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You think they're gonna let us vote?


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Go Yankees, Go Yankees!!!!!




I can handle LeBron pulling for the Yankees much easier than you doing it.

If I'm still alive in 40 years, I'll pull for the Reds.


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When have I ever smacked against your team? Or atleast tried to?

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Please beat the Yankees so we can rub it in jealous Reds' fans faces.

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Thought this was a decent fan letter posted in today's PD:

This is an open letter to Indians manager Eric Wedge:

Many years ago, former major-league manager Sparky Anderson was quoted as saying that players play the game and that the managers can affect the outcome or make a difference in approximately half-a-dozen games per year. One of those times occurred in the seventh game of the World Series in 1997 when Mike Hargrove decided to bring Jose Mesa in to close the game against the Florida Marlins. He did this despite Mesa's struggles for the last month of the season and despite Brian Anderson and Mike Jackson blowing the Marlins away leading up to the ninth. His obsession with the idea of having a closer finish the game cost the Indians the World Series.

Yes, this was one of those times when the manager affected the outcome of the game that was the most costly defeat in the history of the Indians. There is absolutely no doubt it was his decision. For that, we will never forgive him. He hurt me, my family and millions of fans.

Now you, Eric, have the opportunity to bring home the world championship of baseball to Cleveland.

Joe Borowski has been struggling. In fact, even though he has saved numerous games this year, his earned-run average is astronomical. His losses exceed his victories and he has been quite ineffective as of late. For you to say that we would have not won the division without Borowski is nonsense. There are no other effective closers in baseball with his miserable statistics. If you believe for a minute that your setup men such as Rafael Betancourt and Rafael Perez cannot close out a game, you are sorely mistaken.

Your statements demonstrate a complete lack of confidence in these two pitchers. They have proven their worth to this team on a daily basis. I know kids in high school baseball who can throw as hard as Borowski. Joe does not even reach 90 mph on the radar gun.

Please do not be so obsessed with the closer role as to cost the Indians another World Series. If your setup men are blowing away the opposition, please leave them in to finish the game. You do not want to make the same mistake as Hargrove. He may be an awesome guy, but he is responsible for Game 7 against Florida. You do not want to follow in his footsteps and disappoint millions of fans who live and breathe Indians baseball.

I am more than 50 years old and would like to see a championship in my lifetime before God calls me home.

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I am Lee Kravitz, in a different body,....

The words ring true,...

Just ask Trevor Hoffman, or better, Buddy Black.

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If your setup men are blowing away the opposition, please leave them in to finish the game.




How many times have we said that in the Series Threads all year?

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After this series, I will hope for whoever wins it.
Hoping for the Cubs in the NL.


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After this series, I will hope for whoever wins it.
Hoping for the Cubs in the NL.




Cubs vs Indians would be great.


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Why in the world do we have to play a 5 game playoff series? That is easily the stupidest thing Baseball has done in my memory. I don't really have a problem with having wildcards, but a 5 game series is BS. The thing I like about baseball is the best team wins almost every time. That is because baseball is a marathon. The 5 game series rewards wildcard teams and hurts divisions winners.
Yankees can afford to throw thier best pitchers at us for 3 games. We can't if we want to win the world series. Give you a pretty crappy choice......win now an ruin you pitchers for the next 7 GAME series, or play it for the long haul and lose cause the other team pitches thier best ace say 2 starts and 5 innings in the 3rd game as relief.
(remember the BoSox series and Pedro? Man that sucked.) (and they ended up losing in the ALCS.)

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Can't say I disagree,...but what is your converse,...??

I almost think I liked it a lot better when I was a kid (the 60's),...2 leagues, 2 pennants, 2 teams, One Series.

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Sabathia matures into true ace

Sabathia was determined to do his part to keep his team ahead.


By ANDY CALL
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CLEVELAND

This was a pitch C.C. Sabathia really needed.

The Indians led Baltimore on May 6 at Camden Yards, but the Orioles loaded the bases with one out in the sixth inning. Veteran first baseman Kevin Millar was at the plate with the count full.

Sabathia was determined to do his part to keep his team ahead. So, with all the strength Cleveland’s left-hander could muster from his 6-foot-7, 295-pound frame, Sabathia leaned back and fired ... a changeup.

The pitch fluttered in at 84 mph. Millar waved weakly at the ball. Sabathia walked calmly from the mound, a man at peace with having won a battle in perhaps a less manly way than simply hurtling another 95-mph heater.

“Earlier in my career, I would have thrown a fastball,” Sabathia said. “No doubt.”

This is how C.C. Sabathia has changed since his rookie year of 2001. This is how he has led his team to the playoffs and stated his case for the Cy Young Award.

He’s no longer a thrower. He’s a pitcher.

‘A TRUE NO. 1’

“C.C. is a true No. 1,” Indians Manager Eric Wedge said. “It’s a different atmosphere at the ballpark when he’s pitching.”

“Right now, if you had to pick one guy to win a game, he might be the guy,” Kansas City Manager Buddy Bell said.

Sabathia was a 20-year-old kid when he made the team out of spring training. Now he’s 27, a clubhouse leader and a player who has earned an opportunity to pitch in October because his maturity as a pitcher has mirrored his maturity as a man.

“The way C.C. handles himself impresses the heck out of you,” Wedge said.

They say the numbers don’t lie, but some of Sabathia’s numbers might seem too good to be true.

Sabathia (19-7) led the American League in innings pitched (241) and was among the leaders in strikeouts (209) and ERA (3.21). He walked only 37 batters and his strikeout-to-walks ratio (5.65 to 1) was the best of any left-hander in history outside of Randy Johnson in 2004 (6.59 to 1). He would have broken the 20-win barrier weeks ago had he enjoyed even modest run support.

He strung together 10 consecutive starts in which he allowed two runs or fewer, a feat duplicated by only five others in the last five years.

“When I think of C.C., I think of dependability,” Wedge said. “There are points in the season you need your No. 1 to step up. He’s done that, time and time again.”

STREAK STOPPER

Perhaps no time was a better time to step up than Sept. 8. The Indians lost the first two games of a critical series in Anaheim and references to the team’s 2005 collapse were being dropped. Sabathia took the mound and worked a complete-game, five-hit, 6-1 victory. Cleveland won the next game as well to earn a series split, and the Tribe was well on its way to its first division championship since 2001.

“C.C. has stepped it up in every way,” Indians closer Joe Borowski said. “If the bullpen needs a rest, he’ll go out there and throw eight or nine innings. If we’re coming off a two- or three-game losing streak, he’ll go out there and give us the best opportunity to get a win.”

Sabathia’s 209 strikeouts were the most by an Indians left-hander since Sam McDowell fanned 304 in 1970. The last pitcher to throw as many innings was Charles Nagy (227) in 1997.

He’s beaten Johan Santana three times this season and Justin Verlander twice. He’s 9-4 when pitching after a loss.

“He’s at the top of every category,” General Manager Mark Shapiro said. “I can’t imagine where our team would be without him.”

‘THE POSTER CHILD’

Those who have seen Sabathia interact with his family — wife Amber, son Carsten Charles III (‘Little C’), 4, and daughter Jaeden, 2 — can’t imagine he was once a young man who, perhaps, needed to grow up a little. Early in his career, Sabathia admits, he made bad choices in the company he kept off the field and the way he dealt with his emotions on it.

“The guys in this clubhouse will tell you I still act like a 17-year-old sometimes,” Sabathia said. “But on the field, being able to control my emotions has been the biggest thing.”

Sabathia no longer loses focus when teammates commit errors or perfectly good pitches end up flying over the fence. He gave up golf to avoid injuries. He committed to an offseason conditioning program. He listened to pitching coach Carl Willis and others who advised him to make offspeed pitches a more effective and frequent part of his arsenal.

“To learn to focus on things you can control is a hard, hard thing to accomplish,” Willis said. “C.C. has been the poster child.”

Sabathia has refined his changeup to the point it has become almost a signature pitch. The delivery appears nearly identical to that of his fastball, provoking guesswork in the mind of the hitter — a split-second of hesitation that can make the difference between a hit or a strikeout.

“C.C. has been in the league a long time, but he’s still only 27 years old,” Willis said. “To have that kind of confidence in all your pitches at that age is a rare thing.”

‘HE’S A MAN’

Less experienced Indian pitchers now look to Sabathia for guidance in his approach to pitching and to life. He has won friends in the clubhouse by never complaining publicly about the paltry run support often provided him.

“He’ll go out there for seven or eight games in a row and get only a run of support, and he’ll never complain,” Borowski said.

“Everybody’s looking for leadership,” Wedge said. “C.C. handles it now better than ever. That goes a long way. He’s a great teammate.”

Sabathia’s three All-Star Game appearances, his willingness to speak out on issues such as the lack of blacks in baseball and his climbing professional profile have gained notice in places outside of Cleveland.

“He’s very mature for his age,” said Kansas City’s Bell, a coach with the Indians from 2003-05. “He’s tough. He’s a great teammate. He’s a competitor. I think that got in his way in the past, but he’s matured a lot. He’s a man. I’m happy for him.”

What’s in the future for Sabathia? Certainly a huge contract, as he can declare free agency following the 2008 season. In the short term, his goals are more defined.

“I want to pitch in the postseason, and I want to win a championship,” Sabathia said. “I feel fine. I’m ready to pitch another month.”

Reach Repository sports writer Andy Call at (330) 580-8346 or e-mail: andy.call@cantonrep.com

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can we have Jules baned until after the playoffs?




No....cause then we can't say Na Na Poo Poo in the end.

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I can't wait for tomorrow! Go Yanks!!!

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I don't know ... if the Yankees respond to Jules' support like the Reds did ... maybe we want her pulling for the Yankees.

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What's that supposed to mean? There isn't an Indians fan on this board that has rooted for the Reds to lose a playoff series in over 10 years....


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Ah, but I know exactly what you would do.


Carry on Tribers, I'll check back in throughout the series.

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Actually I would probably joke about it but I would root for the Reds because I have no real feelings toward any other NL team and I consider you a good friend and would want you to be happy and see your team win. But that's just me.


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Oh, the guilt thing. LOL. I don't believe that for a minute. You guys bash the Reds at EVERY opportunity and would continue to do so. I never cared about the Indians until I came on these boards and had to deal with their fans. I'll never root for them because their fans are......darn, can't say it.

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I'll never root for them because their fans are......darn, can't say it.




What? So much like Buckeye fans?


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So much like Reds fans?

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Oh, the guilt thing. LOL. I don't believe that for a minute. You guys bash the Reds at EVERY opportunity and would continue to do so. I never cared about the Indians until I came on these boards and had to deal with their fans. I'll never root for them because their fans are......darn, can't say it.





Jules, its the same thing I have to deal with when it comes to Buckey fans.

Im sure there are a lot of idiot Tribe fans on here, just as there are a lot of idiot OSU fans. But not every Tribe fan on here comes in your Reds threads and bashes the Reds ( I know I dont), just as you pointed out to me before, not every OSU fan on here is the same. I have been pretty good on these boards when it comes to OSU lately, letting the idiots do what they do best.

You should try the same approach to the Tribe fans that annoy you and let us good natured Tribe fans not have to deal with you posting Yankees pics in threads.

Let the idiots be.


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So much like Reds fans?



Still rooting in October?


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You should try the same approach to the Tribe fans that annoy you and let us good natured Tribe fans not have to deal with you posting Yankees pics in threads.






Not a problem. I'll stay off the threads.

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Oh, stop it. That's a classic "female ruse" to get guys feeling guilty about stupid things we say.
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Works on me too.. but then I have to live with my wife... this is Jules, she just needs to stop whining...


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I heard that Jules went out and Bought an Indians hat, and she has been wearing it everyday


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From Ryan Garko's Blog on www.indians.com:

October 02, 2007
Second season starts now

Driving into the ballpark today, it started to sink in that it’s about to be here and we’ve got a lot to play for. As soon as that last game on Sunday finished up, the season was over and everything was in the books. It was nice having that day off Monday to think about what we accomplished that we’re proud of and what we want to do better. But the regular season is over. That door is shut. This is a second season for us now.

During the off-day, I moved out of my apartment downtown, because our lease ended on the first of the month. So Josh Barfield and I moved out and I moved into a hotel and took care of all that stuff. Then I went to “WWE Raw” with Travis Hafner and his wife and [video operator] Bill McCracken. Everywhere Travis goes, people know him. They took him up and interviewed him in the ring during the show. They were talking about the series and stuff and then they put a camera on us. A lot of people were coming down and saying hi.

I’ll tell you what … going to that event was fun for two reasons, just relating it to baseball. No. 1, a ton of Indians fans were there. It was cool to go out and just talk to people and realize how this city is really behind this team and really pulling for us. The other cool part was just sitting at an event like that and being a fan. When you’re out on the field, sometimes you lose sight of how fun it is and what it’s like to just be a fan and enjoy it. I think this is going to be really fun for the City of Cleveland. I was just sitting there all caught up in Triple H fighting Vince McMahon and stuff. And that’s just entertainment. This is an actual sport. So it will be fun.

I’m looking forward to getting back on the field Thursday. Three days off is almost like an All-Star break. We never get days off like this. I’m just treating it like a game day where I’m not playing. I just went through my normal routine in the cage with [hitting coach] Derek Shelton. Then we’ll go out and take batting practice, like we normally do before a game. But instead of going out and playing afterward, I’ll just go home. Personally, I think these workout days are pretty important, just to watch a lot of film of the opposing pitchers and make sure my swing is where I want it to be so I’ll be ready for Thursday.


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Well if the glee club isn't going to be there, then it is one gigantic waste of my time..


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Well if the glee club isn't going to be there, then it is one gigantic waste of my time..




I don't watch the glee club anymore ... it's full of undesirable elements.

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Well if the glee club isn't going to be there, then it is one gigantic waste of my time..




I don't watch the glee club anymore ... it's full of undesirable elements.




The last thing I get out of a glee club is, well, "glee". Same with mimes. hmmm...Can mimes form a glee club?


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You guys bash the Reds at EVERY opportunity and would continue to do so.




BTW..

Reds Suck.

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Greenberg...LMAO...Mike & Mike...The Grady Mike tried to pull a fast one this morning...His STATS...

Sabathia is 1-7 against the Spankees...BFD...

Golic says...When was the last time he pitched against them???...Golic says I KNOW...It's right here in front of me...And it's right there in front of YOU...You just chose to bypass that line...LMAO...

When WAS the last time Sabathia faced the Spanks???

2004...TWO THOUSAND FOUR!!!!!!!!!!

That's 3 years ago...

I think it's safe to say Grady can stick his 1-7 STAT...lol...

The dude hadn't even come into his own yet...


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That was great, Golic called him out and lamblasted him for a minute on it. Greenberg does that stuff all the time, glad he was called out for once.

Who's heading to the game today? Anyone catching drinks downtown beforehand?

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i don't mind the reds, if the tribe weren't in the playoffs, and the reds were, i would totally root for them

it's not like they're the bungles or anything

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