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Yes, telling a religion with millions of believers they are all doomed to hell doesn't sound degrading at all!

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They do not know God because they have rejected Jesus Christ his Son, and they stand condemned.


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Btw, every Moslem in government adheres to a religion that says I and all Christians are condemned before God (shirk), for saying Jesus is God’s Son

Am I freaking out? No. Because I am not so biased as to think that they’re religious views would of necessity cause them to break the Law or fail to do their job impartially

To prejudge a persons ability to do that kind of job fairly based on religious beliefs is BIGOTRY

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Yes, telling a religion with millions of believers they are all doomed to hell doesn't sound degrading at all!

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They do not know God because they have rejected Jesus Christ his Son, and they stand condemned.


You do realize that Islam condemns Christians (shirk) for believing God has a Son

Vaughn’s point was that Moslems and Christians do not worship the same God, and it was made in context of defending a statement of faith

Read the whole post next time

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He said they were all condemned. I know that's not a convenient thing for you to admit.


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All who reject Jesus are condemned. I know that’s inconvenient for you

Also in Islam, all who believe Jesus is Gods Son are condemned, same thing. It’s called shirk

The Quran teaches all Christians who believe Jesus is Gods Son are condemned. So if the Muslims in government believe their Quran, they believe all Christians are condemned

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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
He said they were all condemned. I know that's not a convenient thing for you to admit.


What part of all men are ALREADY condemned do you not understand. You, me, Trump, Sanders, Vaught, Mother Teresa, EVERYONE is condemned apart from Christ

If my grandson rejects Christ, he will be condemned. It’s not limited to one group of people. All are condemned already, and need pardon.

There’s no discrimination if it’s true of everyone. So Vaught discriminated against no one.

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Originally Posted By: dagesh
All who reject Jesus are condemned. I know that’s inconvenient for you


Let me translate for others who may be having trouble understanding what it is you're saying.....

"If you don't believe the way I do you're going to hell!"

I am a Christian myself. People like you and Vought give the rest of us a bad name.


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I realize that liberals think that two contrary and contradictory propositions can both be correct, but logical people believe in the Law of non contradiction

Christians say God has a Son, and you must recognize that or you are condemned

Moslems say God has no Son, and to say He has a Son is shirk, and condemned

Conclusion. They do not worship the same God


Vaught was refuting the person who said they worship the same God

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Gotta love religion. Just look at this conversation. IF YOU DONT BELIEVE YOURE ALL CONDEMNED. *lightning strike*

If fear is the primary tool to convert, then there’s no question as to why people are becoming less religious as society goes on.

Dagesh over here sounding like the mom from Carrie.



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All who reject Jesus are condemned. I know that’s inconvenient for you


Let me translate for others who may be having trouble understanding what it is you're saying.....

"If you don't believe the way I do you're going to hell!"

I am a Christian myself. People like you and Vought give the rest of us a bad name.


No, it is if you do not believe in Christ you are condemned. If you were a biblical Christian, you would know that

What kind of Christian thinks those who deny That God has a Son are not condemned? Not a Biblical Christian

Have you ever read 1 John 2:22? Read it sometime

If you don’t believe the Bible, what is your Christianity based on?

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Christians say God has a Son, and you must recognize that or you are condemned


The Jews believe that the son of god has not yet returned. The Jews are God's chosen people. According to you they must be condemned and don't believe in the same God.


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Unlike Pitdawg, I am a biblical Christian. Read 1 John 2:22

Anyone who denies what 1 John 2:22 says does not believe the Bible. And what does a Christian who does not believe the Bible bass his Christianity on. That’s what I want to know

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Originally Posted By: dagesh
If you don’t believe the Bible, what is your Christianity based on?


Mine?

Judge ye not. Let he who be without sin cast the first stone. Those must be scriptures you missed.


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The fact that y’all can’t even agree on the interpretation of the same freaking bible let’s me know that either God was completely wasted when he wrote it, or he didn’t write it.

A perfect god wouldn’t leave such a text open to interpretation. A philosopher would, though.


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The Jews are God’s people. They will come to the knowledge of Jesus and many have. But Jesus said to those who did not believe in Him, unless you believe that I Am He, you will die in your sins

John 8:24

So no, you don’t believe in the same God or Jesus as me. You believe in another God, another Jesus, another Gospel, that is not in the Bible

You have made God in your own image

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It lets me know he hasn’t read it. The Bible is clear. What 1 John 2:22 says is unmistakably clear. Read it and tell me what it says

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Read 1 John 2:22and tell me

A. What it says. ( it is clear)

B why Pitdawg doesn’t believe it

I base my Christianity on Gods Word. What Pit bases his on, I do not know

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The Jews are God’s people. They will come to the knowledge of Jesus and many have. But Jesus said to those who did not believe in Him, unless you believe that I Am He, you will die in your sins


So you agree that even God's chosen people who do not believe Jesus died for our sins and was resurrected will burn in hell. Thanks!

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So no, you don’t believe in the same God or Jesus as me. You believe in another God, another Jesus, another Gospel, that is not in the Bible.


Your human judgement is what is wrong with Christianity. You are a stain on your own religion.


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All Christians who believe the Bible believe what 1 John 2:22 says. What it says is clear, and agrees with what Vaught said. But Christian Pit calls it hate speech. Go figure...

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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
Originally Posted By: dagesh
The Jews are God’s people. They will come to the knowledge of Jesus and many have. But Jesus said to those who did not believe in Him, unless you believe that I Am He, you will die in your sins


So you agree that even God's chosen people who do not believe Jesus died for our sins and was resurrected will burn in hell. Thanks!

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So no, you don’t believe in the same God or Jesus as me. You believe in another God, another Jesus, another Gospel, that is not in the Bible.





Your human judgement is what is wrong with Christianity. You are a stain on your own religion.


Do you deny that the Bible is the Word of God? If not, read 1 John 2:22 and John 8:24. Thank you. Human judgement has nothing to do with it

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Reading this ridiculously stupid back-n-forth.....



At DT, context and meaning are a scarecrow kicking at moving goalposts.
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Correction. 1 John 2:23

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Are you a Christian?

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Are you a Christian?


I'm a MemphisBrownie.


At DT, context and meaning are a scarecrow kicking at moving goalposts.
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1 John 5:10-12. He who does not believe God makes Him a liar, because he does not believe the testimony God has given concerning His SON. And this is the testimony that God has given us eternal life and this life is in His Son. He who has the Son has life. He who does not have the Son has not life.

All Christians believe this...

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I’ll take that as a no. So of course this is silly to you because the Gospel is foolishness to you. But to we who believe it is the Power of God and the Wisdom of God

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1,John 5:12 Pitdawg. Read it.

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thats right, Pit!!

REPENT!! REPENT FOR ALL OF YOUR TRANSGRESSIONS!


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They actually invoked keeping religion and government separate from each other. Giving everyone the freedom to follow or not follow any religion they so chose to follow.

Not inflict one religious teaching into our laws in order to force their beliefs on the entire nation.


Yet you support unbelivers right to force belivers to follow their rules. Thats just crazy bro.


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That's the world we live in now. Only your religion counts. Everyone else is going to hell. I mean that's what Vought said about Muslims.


So do you agree with Muslims who think all Christians are going to hell?


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Gotta love religion. Just look at this conversation. IF YOU DONT BELIEVE YOURE ALL CONDEMNED. *lightning strike*


Honest question bro. If you don't believe why do you care? If you don't believe in heaven or hell and somebody says your going to hell why does it matter?


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Christians say God has a Son, and you must recognize that or you are condemned


The Jews believe that the son of god has not yet returned. The Jews are God's chosen people. According to you they must be condemned and don't believe in the same God.


The jews also killed Jesus.


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Gotta love religion. Just look at this conversation. IF YOU DONT BELIEVE YOURE ALL CONDEMNED. *lightning strike*


Honest question bro. If you don't believe why do you care? If you don't believe in heaven or hell and somebody says your going to hell why does it matter?


because the same people pushing that BS are the same people who try to push their religious beliefs through government policy.

which means that potentially affects me, but more specifically my wife and daughters.

im seriously am looking to move out of ohio. its become so far right that the losers in government have been trying to pass policies for procedures that dont even freaking exist. thats absolutely deplorable.

religious nutbags are always using their religion as a reason/justification to discriminate and/or seize control, masking it by calling it pro-life and pro-growth policies.

yall preach that dumbass prosperity BS and everything has turned rotten because of it.

if yall kept your crap ass beliefs inside yall stankin ass houses, churchs, mosque's, etc, then i WOULDNT care. but unfortunately, we dont live in such a country.


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because the same people pushing that BS are the same people who try to push their religious beliefs through government policy.


I agree 110 percent bro I really do.

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which means that potentially affects me, but more specifically my wife and daughters.


Oh Holy cow we can agree again. People who don't agree with abortion feel the same way, yet you want to bash them for feeling that way notallthere

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religious nutbags are always using their religion as a reason/justification to discriminate and/or seize control, masking it by calling it pro-life and pro-growth policies.


See I agree with you, However when you do the same thing (which you do) using your beliefs to discrimiate against Christians, and act like that's OK you are no better than them.

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if yall kept your crap ass beliefs inside yall stankin ass houses, churchs, mosque's, etc, then i WOULDNT care. but unfortunately, we dont live in such a country.


Yet when the same thing is said about you then you freak out


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you agree but still dont get the point.

our government is secular, but we also make policies that doesn't trample on your beliefs.

the government making abortion legal doesnt affect you AT ALL. if you and your wife decide to be a pro-life household, YOU CAN.

so how does that trample on your beliefs? it doesn't.

the government allowing LBGT to marry doesnt affect your beliefs AT ALL. if you want to marry a woman, guess what? you CAN. allowing them to marry doesnt affect your religious beliefs in any way shape or form.

pro-choice policies doesnt change how you practice religion. LBGT rights doesnt affect how you practice your religion. and the last time i checked, the government even agreed with yall on not baking gay people cakes and all that, so you got ANOTHER win.

but since you cant refute any of that with facts, only feelings, go ahead and tell me how the current war against saying merry christmas and happy thanksgiving is going.


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the government making abortion legal doesnt affect you AT ALL. if you and your wife decide to be a pro-life household, YOU CAN.


WOW you couldnt be more wrong about that. My wife and I along with our kids morn the loss of the babies who have been slaughtered. Let me ask you an honest question and I really believe you will give me an honest answer. Do you believe that people have the right to morn the loss of their babies?


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because the same people pushing that BS are the same people who try to push their religious beliefs through government policy.



Yet you believe your right to push your beliefs on others is OK. Put meet kettle.


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WOW you couldnt be more wrong about that. My wife and I along with our kids morn the loss of the babies who have been slaughtered.


well thats on you. i for one dont lose any sleep over the issue, and will continue not to.

again, if you want to be anti abortion in your own home, fine. dont get one. beyond that, mind your own business.


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again, if you want to be anti abortion in your own home, fine. dont get one. beyond that, mind your own business.


That sounds like what many had said about legalizing Gay marriage.
Hmmmmmmmm.

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Yes.

And now they can get married, and you can mind your own business.


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