to programs proposed in other states, the convoluted plan funneled taxpayer money into the coffers of private religious schools.

It’s clear what Big Sky lawmakers were up to: They wanted to subsidize private religious education, even though Montana’s Constitution contains a provision explicitly protecting residents from being forced to support “direct or indirect” tax aid for religious purposes.

The Montana Supreme Court correctly struck down the plan, calling it a clear violation of the state constitution. More than 90 percent of private school vouchers in Montana funded private religious schools, and 70 percent of all private schools in the state teach a religious curriculum.

The U.S. Supreme Court now will hear the case, which is troubling. The high court’s decision could set a dangerous precedent, eroding church-state separation not just in Montana, but in three-quarters of U.S. states. Voucher proponents have made it crystal clear that they want to pave the way for private school voucher schemes across the country by gutting the religious freedom provisions that exist in the constitutions of at least 37 states.

Not only do private school voucher programs force taxpayers to fund religious education, but they also force taxpayers to fund discrimination. Private religious schools have free rein to discriminate against children and families if they don’t share the school’s religious beliefs, if a student or parent is LGBTQ, if the child has a disability, or if they don’t follow a school’s religious tenets such as accepting Jesus Christ as their personal savior or having premarital sex.

AU’s research shows that of the 12 religious schools participating in Montana’s voucher program, at least 10 had discriminatory policies.

In November, Americans United, joined by 17 other civil rights and religious freedom organizations, filed a legal brief urging the high court to respect the traditional American principle of religious freedom.

“The founders believed that it was critical to protect individuals’ freedom of conscience against the coercive extraction of tax funds to support religion,” observes the brief. “They also thought it vital to shield religion and religious institutions from the deleterious effects of governmental support and interference: dependency of religious institutions on the state, compromise of religious beliefs, and strife among religious denominations. They therefore exhorted against public subsidies for religious ministries – including religious education, which is not only a vital function of religious ministries but also essential to generating adherents and maintaining those ministries over time and across communities.”

Never before has the Supreme Court ruled that states must fund religious education. It would be an extraordinary federal intrusion into the constitutional and public education affairs of our states.

We must protect the precedent that all states have the right to ensure taxpayer dollars are not used to fund religious education. This is the core of our fundamental American principle of religious freedom – that everyone has the right to support their faith, or no faith at all, as long as they don’t harm others.

The U.S. Supreme Court should uphold the founders’ vision and make it clear that forcing Americans to pay for someone else’s religion is fundamentally unconstitutional and un-American.

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
I think the school saw her as promoting homosexuality.



Oh lord heaven forbid! willynilly Ban images of unicorns and tinker bell next.


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So let's see here.....

You think there should be a thread about how Muslims persecute the gay community. You refuse to post one but instead complain about how others don't post one.

That kind of sounds like complaining about the neighbors grass being two feet high when your own grass needs to be mowed.

The thing is, some people want their own house to be in good order first, before complaining about the neighbor.


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
So let's see here.....

You think there should be a thread about how Muslims persecute the gay community. You refuse to post one but instead complain about how others don't post one.

That kind of sounds like complaining about the neighbors grass being two feet high when your own grass needs to be mowed.

The thing is, some people want their own house to be in good order first, before complaining about the neighbor.


I haven't posted one because I don't care enough at the present moment. My life is busy. I have a lot of things going on. And posting on this forum is on the backburner for now.

I don't have all the time in the world to bicker with you. It's more convenient to do it in this thread. Sorry if that's not a good enough answer for you but it is what it is.


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Yet you have all the time in the world to give WHATABOUTS and concern troll in the majority of these threads.

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Troll in the majority of what threads?

I haven't been around much.

You sound #Triggered.


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Originally Posted By: EveDawg

I haven't posted one because I don't care enough at the present moment. My life is busy. I have a lot of things going on. And posting on this forum is on the backburner for now.

I don't have all the time in the world to bicker with you. It's more convenient to do it in this thread. Sorry if that's not a good enough answer for you but it is what it is.


You have found plenty of time to come here and complain about something "you don't care enough about at the present time", yet claim you don't have enough time to make a thread about it? Hmmmm....

I don't think that hogwash is good enough for anyone.


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