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Originally Posted By: guard dawg
I think you would have to know who is available at 10 before making that deal. From the Raiders perspective, if Herbert were to get past the Chargers I don't see any impediments to him being available at 12. But if they wanted to trade with the Browns we should get a premium for it. So they get 10 and we should demand picks 12, 80 and 91 in return. JMHO.


If we can get a trade #10 with LV, then lets get #12, #80, #81 ...... or heck let’s just trade them OBJ for #12, 80 and 91 smile

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Has trading down ever worked out for us?

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Still salty about Julio Jones, I see smile


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Round 1 Pick 15 (DEN): Mekhi Becton, OT, Louisville (B)
Round 2 Pick 9: Josh Jones, OT, Houston (B)
Round 2 Pick 14 (DEN): Patrick Queen, ILB, LSU (A)
Round 3 Pick 10: Ross Blacklock, DT, TCU (A)
Round 3 Pick 16 (L.V.): Damon Arnette, CB, Ohio State (A)
Round 3 Pick 21 (PHI): Antoine Winfield Jr., FS/SS, Minnesota (A+)
Round 3 Pick 26: KJ Hill, WR, Ohio State (A)
Round 4 Pick 9: Rashard Lawrence, DT/DE, LSU (A+)
Round 4 Pick 16 (IND): Joe Bachie, OLB, Michigan State (A+)
Round 4 Pick 31 (DEN): Denzel Mims, WR, Baylor (A+)
Round 6 Pick 8: Damien Lewis, OG, LSU (A+)
Round 7 Pick 30: Benito Jones, DT, Mississippi (A+)


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That’s a heck of a draft IMO


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I agree that looks great. Unfortunately, I'm not sure any of those players will make it to where you picked them.


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Here is a mock with no trades

Round 1 Pick 10: Jedrick Wills, OT, Alabama (A+)
Round 2 Pick 9: Ashtyn Davis, FS/SS, California (B+)
Round 3 Pick 10: Kenny Willekes, DE/OLB, Michigan State (A)
Round 3 Pick 26: Malik Harrison, ILB/OLB, Ohio State (A)
Round 4 Pick 9: Colby Parkinson, TE, Stanford (A+)
Round 6 Pick 8: Khalil Davis, DT, Nebraska (A+)
Round 7 Pick 30: Gabriel Davis, WR, Central Florida (A+)



Here is a mock with trading down after Rd. 1 with Houston Minnesota and the Raiders ...

Round 1 Pick 10: Jedrick Wills, OT, Alabama (A+)
Round 2 Pick 25 (HOU): Antoine Winfield Jr., FS/SS, Minnesota (A)
Round 3 Pick 10: Kenny Willekes, DE/OLB, Michigan State (A)
Round 3 Pick 25 (MINN): Malik Harrison, ILB/OLB, Ohio State (A)
Round 3 Pick 26: Brycen Hopkins, TE, Purdue (A+)
Round 3 Pick 37 (HOU): Yasir Durant, OT, Missouri (A+)
Round 4 Pick 9: KJ Hill, WR, Ohio State (A+)
Round 4 Pick 15 (L.V.): Larrell Murchison, DT, NC State (A+)
Round 4 Pick 25 (HOU): AJ Dillon, RB, Boston College (A+)
Round 4 Pick 35 (MINN): Lavert Hill, CB, Michigan (A+)
Round 6 Pick 8: Rick Wade, DE/OLB, UCLA (A+)
Round 7 Pick 30: Luke Farrell, TE, Ohio State (A)

Here is a mock where I traded our 1st (10) Next years 1st (2021) and our 6th and 7th Rounders to move to #2 and take Chase Young to play opposite Myles Garrett smile Then Traded down with Indy the Jets Arizona and Denver to pick extra picks ...

Round 1 Pick 2 (WASH): Chase Young, DE/OLB, Ohio State (A+)
Round 2 Pick 16 (NYJ): Antoine Winfield Jr., FS/SS, Minnesota (A)
Round 3 Pick 8 (ARI): Jacob Phillips, ILB/OLB, LSU (A-)
Round 3 Pick 11 (IND): Isaiah Wilson, OT, Georgia (A+)
Round 3 Pick 15 (NYJ): Davon Hamilton, DT, Ohio State (A)
Round 3 Pick 26: Brycen Hopkins, TE, Purdue (A+)
Round 4 Pick 25 (HOU): Jauan Jennings, WR, Tennessee (A+)
Round 4 Pick 31 (DEN): Jabari Zuniga, DE/OLB, Florida (A+)
Round 5 Pick 32 (DEN): Cohl Cabral, C, Arizona State (A-)
Round 6 Pick 2 (DEN): Scott Lashley, OT, Alabama (A)


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Originally Posted By: Bull_Dawg
I agree that looks great. Unfortunately, I'm not sure any of those players will make it to where you picked them.


Yeah, fun, but impossible.


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1 Wirfs road grader for chubb.
2 Wilson right tackle another road grader.
3Fulton excellent value here
3 Gladney db first round talent that drops for off field concerns.
We trade are 4th and 6th for a 3rd draft Phillip's linebacker lsu.

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Decided to use TDN's draft simulator to avoid getting to cherry pick. Not all I wanted but I'd take it.

10-Jedrick Wills- OT-Alabaama
41- Kenneth Murray- LB- Oklahoma
74- Bryce Hall- CB- Virginia
90- Netane Mutani- OL- Fresno State
105- Kenny Willekes- DE- Michigan State
167- Harrison Bryant- TE- FAU
221- Kajia Lipscomb- WR- Vanderbuilt


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Decided to use TDN's draft simulator to avoid getting to cherry pick. Not all I wanted but I'd take it.

10-Jedrick Wills- OT-Alabaama
41- Kenneth Murray- LB- Oklahoma
74- Bryce Hall- CB- Virginia
90- Netane Mutani- OL- Fresno State
105- Kenny Willekes- DE- Michigan State
167- Harrison Bryant- TE- FAU
221- Kajia Lipscomb- WR- Vanderbuilt



Murray won't get out of 1st rd. I would love it if he did but ...

Willekes is no less than a 3rd rd. Pick ... JMO on both smile


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Guess I'll participate:

no trades.

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 10: Andrew Thomas, OT, Georgia (A)
Round 2 Pick 9: Antoine Winfield Jr., FS/SS, Minnesota (B+)
Round 3 Pick 10: Cole Kmet, TE, Notre Dame (A+)
Round 3 Pick 26: Willie Gay, OLB, Mississippi State (A)
Round 4 Pick 9: JR Reed, FS/SS, Georgia (A+)
Round 6 Pick 8: Joe Gaziano, DE/OLB, Northwestern (A+)
Round 7 Pick 30: Gabriel Davis, WR, Central Florida (A+)


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Alabama
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Terrell Lewis
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Alabama
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Kyle Dugger
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Lenoir-Rhyne
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Davon Hamilton
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Ohio State
105

Damien Lewis
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LSU
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Colby Parkinson
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Stanford
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Jauan Jennings
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Really interesting. You see us throwing those picks around for a good payoff. Can't wait for Draft Days. Hope we get a couple tackle upgrades.


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10 Andrew Thomas, OT Georgia

41 Antoine Winfield Jr., S Minnesota

74 Malik Harrison, LB Ohio State

90 Rashard Lawrence, IDL LSU

115 Tyler Johnson, WR Minnesota

187 Jake Hanson, IOL Oregon

244 Levonta Taylor, CB Florida State


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Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 18 (MIA): Javon Kinlaw, DT, South Carolina (A+)
Round 2 Pick 21 (PHI): Isaiah Wilson, OT, Georgia (A+)
Round 3 Pick 4 (NYJ): Antoine Winfield Jr., FS/SS, Minnesota (A+)
Round 3 Pick 10: Damon Arnette, CB, Ohio State (A+)
Round 3 Pick 13 (DEN): Netane Muti, OG/C, Fresno State (A+)
Round 3 Pick 15 (NYJ): Denzel Mims, WR, Baylor (A+)
Round 3 Pick 21 (PHI): Albert Okwuegbunam, TE, Missouri (A+)
Round 3 Pick 26: Dontavious Jackson, OLB, Florida State (A+)
Round 3 Pick 28 (BALT): Nick Harris, OG/C, Washington (A+)
Round 3 Pick 33 (HOU): Cam Akers, RB, Florida State (A+)
Round 4 Pick 5 (HOU): Malik Harrison, ILB/OLB, Ohio State (A+)
Round 4 Pick 9: Jalen Hurts, QB, Oklahoma (A+)
Round 4 Pick 14 (NYJ): Aubrey Solomon, DT, Tennessee (A+)
Round 4 Pick 21 (PHI): Saahdiq Charles, OT, LSU (A+)
Round 4 Pick 31 (DEN): Willie Gay, OLB, Mississippi State (A+)
Round 5 Pick 3 (DET): Nick Coe, DE, Auburn (A+)
Round 5 Pick 26 (DET): Jonathan Garvin, DE/OLB, Miami (A+)
Round 6 Pick 3 (DET): Josh Metellus, FS/SS, Michigan (A+)
Round 6 Pick 8: Dylan Singleton, SS/FS, Duke (A+)
Round 7 Pick 30: Shi Smith, WR, South Carolina (A+)

Your Future Picks: 
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Why does that look familiar? wink


In keeping with the signs of the times thumbsup


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Would you be pleased with Thomas? I expect he will be gone. based only on a hunch.


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Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 15 (DEN): Andrew Thomas, OT, Georgia (A+)
Round 3 Pick 3 (DET): Ashtyn Davis, FS/SS, California (A+)
Round 3 Pick 4 (NYJ): Damon Arnette, CB, Ohio State (A+)
Round 3 Pick 10: Jordan Elliott, DT, Missouri (A+)
Round 3 Pick 19 (DEN): James Lynch, DE/DT, Baylor (A+)
Round 3 Pick 25 (MINN): Nick Harris, OG/C, Washington (A+)
Round 3 Pick 26: Dontavious Jackson, OLB, Florida State (A+)
Round 3 Pick 33 (HOU): Michael Pittman, WR, USC (A+)
Round 3 Pick 40 (LAR): Brycen Hopkins, TE, Purdue (A+)
Round 3 Pick 41 (MINN): Paddy Fisher, ILB/OLB, Northwestern (A+)
Round 4 Pick 3 (DET): Zack Moss, RB, Utah (A+)
Round 4 Pick 5 (HOU): Brandon Jones, FS/SS, Texas (A+)
Round 4 Pick 6 (LAC): Yasir Durant, OT, Missouri (A+)
Round 4 Pick 9: Jalen Hurts, QB, Oklahoma (A+)
Round 4 Pick 14 (NYJ): JR Reed, FS/SS, Georgia (A+)
Round 4 Pick 25 (HOU): Davon Hamilton, DT, Ohio State (A+)
Round 6 Pick 8: Cohl Cabral, C, Arizona State (A+)

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Round 1 Pick 22 (BUF): Mekhi Becton, OT, Louisville (A+)
Round 1 Pick 28 (BALT): Grant Delpit, FS/SS, LSU (A+)
Round 3 Pick 20 (LAR): Anfernee Jennings, OLB/DE, Alabama (A+)
Round 3 Pick 21 (PHI): Jordyn Brooks, ILB, Texas Tech (A+)
Round 3 Pick 22 (BUF): Akeem Davis-Gaither, OLB, Appalachian State (A+)
Round 3 Pick 26: Leki Fotu, DT, Utah (A+)
Round 3 Pick 27 (L.V.): Logan Stenberg, OG, Kentucky (A+)
Round 3 Pick 28 (BALT): Michael Pittman, WR, USC (A+)
Round 3 Pick 40 (LAR): Albert Okwuegbunam, TE, Missouri (A+)
Round 4 Pick 9: AJ Dillon, RB, Boston College (A+)
Round 4 Pick 11 (T.B.): Jake Hanson, C/OG, Oregon (A+)
Round 4 Pick 15 (L.V.): JR Reed, FS/SS, Georgia (A+)
Round 4 Pick 37 (BALT): TJ Carter, CB, Memphis (A+)
Round 6 Pick 8: Josh Metellus, FS/SS, Michigan (A+)

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If we could move back to 15 and still get Thomas thats a steal


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Round 1 Pick 15 (DEN): Tristan Wirfs, OT, Iowa (A+)
Round 2 Pick 9: Neville Gallimore, DT, Oklahoma (A)
Round 2 Pick 14 (DEN): Zack Baun, OLB, Wisconsin (A+)
Round 3 Pick 10: Jacob Phillips, ILB/OLB, LSU (A)
Round 3 Pick 16 (L.V.): Kyle Dugger, FS/SS, Lenoir-Rhyne (A+)
Round 3 Pick 26: Kenny Willekes, DE/OLB, Michigan State (A+)
Round 3 Pick 27 (L.V.): Nick Harris, OG/C, Washington (A+)
Round 4 Pick 9: Colby Parkinson, TE, Stanford (A+)
Round 6 Pick 8: Dylan Singleton, SS/FS, Duke (A+)
Round 7 Pick 30: Lee Morris, WR, Oklahoma (A+)

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I’d really like snagging a TE like that in the mid rounds


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Round 1 Pick 21 (PHI): Mekhi Becton, OT, Louisville (A+)
Round 2 Pick 21 (PHI): Patrick Queen, ILB, LSU (A+)
Round 3 Pick 21 (PHI): Anfernee Jennings, OLB/DE, Alabama (A+)
Round 3 Pick 23 (N.E.): Kyle Dugger, FS/SS, Lenoir-Rhyne (A+)
Round 3 Pick 26: Jordan Elliott, DT, Missouri (A+)
Round 3 Pick 30 (G.B.): Joe Bachie, OLB, Michigan State (A+)
Round 3 Pick 34 (N.E.): Nick Harris, OG/C, Washington (A+)
Round 3 Pick 39 (PHI): Chase Claypool, WR, Notre Dame (A+)
Round 3 Pick 40 (LAR): Albert Okwuegbunam, TE, Missouri (A+)
Round 4 Pick 4 (NYG): Yasir Durant, OT, Missouri (A+)
Round 4 Pick 7 (CAR): Cam Akers, RB, Florida State (A+)
Round 4 Pick 9: JR Reed, FS/SS, Georgia (A+)
Round 4 Pick 14 (NYJ): Jake Hanson, C/OG, Oregon (A+)
Round 4 Pick 19 (N.E.): Mike Hampton, CB, South Florida (A+)
Round 4 Pick 20 (LAR): Larrell Murchison, DT, NC State (A+)
Round 4 Pick 21 (PHI): Khalid Kareem, DE/OLB, Notre Dame (A+)
Round 5 Pick 6 (CAR): Hamsah Nasirildeen, FS/SS, Florida State (A+)
Round 6 Pick 8: Jeffrey McCulloch, OLB, Texas (A+)
Round 7 Pick 30: Rodrigo Blankenship, K, Georgia (A+)

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Those sites are totally unrealistic... The former Browns GM's must be making the picks....


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Lol could you imagine having 20 players selected


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Watching Draft Day again and laughing at some of the details. But what a movie with a bunch of irony for fans. Just great, and the players, well, you know someone on our roster like them in real life, I suspect. Although I can also identify some of our players with the team on "The Replacements" as well.

And I love the cheerleaders more than I should share publicly.


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Lol could you imagine having 20 players selected


LOL ... Not today, but there was a time when we had like 15 rounds in the Draft. It 2as a long, long time ago.

Ernest Byner was a 10th round selection. thumbsup


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Those sites are totally unrealistic... The former Browns GM's must be making the picks....


Yes, but because it is a game, you have learn their order of ranking.

Which former GM? *L*


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10: R1P10
CB JEFF OKUDAH
OHIO STATE
41: R2P9
OT ISAIAH WILSON
GEORGIA
74: R3P10
LB MALIK HARRISON
OHIO STATE
97: R3P33
S ASHTYN DAVIS
CALIFORNIA
115: R4P9
TE THADDEUS MOSS
LSU
187: R6P8
S K'VON WALLACE
CLEMSON
244: R7P30
QB KELLY BRYANT
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Are today's pickups changing how any of you draft?


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I’d still take the best OT available unless Simmons slips


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Aside from drafting the best available OT in the first round, I would say it should be an all defensive draft. It looks as though the offensive holes are filled.


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Originally Posted By: HotBYoungTurk
Are today's pickups changing how any of you draft?


This whole thread is basically irrelevant.

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Originally Posted By: HotBYoungTurk
Are today's pickups changing how any of you draft?


This whole thread is basically irrelevant.


not really .. it is just evolving


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We still need a LT. After that I believe we should draft D.

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I know that none of you listen, but I will try this again. Drafting for need is ignorant. You draft BPA and only move off of your board by a spot or two.

The reason why that is important is that you draft to build long-term success.

Fill holes in FA and trades.

If a player is available who is ranked as your first or second BPA and is at a position of need.....you draft him. Drafting a guy just because you are weak at the position is the strategy of losers.

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Here's my latest. Could probably use another LB, but I'd be stoked with at least the first 3 picks.

Round 1 Pick 12 (L.V.): Derrick Brown, DT, Auburn (A+)
Round 1 Pick 18 (MIA): Andrew Thomas, OT, Georgia (A+)
Round 3 Pick 26: Kyle Dugger, FS/SS, Lenoir-Rhyne (A+)
Round 4 Pick 9: Willie Gay, OLB, Mississippi State (A+)
Round 6 Pick 8: Jonathan Garvin, DE, Miami (A+)
Round 7 Pick 30: Kenny Robinson, FS/SS, West Virginia (A)

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LOL if we got Brown and Thomas ... sign me up


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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