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What Trump did was not a big deal. Everything was personal on the Dems side

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Hard to argue with that data and those facts ... so of course, no-one is.


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Bernie discriminates against people based on their creed. If he gets elected, sad day for America...plus he's a socialist.


Please provide factual data for the claim that Bernie discriminates.

Also, you do understand that wanting a social democracy is not a totalitarian state such as Nazi Germany and the USSR.

How would you feel about the less fortunate receiving a free college education and better access to better healthcare? You wouldn’t see the cost of the tax increase for any of these unless you’re a billionaire, and the tax increase is only back to the Eisenhower era for those individuals.

Look at the graphs above. Please explain for Bernie or other progressive candidates are wrong. I wish for you to use factual information from reputable sources. Facts mean more to me than feelings of snake oil salesmen that wish to trick people into thinking they’ll be rich tomorrow.

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He's a troll. Looks like a banned GOPer regular with a new account.

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Google Bernie Sanders. Russell Voight

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Never been banned from here. Does Bernie Sanders work as a moderator here?

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Bernie discriminates against people based on their creed. If he gets elected, sad day for America...plus he's a socialist.


Please provide factual data for the claim that Bernie discriminates.

Also, you do understand that wanting a social democracy is not a totalitarian state such as Nazi Germany and the USSR.

How would you feel about the less fortunate receiving a free college education and better access to better healthcare? You wouldn’t see the cost of the tax increase for any of these unless you’re a billionaire, and the tax increase is only back to the Eisenhower era for those individuals.

Look at the graphs above. Please explain for Bernie or other progressive candidates are wrong. I wish for you to use factual information from reputable sources. Facts mean more to me than feelings of snake oil salesmen that wish to trick people into thinking they’ll be rich tomorrow.


Google Bernie Sanders Russell voight.

People get kicked out of schools for stating there are two genders. That is the kind of freedom liberalism offers.

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Bernie Sanders, Russell Vought. Abuse of power. Religious litmus test. Discrimination based on religious creed.

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Here's the video clip. Watch the whole thing before you judge.

https://youtu.be/VW6CTlpxUb8

So if you believe the Bible, you are UnAmerican, according to Sanders. (listen to the last thing he said} LOL If you believe that believing the Bible is unamerican, by all means vote for Bernie. You won't like what you get long term though.

Fostering the belief that Evangelical Christians are unAmerican. Wonder what that will lead to.

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Welcome to the board dagesh!


Thanks. Old Cold Dawg is trying to pull a Bernie and get me kicked off (by accusing me of being a banned past member). LOLHere's to getting banned for not following Liberal Narrative.

Nice to meet you by the way!

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He's a troll. Looks like a banned GOPer regular with a new account.


BOOGEYMAN FALLACY, lol

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Here's the video clip. Watch the whole thing before you judge.

https://youtu.be/VW6CTlpxUb8

So if you believe the Bible, you are UnAmerican, according to Sanders. (listen to the last thing he said} LOL If you believe that believing the Bible is unamerican, by all means vote for Bernie. You won't like what you get long term though.

Fostering the belief that Evangelical Christians are unAmerican. Wonder what that will lead to.


Maybe get some help with yourcomprehension skills. Bernie isnt saying what you are claiming... not even close


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Welcome to the board dagesh!


Hey Fish, this new guy is eating the Libs lunch!

Think I will relax and watch the show. thumbsup

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Here's the video clip. Watch the whole thing before you judge.

https://youtu.be/VW6CTlpxUb8

So if you believe the Bible, you are UnAmerican, according to Sanders. (listen to the last thing he said} LOL If you believe that believing the Bible is unamerican, by all means vote for Bernie. You won't like what you get long term though.

Fostering the belief that Evangelical Christians are unAmerican. Wonder what that will lead to.


Maybe get some help with yourcomprehension skills. Bernie isnt saying what you are claiming... not even close


Last thing Bernie said on video. Listen to it.

Exact quote. “This person is not someone who is what this country is supposed to be about.”

For stating what the Bible teaches, ie no salvation outside of Jesus. The Bible clearly states this

Interpretation. People who believe the Bible are not what this country is supposed to be about, and must be excluded from political office. Clear as a bell

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Here's the video clip. Watch the whole thing before you judge.

https://youtu.be/VW6CTlpxUb8

So if you believe the Bible, you are UnAmerican, according to Sanders. (listen to the last thing he said} LOL If you believe that believing the Bible is unamerican, by all means vote for Bernie. You won't like what you get long term though.

Fostering the belief that Evangelical Christians are unAmerican. Wonder what that will lead to.


Maybe get some help with yourcomprehension skills. Bernie isnt saying what you are claiming... not even close


Last thing Bernie said on video. Listen to it.

Exact quote. “This person is not someone who is what this country is supposed to be about.”

For stating what the Bible teaches, ie no salvation outside of Jesus. The Bible clearly states this

Interpretation. People who believe the Bible are not what this country is supposed to be about, and must be excluded from political office. Clear as a bell


As I said - go get some help. It's clearly too challenging for you.


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Here's the video clip. Watch the whole thing before you judge.

https://youtu.be/VW6CTlpxUb8

So if you believe the Bible, you are UnAmerican, according to Sanders. (listen to the last thing he said} LOL If you believe that believing the Bible is unamerican, by all means vote for Bernie. You won't like what you get long term though.

Fostering the belief that Evangelical Christians are unAmerican. Wonder what that will lead to.


Maybe get some help with yourcomprehension skills. Bernie isnt saying what you are claiming... not even close


Last thing Bernie said on video. Listen to it.

Exact quote. “This person is not someone who is what this country is supposed to be about.”

For stating what the Bible teaches, ie no salvation outside of Jesus. The Bible clearly states this

Interpretation. People who believe the Bible are not what this country is supposed to be about, and must be excluded from political office. Clear as a bell


As I said - go get some help. It's clearly too challenging for you.


Typical. Ad hominems when you have no argument to attack my position.

What was the STATED reason that Sanders gave for blocking Vaught? Because he wrote an article supporting Biblically a private institutions right to adhere to its statement of faith

Go read the story and inform yourself. Russell Vaught was the victim of religious discrimination by the US government

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Here's the video clip. Watch the whole thing before you judge.

https://youtu.be/VW6CTlpxUb8

So if you believe the Bible, you are UnAmerican, according to Sanders. (listen to the last thing he said} LOL If you believe that believing the Bible is unamerican, by all means vote for Bernie. You won't like what you get long term though.

Fostering the belief that Evangelical Christians are unAmerican. Wonder what that will lead to.


Maybe get some help with yourcomprehension skills. Bernie isnt saying what you are claiming... not even close


Last thing Bernie said on video. Listen to it.

Exact quote. “This person is not someone who is what this country is supposed to be about.”

For stating what the Bible teaches, ie no salvation outside of Jesus. The Bible clearly states this

Interpretation. People who believe the Bible are not what this country is supposed to be about, and must be excluded from political office. Clear as a bell


As I said - go get some help. It's clearly too challenging for you.


Typical. Ad hominems when you have no argument to attack my position.

What was the STATED reason that Sanders gave for blocking Vaught? Because he wrote an article supporting Biblically a private institutions right to adhere to its statement of faith

Go read the story and inform yourself. Russell Vaught was the victim of religious discrimination by the US government

No that's not it at all. But I could see how you could think that if you struggled to comprehend the debate that was going on. Vaught wasn't blocked for being a Christian .... it was how he carried that message to try to discriminate and be hostile and accusatory to others who were not Christian that was the issue and as a public/government official there needs to be a SEPARATION of faith and Govt ..... bottom line, clearly Vaught was not well equipped to set aside what he believes his religion says and carry out his duties without being prejudiced by his religion.


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Whatever happened to separation of church and state? Religion should have absolutely no part in government or politics.

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it was how he carried that message to try to discriminate and be hostile and accusatory to others who were not Christian that was the issue and as a public/government official there needs to be a SEPARATION of faith and Govt ..... bottom line, clearly Vaught was not well equipped to set aside what he believes his religion says and carry out his duties without being prejudiced by his religion.


Oh ye of little faith frown You really don't get it that a Christian can't just stop being a christian when they walk out the door to go to work, and start being a christian again when they get home. notallthere


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Then they should stay home.

If you ask me, I think every time somebody invokes god or Jesus in public during a debate on political issues or other logical rational adult conversation, you should be allowed to beat them with a stick. Invoking fictional characters and their rules to life... how are sane people supposed to argue against that?

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For a guy so hell bent on supporting a candidate that has lied more times about things that, for the most part, just don't matter. You sure seem afraid of Mayor Pete


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it was how he carried that message to try to discriminate and be hostile and accusatory to others who were not Christian that was the issue and as a public/government official there needs to be a SEPARATION of faith and Govt ..... bottom line, clearly Vaught was not well equipped to set aside what he believes his religion says and carry out his duties without being prejudiced by his religion.


Oh ye of little faith frown You really don't get it that a Christian can't just stop being a christian when they walk out the door to go to work, and start being a christian again when they get home. notallthere


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Everybody on this earth is bias so I guess you want everybody to quit their jobs.


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Originally Posted By: GMdawg
Everybody on this earth is bias so I guess you want everybody to quit their jobs.


No. I want them to do their job. The job they get paid for. Then go home and be religious, racist, homophobic, or anything else they desire. Once home wear a kilt and call yourself Scottish, or dress as Chewbacca for all I care. Just do what you’re paid to do and do it to the best of your ability. No matter who you’re serving.


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it was how he carried that message to try to discriminate and be hostile and accusatory to others who were not Christian that was the issue and as a public/government official there needs to be a SEPARATION of faith and Govt ..... bottom line, clearly Vaught was not well equipped to set aside what he believes his religion says and carry out his duties without being prejudiced by his religion.


Oh ye of little faith frown You really don't get it that a Christian can't just stop being a christian when they walk out the door to go to work, and start being a christian again when they get home. notallthere


Y’all stopped being Christian when you voted/support trump, so apparently you can stop when walking out the door.

Don’t push that BS around here.


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Everybody on this earth is bias so I guess you want everybody to quit their jobs.


No. I want them to do their job. The job they get paid for. Then go home and be religious, racist, homophobic, or anything else they desire. Where a kilt and call yourself Scottish for all I care. Just do what you’re paid to do and do it to the best of your ability. No matter who you’re serving.


No you just want them to do what YOU want them to do. Not what they were hired to do, or voted in to do.


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Your showing your bias Swish.


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Bias against those who hide behind their religion in order to discriminate and make dumbass judgements?

Yea, I’m definitely biased.


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“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”

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it was how he carried that message to try to discriminate and be hostile and accusatory to others who were not Christian that was the issue and as a public/government official there needs to be a SEPARATION of faith and Govt ..... bottom line, clearly Vaught was not well equipped to set aside what he believes his religion says and carry out his duties without being prejudiced by his religion.


Oh ye of little faith frown You really don't get it that a Christian can't just stop being a christian when they walk out the door to go to work, and start being a christian again when they get home. notallthere


Is Christianity a personal thing - is it about the individual's personal relationship with Christ and God? Or do they need to go online and post about how others of different faith are godless / have a deficient theology / and that anyone not a Christian stands condemned?

I mean do they need to walk down the street preaching this out? Do they cast stones at sinners and others of different faith?

No ... I don't think so.

And when you have a person running for public office who HAS made this sort of proclamation publicly. Yeah - I don't want them in office. Thanks.


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Then they should stay home.

If you ask me, I think every time somebody invokes god or Jesus in public during a debate on political issues or other logical rational adult conversation, you should be allowed to beat them with a stick. Invoking fictional characters and their rules to life... how are sane people supposed to argue against that?


I'm an atheist and this is just stupid talk. Comments like this make non-religious people look bad.

Do better.


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Is Christianity a personal thing


Yes it is.

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is it about the individual's personal relationship with Christ and God


Yes it is

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do they need to go online and post about how others of different faith are godless / have a deficient theology


Some believe so, some don't. But either way they shouldn't be expected to lie about it if asked.

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I mean do they need to walk down the street preaching this out


Once again I don't but some do.

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Do they cast stones at sinners and others of different faith


Cast stones no, talk about their faith yes.

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And when you have a person running for public office who HAS made this sort of proclamation publicly. Yeah - I don't want them in office. Thanks.


So I refer back to what I said to Portland. It boils down to you don't want them to have the job because they won't do what YOU want them to do. It's ok to admit that.


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Then they should stay home.

If you ask me, I think every time somebody invokes god or Jesus in public during a debate on political issues or other logical rational adult conversation, you should be allowed to beat them with a stick. Invoking fictional characters and their rules to life... how are sane people supposed to argue against that?


I'm an atheist and this is just stupid talk. Comments like this make non-religious people look bad.

Do better.


Nope. When dealing with silly, you have to be silly. Feel free to substitute silly with a more fitting word.

Obviously I don't hold those beliefs as I'm sure you have seen me say hundreds of times that I do not hold anyone's religion against them. But I do stand up when the religious try to impose their religion on me or others that don't want anything to do with it.

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Bias against Religions


All religion? or only organized religion?


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