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I read that in the Newspaper!
Unfortunately it was the Zombie Gazette.

Why am I not surprised you have a subscription to that paper?

Walmart has treadmills!

Did I say anywhere that I have a subscription?

I said I read it. Nice "Twist" though.

I wouldn't admit it either if I were you.

What I would love to get an answer too is why in the hell do americans feel the need to travel to china or to any other country?

To get Chinese food of course!

Some people travel there for business and some people actually enjoy learning about the culture of other people. Our nation is less than 300 years old. There is much we can actually learn from the rest of the globe if we didn't think we knew every damned thing like teenagers do.

and we can learn that without bringing back deadly diseases from other countries.

Some enjoy history. Love seeing the world and other cultures, etc.

I always have wanted to see Greece as I have always had a fondness of Greek Mythology. There is only so much you can learn form pictures. Seeing Olympia on wiki and being there I would wager offer an entirely different learning process and appreciation.

That's fine with me. I can respect that, but as for me I have zero interest in going anywhere outside of the good old USA

In that case, I wouldn't travel the world and experience different cultures then.

I am fine with that, as we as Americans can't even understand the cultures of our neighbors. IMO we should worry more about that.

Because the world is an amazing place. Seeing other cultures makes us realize ours is just a small fraction of a much larger human story. To make us see that we’re all the same. Just people trying to get by. To open our minds to new experiences. To get outside our comfort zones.
I can’t understand why one wouldn’t want to travel. Such a small wasted life on such a large planet.

America is about a half second old in the greater human timeline experience. We have no culture. Travel and you’d see that.

Coronavirus in China: Officials rush to build hospital in six days
By Yaron Steinbuch January 24, 2020 | 7:56am

Hospital with 1,000 beds to be built in six days in Wuhan to tackle deadly coronavirus
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China is rushing to build a 1,000-bed hospital in just six days to treat patients at the epicenter of the new coronavirus, which has killed at least 26 people, infected about 830 and prompted lockdowns in at least a dozen cities, according to reports.

The 270,000-square-foot facility in Wuhan is expected to be up and running by Feb. 3 and will aim “to address the insufficiency of existing medical resources,” city officials said, according to the official Xinhua news agency.

On the eve of the Lunar New Year, transportation was shut down Friday in 12 cities with a total population of about 35 million, including Wuhan and its neighbors in central China’s Hubei province.

In 2003, China built a hospital on Beijing’s rural outskirts in barely a week to treat a rapidly rising number of people suffering from SARS, or severe acute respiratory syndrome, which killed 349 people in mainland China and 299 in Hong Kong.

Xiaotangshan Hospital was made of prefabricated structures and Xinhua reported Friday that Wuhan was building the new facility based on the same model.

The city of over 11 million residents has been centralizing its treatment of the coronavirus by isolating patients in 61 clinics and designated hospitals.

Officials have said the new virus probably originated from wild animals at a seafood market in Wuhan but it has since spread to several countries around Asia and beyond.

Meanwhile, at least eight hospitals in Wuhan issued calls for donations of masks, goggles, gowns and other protective gear, according to notices online.

Officials at Wuhan University People’s Hospital set up a group chat on the popular WeChat messaging app to coordinate the donations.

Enlarge ImageA nurse wears protective clothing to help stop the spread of the deadly coronavirus
A nurse wears protective clothing to help stop the spread of the deadly coronavirus.Getty Images
The “Fever Control Command Center” of the city of Huanggang also issued a call for donations publicized by the state-run People’s Daily, asking for medical supplies, medicine and disinfection equipment. The notice added that for now, they wouldn’t accept supplies from other countries.

The vast majority of cases were reported in and around Wuhan, but people who visited or had personal connections to infected people were among the scattered cases counted beyond the mainland.

South Korea and Japan both confirmed their second cases Friday and Singapore confirmed its third. Cases also have been detected in Hong Kong, Macao, Taiwan, Thailand and Vietnam.

One case also has turned up in the US. A Washington state man in his 30s has been diagnosed after returning from a solo trip to Wuhan.

Business.... vacation... visit family.... I have family that was born in china... my closest friend was born in china and still has family there.... there aren't several reason to travel the world...

I would t recommend going to china at this time unless you absolutely have to though....

Hey, let's all go to India. That's a great place!

I had a friend just get back from there a month or so ago. She, her sister, and her mother had an amazing time. It’s on my list, Granted not at the top.
An ancient culture. Amazing architecture. Incredible tile work in its religious structures. Awesome food. Certainly a place to challenge ones travel skills but worth it for sure.

J/C

The continued xenophobia in this thread really shouldn’t surprise me, right?

jc

I feel we should post even more xenophobia. Because watching a SJW act #Triggered is funny.

If you stand for nothing Burr, what will you fall for?

... The mind-melting hypocrisy of the Misery Merchants and Thought Police.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/22/world/wuhan-coronavirus-visual-guide-intl/index.html



A visual guide to the Wuhan coronavirus
By Tara John and Jack Guy, Graphics by CNN Visual News Team

Updated 10:50 AM ET, Sat January 25, 2020

An outbreak of new coronavirus has sickened about 1,400 people worldwide and killed at least 41 in mainland China, while spreading to countries around the world.

Its emergence has fueled fears of a deadly epidemic as hundreds of millions of people travel in China, or around the Asian region, during the Lunar New Year holiday.
What is the virus?

Coronavirus is a large family of viruses, which include severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) and Middle East respiratory syndrome (MERS).
Common symptoms include a runny nose, cough, sore throat, and possibly a headache. Those who have a weakened immune system, particularly the young and the elderly, are at risk of the virus turning into a more serious respiratory tract illness.
Authorities said the Wuhan coronavirus was passed from animals to humans; can be spread from person to person; and appears to cause pneumonia in people who have weakened immune systems.

It is thought to be milder that SARS and MERS and take longer to develop symptoms. Patients to date have typically experienced a mild cough for a week followed by shortness of breath, causing them to visit a hospital.
Experts are now trying to understand how it is being transmitted, who is at most risk and whether transmission is occurring mostly in hospitals or in the community.
In one instance, 14 doctors and nurses operating on a patient -- who was not known to be carrying the virus -- were all infected with it, suggesting it can be spread relatively easily.
Where is this happening?
Where it started: Ground zero
The outbreak emerged last month in the largest city in central China, Wuhan, a city of 11 million people in Hubei province.
Officials linked it to Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market, saying wild animals sold there are the likely source of the virus. The market has been closed since January 1 for disinfection and officials are scrambling to discover its animal source.
Snakes -- the Chinese krait and the Chinese cobra -- may be responsible for transmitting coronavirus to humans.
Scientists in China say that the virus might have jumped from bats to snakes, which were sold in the local seafood market in Wuhan, and then to humans.

However, how the virus could adapt to both the cold-blooded and warm-blooded hosts remains a mystery, and further tests are necessary to determine the source animal.
At least 30 people died in the province, many of them elderly and suffering from pre-existing conditions.
As deaths mount in the city, officials imposed a number of new measures including the postponement of New Year celebrations in Wuhan, a ban on tour agencies from bringing groups of people out of the city and thermal monitors and screening in public spaces.
Regional spread
From the first reported case in December, in Hubei province, the virus has spread to almost all of China's administrative regions this week.
The country has adopted prevention and control measures that are typically used for major outbreaks such as plague and cholera. This means health officials will get sweeping powers to lock down affected areas and quarantine patients.
Wuhan "temporarily" closed its airport and railway stations on Thursday for departing passengers, and all public transport services are suspended until further notice.
The city's coronavirus task force also announced the closure of highways out of the city.

Meanwhile, the city made it mandatory for everyone to wear face masks in public places after confirmed coronavirus cases passed the 500 mark.
Unprecedented lockdown
Authorities in China have imposed indefinite travel restrictions in 15 cities in Hubei province, the most affected area in the country, impacting an estimated 32 million people.
Wuhan, a city of 11 million, is under effective lockdown, with all public transport in and out of the city closed.
Other cities across the province are under less severe travel restrictions.
A global threat: Confirmed cases around the world
The virus has spread well beyond mainland China, so far to 13 places including Hong Kong, Macau, Taiwan, Singapore, South Korea, Thailand, Japan, Vietnam, Australia and the United States.
Airports around the world have increased health screenings and implemented new quarantine procedures as officials race to slow the spread of the virus.
Various countries, including the US and the UK, have also issued travel advisories for Wuhan.
International flights from Wuhan
Wuhan is a major transportation hub.
Not only is the city a center for China's high-speed rail network, it has flights going to more than 60 international destinations from Tianhe International Airport.
On Thursday, as confirmed cases ramped up across the country, government officials announced the temporary closure of Wuhan's airport and railway stations.
All train tickets in and out of Wuhan have also been suspended, while multiple international airlines have canceled flights to the city.
China has encouraged passengers traveling to and from Wuhan to change their travel plans during the busy Lunar New Year holiday period, by exempting them from service charges for refunds for all modes of transport.
How does this compare to the SARS virus?
Scientists say the infectiousness of the virus is not as strong as SARS, but have added that the number of people infected is climbing.
A study by researchers in the UK estimated that the number of infections in Wuhan is still grossly underestimated, with the real number closer to 4,000 as of January 18, based on the spread of the virus to other cities and countries in a relatively short period of time.
SARS infected more than 8,000 people and killed 774 in a pandemic that ripped through Asia in 2002 and 2003.
On Thursday, David Heymann, the chairman of a World Health Organization committee gathering data on the outbreak, said the virus spreads more easily from person to person than previously thought.
But there is still much that is not known about the virus and, as the above graphic shows, its death rate is far smaller than that seen during the SARS outbreak.

Traveling abroad is not for everyone, and most can afford to do it until they are older, and I can tell you that most places in the rest of the world are not accessible to people with difficulties getting around.

But pictures and books don't do things like Venice, the Roman Colosseum, Tower of Pisa, Castles of Scotland, Ireland's countryside, Fjords of Norway, windmills in Amsterdam.

Not to mention the many wonderful people I've had the pleasure of meeting. The crap about everyone hating Americans is BS, most have no issues with us and have a lot of curiosity about our lives, as we do them.


My wife and I are trying to get in all the international travel now, and saving RVing around America for when we retire.

j/c

They've know found that the virus can spread before any symptoms show. So all of those scenes of people's temperatures being taken at airports did nothing to prevent the spread of the virus....

China coronavirus 'spreads before symptoms show'

A new coronavirus that has spread to more than 2,000 people is infectious in its incubation period - before symptoms show - making it harder to contain, Chinese officials say.

Fifty-six people have died from the virus. Health minister Ma Xiaowei told reporters the ability of the virus to spread appeared to be strengthening.

Several Chinese cities have imposed significant travel restrictions.

Wuhan in Hubei, the source of the outbreak, is in effective lockdown.

The infections were at a "crucial stage of containment", Ma Xiaowei said.

Officials announced that the sale of all wildlife in China would be banned from Sunday. The virus is thought to have originated in animals, but no cause has been officially identified.

In humans, the incubation period - during which a person has the disease, but no symptoms yet - ranges from between one and 14 days, officials believe.

Without symptoms, a person may not know they have the infection, but still be able to spread it.

This is a significant development in our understanding of the virus and the lengths China will have to go to, to stop it.

People with Sars (the last deadly coronavirus outbreak to hit China) and Ebola are contagious only when symptoms appear.

Such outbreaks are relatively easy to stop - identify and isolate people who are sick and monitor anyone they came into contact with.

Flu, however, is the most famous example of a virus that you spread before you even know you're ill.

We are not at the stage where people are saying this could be a global pandemic like swine flu.

But stopping such "symptomless spreaders" will make the job of the Chinese authorities much harder.

There are still crucial questions - how infectious are people during the incubation period, and did any of the patients outside China spread the disease in those countries before becoming sick?

And why did China's National Health Commission say the transmission ability of this virus is getting stronger?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51254523

GM's original post was about how he doesn't understand how people would want to travel to China. That's not xenophobia, especially in a thread dedicated to a super dangerous and contagious health scare. He followed up with saying he's perfectly happy staying right here.

While you may not agree (neither do I) that opinion is perfectly valid. He said nothing about the people, simply stated his not wanting to travel.

My turn... what I don't understand is someone having such a large amount of outrage that it spills over into like it has here.

There are a lot of places I would love to see, if I were able to travel.

I would love to see the Pyramids in person...

the city underneath modern day Istanbul ...

the churches in the Czech Republic ...

Big Ben .....

The Outback ...

The Wailing Wall ...

And others, including the Aztec and Mayan ruins in Mexico.

Unfortunately, the only way I will likely see these sites is on the internet. Fortunately, we live in an age where so much is available to see online.

Or Trump's Twitter feed.

Read today that the guy who modeled the sars and bird flu outbreak in China thinks this will not peak until mid April-

Thanks.

From what I've been told, I'm not out of the woods yet as there is a 2 week incubation period. Not sure how true that is, but I'll be keeping an eye on things for a week or so still (2 weeks is Superbowl Sunday)

Here is a Johns Hopkins dashboard that is tracking confirmed cases

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

Tears, fear and panic grip China as coronavirus spreads
By Alice Su, Los Angeles Times 2 hrs ago
a group of people posing for the camera: Commuters arriving in Hong Kong wear facemasks as they pass the cross boundary restricted area inside the high-speed train station connecting Hong Kong to mainland China during a public holiday in celebration of the Lunar New Year in Hong Kong on Jan. 28, 2020, as a preventative measure following a virus outbreak which began in the Chinese city of Wuhan.
© Anthony Wallace/AFP/Getty Images AsiaPac/TNS
Commuters arriving in Hong Kong wear facemasks as they pass the cross boundary restricted area inside the high-speed train station connecting Hong Kong to mainland China during a public holiday in celebration of the Lunar New Year in Hong Kong on Jan. 28, 2020, as a preventative measure following a virus outbreak which began in the Chinese city of Wuhan.
BEIJING — The man burst out with a shout at the last second as medical workers boarded a bus headed to Wuhan: “[censored] Yuehua, I love you!”

He sobbed, gasping, as his wife joined an emergency response team headed to the deadly new coronavirus that has killed at least 100 patients and infected more than 4,500 people across China. Reported cases are rising every day — more than 60% in the last 24 hours alone.

A nurse patted the man on the shoulder as he lowered his head, heaving. Another woman came by and murmured to him as he cried, “I know, I know, I can’t control it.”

The nurse next to him began to weep as well, wiping her face as the bus pulled away, loaded with colleagues and loved ones venturing on a perilous journey into an epidemic. At least 15 medical workers have been infected and one has died after treating coronavirus patients in Wuhan.

The 52-member group from Henan departed by bus Sunday, according to a Henan University report, joining more than 6,000 medical workers who’ve been dispatched from every province except Tibet and Hubei (where Wuhan is located) to relieve doctors and nurses in Wuhan.


Shared grief, suspicion and multiplying tensions have seized this nation. Since the central government takeover of China’s virus response last week, state media has broadcast a steady stream of inspirational reports about heroic Chinese people uniting to fight the unseen enemy, confident in the party’s leadership. Over and over again, the government repeats: Trust us. Be calm. Wash your hands. Stay home.

A construction worker carries materials as new hospitals are built to tackle the coronavirus on Jan. 28, 2020 in Wuhan, China. Wuhan Huoshenshan hospital will reportedly be ready for use on February 3rd with the capacity of 1000 beds.
© Getty Images/Getty Images AsiaPac/TNS A construction worker carries materials as new hospitals are built to tackle the coronavirus on Jan. 28, 2020 in Wuhan, China. Wuhan Huoshenshan hospital will reportedly be ready for use on February 3rd with the capacity of 1000 beds.
But offscreen, China’s virus war is grim. Silent cities sit in a white winter smog that blots out the sky, their silent, empty streets contrasting with the crowded hospitals where doctors and nurses break down because they lack equipment or rooms for the patients squeezed outside their doors.

In rural areas, many villagers blockade and guard village entrances to prevent outsiders — especially Hubei people — from entering.

Online, desperate posts sprout up daily from people begging for help because sick family members are not being admitted into hospitals.

Fear lurks in the background of even healthy people’s minds, inflated by the proximity of death, fragility of loved ones, and most of all by the unknown: where the virus comes from, how it changes, how it spreads, whether one has it or not, and whether authorities are providing the full truth. It is a country of fretful eyes peering out over surgical masks.

For those in China and especially in Wuhan, the tick-tock unease is worsened by uncertainty in what the government says, based on past experience of inaccurate reporting on death numbers and infection rates in other preventable tragedies, including SARS and the Great Leap Forward famine.

National health commissioner Jiao Yahui said at a news briefing Wednesday in Beijing that the issue of insufficient hospital beds was a question of “great importance” and “national concern,” adding that two hospitals are under construction and should provide 2,300 new beds when they are completed in early February.

Other hospitals in Wuhan are also supposed to open up space to patients, Jiao said, providing 10,000 beds in total — “more than enough” for suspected as well as confirmed cases.

But the virus is spreading, and residents in Wuhan with sick family members say they are unable to receive diagnostic tests or secure hospital space for their relatives, even when doctors tell them they are likely infected with the new virus.

A woman in Wuhan surnamed Sun, 32, said in a phone interview that her husband, 34, has been sick since Jan. 15, first with a fever and cough, then with a lung infection that a doctor said was likely caused by the coronavirus.

“Of course we couldn’t guess it was something so bad. We didn’t know,” Sun said, adding that her husband works in Wuhan’s Hankou district, where the Huanan Seafood Market, the suspected source of the coronavirus outbreak, is located.

He’d even attended his company’s Lunar New Year banquet near that market, Sun said, when Chinese officials were still claiming that the virus was not transmissible between humans. Since then, his symptoms have escalated from high fever, coughing and fatigue to breathing problems. Sun’s parents, who live with them, have both caught fevers as well.

Her mother, 65, has developed a lung infection, and her father, 67, who had preexisting health problems including diabetes and high blood pressure, has a similar profile to elderly coronavirus victims who have died.

This whole time, Sun has not been able to get her family tested for the coronavirus, she said, because the doctors told her they had no test kits. Without confirmation of whether her husband has the virus, his death would go unreported as either a new virus case or death.

But her priority now is just to get him into a hospital, no matter how the government wants to classify him.

Ten days ago, Sun filled out an application for her husband’s hospitalization. The city has since designated specific hospitals for suspected coronavirus patients. That means she has to register her husband with a neighborhood committee first, which then reports the name to the hospital.

Every day is a disconcerting maze: The hospital tells Sun that her husband’s name is not on the list. She goes to the committee, which insists they reported his name. She asks the hospital, which says: no name. She goes back to the committee, and repeats the cycle.

Meanwhile, her husband can’t catch his breath.

“We’ve been telling the hospital, and they say, ‘There’s nothing we can do,’” she said.

Sun said she’d just bought an oxygen device that aids breathing on Wednesday, and was reading its instruction manual. Two days ago, she sent her 3-year-old daughter to her sister’s apartment, choosing to separate from her child rather than risk her getting sick.

At home, Sun self-isolates in a separate room from her stricken husband, mother and father. She asks for help online several times a day.

Yesterday, her daughter started having a fever, too.

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only ~6200 cases.
This thing is moving WAY too slowly.

Pitter Patter, China.

I think I caught something yesterday, usualy can tell when I get first contact, the last several times I've had the flu, I can tell the instant it happens.

Had a mild spell of the flu between Thanksgiving and Christmas, and was over it until yesterday, I felt it, then, wasn't sure, until yep, today is the first day, and this is a different sickness than usual.
Milder, still the symptoms are there, and the biggest thing is the massive sneezing that occurs a couple hours apart, a slight fever first noticed just as I typed this,
and a constant sore throat that's not actually sore as it usually is.

Maybe this is just the 2nd strain of the flu, that I read about when reading about the 1918 flu, or maybe it's sars-corona, maybe they are just 2 names for the same thing.
The person that infected me could have been from anywhere, but I wasn't in China anytime.

These things usually last about 10-12 days, hopefully I can get over this.

Sounds like the story I read about 2 days ago on the 1918 flu killing 50 million,
50 million in 1918 would be like 400 million today.

The website today didn't update since lunch-i thought maybe there was a lull. Unfortunately Wrong.

Just updated about 20 minutes ago-the number of cases went up to about 7800 and the deaths rose to 170

I just saw when i was looking at the virus stats that some health professionals that model this stuff say that this transmits like the 1918 flu...but i think our health care system is a little better than then